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3ko vs button defence: is this too light if you make your king? 3ko vs button defence: is this too light if you make your king?

05-17-2016 , 12:41 AM
yeah as title suggest, I'm trying to adjust my starting standards/ continuation when I'm heads up, either from the blinds or from the button V blinds. I had a spot last night where I thought I'd jump around a bit. I went 3ko, which well yeah it is what it is, probably the bottom qautile of every hand you can be dealt; so my question is this: once you are heads up verse the blinds, what kind of range can you play and get good equity to continue on; just how far down the ladder of the 170 odd hands you can be dealt can you feasibly go
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05-17-2016 , 11:27 AM
k3o is right in the middle of hand rankings. caro ranks it #90 out of 170.
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05-17-2016 , 03:41 PM
Easy fold on the button. If it's BvB, and a 3x open, K3o is right at the bottom of ranges for opening or calling. I usually fold it. I'd usually rather play 53o or 93s. (Or indeed anything suited). A lot depends on stack sizes though. In a tourney with short stacks, the high card value of the king is more important than the multi-street playability of hands like 73s.
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05-17-2016 , 03:47 PM
caro ranks 9-3s at 125 and 53o at 156
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05-17-2016 , 03:50 PM
but for playing against only a few players specifically he ranks

K3o @ #76.
93s @ #125
53o @ #163

his reasoning is that when it is just a few players then having a high rank is very important
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05-17-2016 , 03:56 PM
Caro is crap at poker.
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05-17-2016 , 04:02 PM
I usually raise K3 from the button in an an opened pot if the following is true
1 blinds do not call more then 30%
2 they will call down with a weak range if it hit TP+
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05-19-2016 , 07:04 AM
So if blinds are nits it's solid but if they're regs you could be in trouble.

Grumpy I have a question for you then; suppose one of those 30 percent guys calls and the flop hits a KING. What do you do now?
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05-19-2016 , 07:06 AM
I mean, I guess my question really is, if I could take the wider principle, is:

in a full ring cash game, once it comes down to two players, is it correct to dramatically adjust the opening and defening ranges to a point that would be absurd otherwise; much the same way you'd play in heads up, for instance (and of course, holding all other factors; player types etc constant)
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05-19-2016 , 08:26 AM
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Grumpy I have a question for you then; suppose one of those 30 percent guys calls and the flop hits a KING. What do you do now?
Bet for value.
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05-19-2016 , 08:43 AM
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in a full ring cash game, once it comes down to two players, is it correct to dramatically adjust the opening and defening ranges to a point that would be absurd otherwise; much the same way you'd play in heads up, for instance
You should open less frequently from the SB vs the BB at a full table than you would if you were opening from the SB heads up. This is because of card clumping and the fact that you will suffer a positional disadvantage throughout the hand.

Generally you can open pretty liberally blind vs blind, although against very loose opponents I will frequently just limp and vs very aggressive opponents I will fold more.
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05-19-2016 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Caro is crap at poker.
Most of Caro's concepts were obsolete 10 years ago.
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05-19-2016 , 01:09 PM
That's not even close to being true.
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05-19-2016 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Anton111
I mean, I guess my question really is, if I could take the wider principle, is:

in a full ring cash game, once it comes down to two players, is it correct to dramatically adjust the opening and defening ranges to a point that would be absurd otherwise; much the same way you'd play in heads up, for instance (and of course, holding all other factors; player types etc constant)
You don't want to go as wide as you would in a real HU game (where the SB has the button and can profitably open about 90% of hands). For ring games, just search for hand charts and then alter your ranges according to who is in the hand. e.g. the optimal button range might be around 40% of hands, but against nits you might open 80%. A SB opening range might be nearer 35%, but again you can adjust. When defending the BB, it again depends on who is opening and for what size. When faced by a small open and a wide range when you're IP (vs SB), you should obviously defend more often than you would if you faced a large open by a nit with a tight range on the button.
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