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09-02-2014 , 10:31 PM

#76

straightflucked12

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 430

i look for patterns and streaks, and if you can ride a streak and forgot about what if i lose, you will score big at times! just look at this- say i lose $400 when i visit a casino regularly. why not just go and go all in- if i win, go all in- etc....sure ill lose sometimes, but 5 in a row is 12k! so once in a while the huge score wipes out all the losses instead of other way around

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09-02-2014 , 11:40 PM

#77

NewOldGuy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,935

Math is hard.

Apparently.

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09-03-2014 , 02:56 PM

#78

Edgelooker1

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 650

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Originally Posted by straightflucked12

You make "sometimes" sound like the minority.

You really mean most of the time, as in 31/32 for 5 in a row (for coin flips). Worse for any -ev games.

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09-03-2014 , 03:32 PM

#79

NewOldGuy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,935

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Originally Posted by Edgelooker1

You make "sometimes" sound like the minority.

You really mean most of the time, as in 31/32 for 5 in a row (for coin flips). Worse for any -ev games.

Actually he can use a betting system where he loses on most trips but then occasionally gets it all back less the expected 1.5% net loss or so (times total wagers). We can devise a betting system to distribute the expected losses any way we want to. We just can't make them go away.

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09-05-2014 , 06:27 AM

#80

straightflucked12

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 430

bet it all on bank next trip win 3 in a row, go home happy if you lose just get drunk and play penny slots

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09-13-2014 , 01:02 AM

#81

David Sklansky

Administrator

Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 17,360

How did I miss this thread? How?

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09-13-2014 , 08:54 PM

#82

straightflucked12

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 430

what is a grand tie and how is it won?

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09-14-2014 , 03:02 AM

#83

WaKtickets

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 679

Reminds me of a blackjack ploppy telling me, "you know, the book isn't always right"

Also, next time I'm at the casino I'm going to try to find some Baccarat grinders.

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09-14-2014 , 06:28 PM

#84

NineNatural

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 336

There are a ton of bacc grinders at most places. It's a relatively cheap game for them as they basically (sometimes literally) sleep at the tables.

Saw a 21 player stand with A6 against a dealer 9 today. Dealer said, "standing on 7" he got angry and said "on 17". You'd think somebody smart enough to tie his shoes could figure that spot out with even the most rudimentary understanding of the rules of the game.

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09-14-2014 , 06:30 PM

#85

NineNatural

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 336

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky

How did I miss this thread? How?

It's not over yet.

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09-15-2014 , 03:32 AM

#86

straightflucked12

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 430

Well I won over 5000 in baccarat this week and am sitting in maui right now. Nice weather 84 degrees but no games here!

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09-15-2014 , 06:23 AM

#87

djatcbbq

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 251

I know lots of successful baccarat grinders, buying in for $1000's each day.

of course the money is supplied by loan sharks, and the juice is running starting from now.

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09-15-2014 , 07:54 AM

#88

NewOldGuy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,935

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Originally Posted by djatcbbq

I know lots of successful lucky baccarat grinders

FYP

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09-30-2014 , 03:18 AM

#89

WickedChippa

temp-banned

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 437

**** GRINIDNG POKER IM GOING TO BE A BACCARRAT PRO. BANKER BANKER BANKER PLAYER PLAYER BANK BANK ABNK ABKNABAB NAK LOL OLA OL **** U

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10-01-2014 , 11:18 AM

#90

d1cedealr

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 383

I'll give you guys the only guaranteed winning strategy. Buy a casino and open your own Baccarat table.

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10-01-2014 , 12:39 PM

#91

NineNatural

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 336

Far from guaranteed. Rake is a bitch.

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10-04-2014 , 05:47 AM

#92

GBV

banned

Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,331

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Originally Posted by d1cedealr

I'll give you guys the only guaranteed winning strategy. Buy a casino and open your own Baccarat table.

No. It is not actually that difficult to beat baccarat using methods soundly grounded in math.

For some reason the only thing ever discussed on forums like this one is bull**** trending/progression systems which don't work.

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10-04-2014 , 06:31 AM

#93

Didace

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 20,414

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Originally Posted by GBV

No. It is not actually that difficult to beat baccarat using methods soundly grounded in math.

Please elaborate.

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10-04-2014 , 08:31 AM

#94

NineNatural

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 336

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Originally Posted by Didace

Please elaborate.

People already have. Nobody is going to work too hard to dispel the "not worth the time" end of it...

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10-05-2014 , 12:42 PM

#95

parttimepro

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,283

OP, update? You should be up to like $100K by now!

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10-06-2014 , 02:47 AM

#96

Joss

banned

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,301

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Originally Posted by d1cedealr

I'll give you guys the only guaranteed winning strategy. Buy a casino and open your own Baccarat table.

Or play in AC when they don't shuffle the cards.

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10-12-2014 , 10:02 PM

#97

AaHigh

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 59

A beatable high limit table game designed for folks who understand math exists. It is just simply not yet available for play.

http://nanotechent.com/vegas2047.php