7 handed pub mtt. $30 mtt. I have 38000 chips. blinds 2000/4000. re-entry period is over.

call,call, fold, Hero has A9o. Hero? UTG limper has over 100000 and Is fairly loose.

always all in. Against how weak people tend to play in tournaments like that, you should actually be shoving significantly wider than this.

That's a eye opener to me. Would you also be shoving QKo or even T9s?

38,000 sounds like a lot, but it isn't. If you want to place high you're going to need to gamble it up.

Reads? Stacks? I mean it should be a jam but in a pub MTT you will routinely see people limp-call stuff that dominates you here

This, theoretically you want to shove but you need to think about what range are these guys limping with, and what they do vs a shove.
Some times ago I shoved pre with QQ in a live donkament over two limps, they called with KK and AA lol.

Tell me you won the hand.

Who me? of course not.
The KK guy won, and the AA dude being kinda result oriented got mad with him saying that he should have folded as he was last to act and closed the action.

with around 10bb, against a unraised pot, assuming decent reads on the players so you can feel confident that open limper is not tricky enough to trap with a big pair, this is a shove. AT+ should be an open raise or a raise from the previous two players, so you are usually flipping against a weak pair, or 60\40 against some broadway cards, if you even get called.

Reads, distance to bubble (or pay jumps if already ITM), and stack sizes matter.

It's always a shove. The possibility of your opponent trapping isn't a reason not to shove. That's a tiny part of the limpers range. If you start folding when short stacked because a limper in the hand could be trapping you'll making a ton of mistakes in the push/fold stage of tournies.

In these sorts of games, it's not the opponent trapping, it's a combination of the opponent being so bad they don't know what they're doing, playing in such a different way to 2+2 groupthink, etc etc

UTG had 77 and limped in. still 3 tables of 6-7 players left so 19 players left. Top 5 pay.

I noticed one of the players who's had results and one of the others said she's a good player was shoving 77 20BB deep and she got knocked out due to being up against 99 and couldn't improve. she had shoved 2-3 hands when she was under 20BBs pre this hand. Maybe that's why she get results becauses shes shoving correctly.

In the end I would of at least doubled up perhaps tripled up if I shoved the A9. the player on my left would of called and the player UTG may have called with 77 but he did fold after the player to my left called with his 77 and a player in the blind raised to 30,000 with KTs. Player to my left was always going to call a 38,000 bet since he was talking to me and was drunk and saying he needs to get lucky with pairs like he did the other night to win the mtt. Whether the blind comes along and perhaps UTG would as well is unknown.

UTG calls with a lot of hands rather than raises. I actually don't recall him opening or 3-4 or more betting pre. Player to my left had less than 30000 and called with 77 and then called BBs 30000 raise putting him all in.