On a scale of 1 to 10, how hard is it to make an extra $1,000.00 a month playing either on Bovada or live $1-$2?

Live 1/2 if you are an average joe player/grinder you should be making 2k a month minimum 12k a year/1k a month is easy... My definition of a average grinder might be different from yours so...

I'd say most small stakes online players on PS who are "profitable/good" can make 2k+ a month easy playing LLSNL.

It depends on your skill level as well and player pool and other factors can't really fully answer this question but you get the ideas...

Live much easier ... It will depend on how 'good' the games are where you play.

$250/week live should rate a ???? on the scale. I don't know how good you are.

Come to think of it, I don't know how good I am, but I hit that number very often (sometimes much higher) averaging less than 15 hours per week. And if I 'had' to hit that number forcing me to reduce my 'gamble' I probably would hit it even more often.

I have dumped some of my profit back into tournaments, but most of it goes towards vacations at Disney and other theme parks for my family. GL

the real answer is about 9.5 as most people suck at poker. If you are asking this question I would have to assume that you are not highly skilled therefore it will be quite an undertaking for you to win 12k/year

I would rate it an 8. Its not that it's actually hard. Live 1/2 is actually quite soft but you seem to be starting from close to the beginning of your poker journey. You honestly should be at the point where you could probably beat one level higher but don't have the bankroll for it yet before I would say that beating 1/2 live is easy.

Hell of a lot easier to earn $1000 in a job.

I don't think it's really hard to get skill to beat live 1-2, even if you start from scratch.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong?

Pretty much this. Taking up poker to try to make money is like taking up music to try to make money.

A far better mindset is to take up poker because it's a fun game you truly enjoy, and if you happen to end up making money at it that's just bonus.

Quite frankly, that's the best mindset to take up music with as well.

Understood, love of the game is important, but if we aren't trying to beat the game, what are we doing on these forums?

Also, I'm not a total noob, I'm just trying to get a consensus for the games both live and online these days...

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you are not wrong, most of it is stuff away from the table and discipline at it

OP, with the picture you just posted I don't understand why you made this thread.

OP a 2.92bb/100 winrate at 50NL is darned impressive. Clearly you're doing SOMETHING right. I'd go as far as to say you're ahead of 95% of the people who ever sit down to the table, maybe more.

Good lord, you've paid $4600 in rake and made $1600 ROFLMAO!!!!

Why take up the game, why not just start a poker site and let everybody pay you rake hahahahaha. Seems like easier money!

The bulk of those hands were from the $50nl games in NJ (Partypoker and WSOP) That was over a year ago. When I go on a downswing, I tend to take long breaks. I've moved back to PA and have been playing on Bovada some and am looking into getting coaching. I just wanted to gauge the difficulty of making a few extra bucks to help out my family.

BTW i'm a decent player but when ever i move beyond $100nl, I get crushed...

will do.

You are wrong


I have played a lot of advantage poker in my time. I have seen a TON of wannabees come and go. Very few survive

It is not rocket science by any stretch of the imagination. But there are a ton of pitfalls that most people succumb to

Thank you.

Could you share with us some of those pitfalls?

Sht OP you got this... report back once you've made 35k this year now go do amazing things <3 GL

Lol only read half of the screeny again ah oh well even if it is WSOP and party poker Hit up atlantic city or new york casinos they are weak and you should still be able to do fine thought it was on Pokerstars but anyways lol

Also on a side note i was playing 100nl and 200nl in NJ WSOP 2 years ago when i was 17 and i knew fk all about poker literally fk all i was playing that sht with a 1k br (i got from 0 btw no i wasn't using parents money...) and didn't bust until like 5-7 months later but i still think your fine... lmao you will do decent/profit at LLSNL at least

What do you mean by "extra"?
If you're already working a day job, or grinding 100NL for 1bb/100, it could be very hard to make another $1000. If it was easy, you'd do it, wouldn't you?

You're going to get a lot of different answers. It also depends on how lucky you are to live near a good 1/2 casino, by which I mean you can get the kind of action your looking for based on the hours you play.. If you play mainly late night, then it doesn't matter, it will probably be juicy, and most importantly it depends on yourself.

Maybe learn a thing or two from these forums and give $1/2 a try. Do you think you can crush the game? That's the most important thing, what you think.

There was a guy on here named DGI_Harris, everyone worshipped him, he had like 10k plus posts and acted like a pro. He made all these posts about going pro and playing good holdem. After he read two or three of my posts he declared me as an incompetent who wouldn't make it. 2 years later, he's now busto and I'm transitioning to being a pro this year.

Haters are going to hate, others maybe supportive. If it's your dream, give it a shot and be critical. Ask yourself questions, like do you think you could beat these people now, or at least learn to beat them.

Best of luck to you.

I have a day job as an financial adviser and I would just like to supplement my income. Mainly, I just love the poker and want to take my game to the next level.

I can play online on Bovada, but I am also a 15 minute drive to Parx casino where there are always plenty of $1-$2 games and I'm less than 2 hours from the Borgata, if I want to go down on the weekends...

Are you a live or online pro?

transitioning to live pro, but I play a lot of poker on bovada too.

Where do you play live? Would you be interested in doing any coaching? I'm currently vetting potential coaches...

Me too. In the UK, if you want to make $1000 extra as a FA, stay at work for an extra hour or two (per month I mean, not per day) and sell one more mortgage or life policy (again, in a month). That's completely true, if a little flippant, but it makes the point that in a lot of industries it is waaaaayyyyyy easier to make money at work, than it is at the felt.

That said, you describe yourself as a serious, improving rec (exactly as I am) so basically you have a hobby you love which can make you money - what's not to like. I am 100% sure you could crush low stakes live with your stats, so its more a case of circumstance than ability.

Do you have the correct roll? (if you were a decent FA in the UK you would )
Do you have access to a poker room?
Do you have the life circumstances that allow you to play?

Alas for me the last two are a big fat no...so I'm stuck with the online battle.

Hey ho

GL

PS thanks for the graph... been thinking of closing my ranges recently.

Well considering you're winning at nl50 making 1k per month should be a complete walk in the park for you since even a break even player at that level can easily make 1k per month in rake back alone. You will need to multi table though or play zoom.

But yeah as people have said it depends on what you say is average. I consistently made 700 per month at nl2 at one point, yes nl2 as in 1cent 2cent blinds. 24 tabling of course for hours a day.