LA poker is different because for a long time it really was the poker capitol of the world (might still be) and the players DEALT THEIR OWN. this created a massive culture of cheating and angle shooting and when dealers were brought in everyone thought they could do it better than the dealer so theres a lot of butting in and dealer abuse. it gets better every year but LA is still starkly different than vegas or AC where you get snap thrown out of the poker room for even looking sideways at an employee.

this is also because in those other cites the poker room is in an actual casino so management would rather have everyone in the poker room gambling outside the poker room, they endure poker not promote it. Once playing at Venetian in a 5-10nl game an indian google exec plopped down at like 2am and just started lighting money on fire. playing 100% of his hands betting blind and running like **** to boot, he was down 25k in an hour. when the next dealer push came, NO DEALER. floor came over and said a dealer called in sick or something and we had to wait a little bit, A disheveled VIP host swoops in and was obv the google dudes private host, he tells the guy it would be a while until dealer arrived but they had his private BJ table set up and promptly escorted him to a BJ table cordoned off with velvet ropes!! lololol.

A guy in my game used to use addrall. he could play insane amounts of hours but i think it fried his brain. He never wanted to miss a hand and had it timed so he could make it to the bathroom and back on dealer change if he didn't button up his pants (he always wore levis) so his pants were never buttoned and i would bet people that he wouldn't button his pants when he came back from bathroom until everyone caught on that he never did.

california split or Barry Lyndon.

That's wild and I guess not too surprising.

Although oddly I remember at Bellagio once playing 5/10 nl and this mega whale dumping had a special rule for him- he didn't have to wait and the game would be made 10 handed for him. Once someone else left it would go back to 9.

I didn't realize games in legal LA card rooms used to be self dealt which definitely explains a lot of the angling and general scumbag behavior that's accepted there- or at least was more accepted a while ago.

Zero chance he washed his hands. Gross.

Also, buttoning pants takes 5 seconds and can be done whilst walking or running. What an idiot.

Not sure how that actually made your friend better at poker. Sounds like it just let him play ungodly amounts of poker . Which could be good or bad depending on whether he was good at poker or not.

yea that guy clearly had problems

Oh noees, even a legend can get it wrong!

By your logic then, even Jobs was also a pretender and a piker. Musk is the ONLY true successor to the GENIUS and legacy that was Jobs. There are many billionaries who got LUCKY once ie Zuckerberg, Gates, Brin/Page, etc but try and ask them to do it again. Highly unlikely that they can. The geniuses are the ones that do it more than once which is why Jobs is beloved and revered.

SpaceX has the real potential to be worth much more than Tesla. Imagine mining asteroids for precious metals. Musk has a legit chance to be the world's first trillionaire. Agreed that Twitter/X has been somewhat of an economical blunder but so was NeXT computer. But when you consider what Musk will ultimately be worth, it kinda doesn't matter that he spent a few measly billion on this plaything that he thinks can influence the world.

I know you don't read books but try and give Isaacson's biography a shot. Gives a good insight into Musk. Exposes BS theories like Musk "stole" Tesla from the original founders. Completely idiotic. The original founders would have run Tesla into the ground just like the all the other failed auto companies in history. Musk and Jobs are revered because they didn't get "lucky".

Besides this disagreement, really appreciate your posts and wisdom.

Not sure about the other LA casinos, but there are 3-4 bounty 5/5/10 NLHE games running every day at Gardens. Those bounty NLHE games have average pot sizes comparable to 10/20 NLHE+ but with a lot of weird variance because of the mandatory single board NLHE bomb pots and bounty preflop warring.

Those games are all public. Just saying that it isn't really true that there is ZERO public 10/20 NLHE level games in LA.

How's the bounty work?

If you win two hands in a row, you get $25 bonus from each other player at the table. If someone loses $200+ in the pot, they get an exemption from having to pay $25.

Sometimes, players will play variants of the bounty game that make the bonus even bigger. For example, there will be a double bounty game spread sometimes where the bonus is $50 from each player.

This creates a metagame where the player with the bounty button will try very hard to win the pot, and all the other players will respond by playing very loosely against the bounty button.

A 5/5 game that maybe “plays like” a T20 isn’t a public T20 game. Everyone says that about their own game. People think the average T20 game has no straddles or extra action lol. You find massive degenerates at all stakes.

Favorite wine grape? Producer?

You have a cellar at all?

That’s standard for Noir cards.

It is a 5/5/10 blinds game (not 5/5 blinds). Often it has mandatory straddles to 20. When he double bounty variant is played, mandatory 40 straddles are common. The $25 bonus from every player leads to huge pots. It is common for some Villains with the bounty button to shove his stack 1k+ stack preflop if it is folded to him.

I don't think it is an exaggeration at all for me to compare the Gardens 5/5/10 bounty game to 10/20 NL+.

All of that happens in T20 games but at larger stakes.

well ya mega whales get any special requests they want but if they are randomly in the poker room or the sports book their host is gonna want them out of there.the casino comped golf at places like shadow also costs a fortune because they'd rather you not be there. steve wynn was the only casino guy who actively tried to get super whales in to play poker, sports and golf.

he was a crusher, super nova elite many times over before black friday.

Sounds Great.

I used to think so but there are 2 noir players who play Aria plo. One plays a lot of poker there (loose passive not sole blaster.)
Both wait on the lists like normal.

So either it changed or these guys don't know about it.

Based on how the Bellagio guy played and was treated my guess is he was a special kind of whale.

you pointed to a capped 5-10 game to prove there are still 10-20 games? loololol. and the pot sizes aren't remotely comparable, the 10-20 semi private game at commerce had a 45k pot the other day where the winning hand was pocket 66.

I mean 66 is a pretty good hand, was it all in pre or something

ya i have prob 150 bottles aging. im a member at pine ridge, duckhorn, costa brown, dusi, justin, tobin james, prob forgetting a few, i like all grape varietals obv my most expensive wines are stags leap cabs which go great with my steaks!

correct. say you haven't played big games without saying you havent played big games. a guy in the 10-20 plo was perma-straddling his whole stack (9k) and going out to smoke cigarettes then coming back in and asking if he won or not.

ive heard the HG game is good but its a Capped buy in game the last time anyone mentioned it to me and no one says its like the multiple public uncapped 10-20s of the past.

ya, one player shipped 15k blind and got called by 66 and A8 iirc.