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02-02-2010 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SaM StarK
Thats what the "(which you dont") was meant for. People are not going to limp/raise light at the micros so doing this with the top of your range is exactly the same as playing your cards face up.
So wat? Most spewtards at the micros play their cards face up regularly. Plus by using this thought process it makes me think I should limp/raise light because you will fold thinking I have aces, no?
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02-02-2010 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Webernaut
Wat? I hate hearing that.
Whatever. It's still true. And also useful to remember IMO in this forum, since 95% of beginners overplay AA even if they are fairly good at the rest of the game.
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02-02-2010 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Webernaut
I am saying that the thought process of "limp reraise means aces" is exploitable.
Correct, but not especially relevant to the point of this thread.
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02-02-2010 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Webernaut
So wat? Most spewtards at the micros play their cards face up regularly. Plus by using this thought process it makes me think I should limp/raise light because you will fold thinking I have aces, no?
It is not so simple as that. You might still get setmined in position or it may even work one time, but if you try doing this several times, most thinking players will realize what you are doing. You will be unconsciously balancing your limp/raise range by doing this light. Now ask yourself if this is a good thing to do at the micros...

What you are saying is exactly the same as saying that shoving ATC as a 4bet is unexploitable because everyone at the micros will think that you have AA. It may work one time but it becomes very transparent once you try it a few times.

I don't see whats the big deal with just raising your AA normally instead of trying to be tricky and playing your hand in such a transparent way that becomes laughable.
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02-02-2010 , 03:26 PM
Is there any merit to limp raising a hand like Ax suited in a live full ring game? You got the Ace blocker, and since 90% of the time when people do this play it means KK/AA, I think you can represent a monster by doing this. And then next time you pickup AA and limp re-raise, people won't believe you and will give you more action.
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02-02-2010 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AirborneSapper9845
In a cash game this is usually a bad play, but I love doing this in tournaments, especially in mid and late mid stages where people are trying to steal weak and dead money and short stacks are shoving with a real open range.
I completely agree with this statement in tourneys you will more often get the rereaise... however in late game scenario's i think it is more obv. if you limp that you have a monster... more a fan of early on limp when many donk's are still in tourney (therefore limp's are common) when it wont expose you as trying to make a move... also love the Limp w AA in rush poker 6max b/c someone always seems to raise/call 3-bet shove
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02-02-2010 , 04:14 PM
Let's not talk about Rush Poker lolz

I guess I am not quite grasping that this play is "transparent".

Let's say we limp/raise with garbage, get called, the caller is probably putting us on KK or AA, for sake of the thread AA, which means they're trying to beat exactly AA which means a simple cbet would do the job if they miss. It's the same action that would happen if we actually had AA if they hit, they raise the cbet, if they miss they fold.

FTR I am not condoning this play nor do I think I have ever done this in a cash game just stating that it might be an idea to play around with every so often.
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