Hello guys! What's up?

I played this hand earlier and I wondered if I did the right move.



At what point in your opinion are we commited? I have almost 30% equity if villain had a pair preflop. His stack is smaller than a pot size bet so I guess he would shove with pretty much anything no?


Let's think about similar hands:

If we are heads-up, is it correct to insta jam if we are OOP?
If we are IP and villain checks, should we jam using our fold equity and our equity if called?

Last thing:

If the board wasn't connected and the J wouldn't give me a straight, we would lose some equity but would it change the way we play the hand?


I know there is a lot of "if" but this type of situation really bother me and I would love to hear your opinions about it.


Thanks in advance.

I wouldnt 4 bet AKo preflop.
You miss the flop and still call his donk-allin 1$ with pretty much air, I would fold OTF.

Put villain on a range, make assumptions about how he plays his range given the reads we have, make a decision (MATHS).

omg we were wrong? use this to refine our decision making process and attempt to understand why we were wrong.

"You mean QJo was in his 4bet stacking off range when he was x amount deep"

add to our reads

I think that since it's 2NL and we are only 5 at the table 4 betting is fine, limiting my 4 betting range to AA and KK is too nitty imo.

No read on villain so i would say TT+, AJ+. Now that I think about it I think that he haven't the correct odds to make the call here.


But if we imagine that we are first to act or that villain checks to us, adding the fold equity would make the shove +EV or I am thinking process is wrong?

I mean pre-flop.... Okay 4 betting isn't necessary bad, I think AK is an ideal hand to do this with, as you have some fold equity with a not made hand. But man you gotta fold on the flop.

I mean without a doubt anything he donks bet with here is ahead of you. Essentially you are calling here and hoping you hit one of your 10 outs. So you got like what a 40% chance or so hitting? Not sure if that gives you the pot odds to make that call, maybe, but not sure...

Given if villian flopped 2 pair, then you're actually crushed and you def do not have the pot odds to call. But I personally wouldn't have put QJ in his range, prob AQ, or maybe TT?

Regardless, PF was fine imo, however this flop is def not one you want to "commit" to.

WORK IT OUT

Try different ranges, different stack sizes (hugely important here), etc

4b/call is almost certainly best pre against these fish. Because they're bad I like your sizing too. I'd fold the flop. I'd say he's never bluffing and you have an average of about 8 outs (don't need to do the full equity calculation, guesstimates are almost always good enough).

Maybe have a look on Splitsuit.com great free article on there about SPR and when we HAVE to stack off mathematically