Also making a fish wonder, why there is a way to fold hands automatically? and why can you select which position you can fold it from too, why does hand selection and position matter, I'll google it......

This thread could be dangerous in the wrong hands lol

You are supposed to play the game, not the software.
Which hands to play and which to fold is clearly a game related decision that you should have to make yourself every time. We don't want to start automating game related decisions.
You could also look at it like this: In those hands in which the software folds for you, you're opponents were actually playing against the software, not against you. I think poker should continue to be a game of people playing against people.

if you honestly can't work out yourself why this is a terrible idea then poker probably isn't for you

**** off with your ******ed ideas. if u can't play 24 tables without auto-folding built in, then you can't play 24 tables. go play 16

highcard for button already!! seriously stars, this is getting ridiculous.

When I started at Pokerstars in order to be able to multi table they adviced me:

"Here are some tips if you are interested in multi-tabling:

--Many multi-tablers use big monitors, the bigger the better so more tables
can fit on the screen and showing on a decent size, they even have more than
one monitor. We have seen players using 4 monitors!"

So I got me a huge monitor.

Unfortunately almost 5 years later Pokerstars still doesn't support that and the tables still don't show in a decent size. The lobby does, their website does, but the tables no.
What is the reason PS advices to take a larger screen and then won't let you use it?

You all missed the point: Its to make the game faster to multitablers, and easier.

I dont play 83off utg, i dont need 14 windows popping up to show me that hand- If autofold its activacted i can pay more attention in tables where i actually have a profitable situation.

Maybe if Stars dont wanna do it, realease some kind of software to do it, ill insta buy it.

(sorry my english, hope you get the point)

The positives:

- Erref Mecul can play more tables, yay

The negatives:

- more regs playing more tables - if I have to explain why this would be really bad for you then oh dear
- fish autofolding bad hands because they don't get impatient anymore
- fish learning about position/ranges/hand strengths and getting better

do you see where I'm coming from?

I'm not being funny but if I was pokerstars I wouldn't listen to you either, you sound like an angry computer ****** who just blames everything on stars.

Pokerstars doesn't support your monitor? Are you being serious?

its not going to happen, stars wont allow any sort of "auto playing" feature. They dont even want to implement auto raise size by position (ex: 3x EP, 2,5x MP, 2x LP) to their hotkeys because that would be "too much".

And rightfully so.
Let's wait what PS has to say, shall we.


This is a part from the PS mail I got:

"Een mogelijke oorzaak van een aangetast "user.ini"-bestand is het blokkeren van een groot aantal individuele spelerafbeeldingen. Als je er een gewoonte van hebt gemaakt om de afbeelding van iedere speler die je tegenkomt te blokkeren, dan zou dit probleem opnieuw op kunnen treden tenzij je het aantal afbeeldingen dat je blokkeert vermindert. Ons software-team is op de hoogte van dit mogelijke probleem."

Translation:

A possible cause of a corrupt user ini file is the blocking of a large amount of individual player images.
If you have made a habit of blocking the image of every player you meet this problem could occur again, unless you reduce the amount of blocked images.
Our software team is aware of this possible (??) problem.


It took me almost 5 years to block all these images. The problems started pretty much right away, so it didn't take that many blocked images to get them started. Since then I have continued to block many player images for years, untill I got that mail from PS two weeks ago. I can never in my life unblock enough player images to get the software functional again.


You can easily verify if I am trolling or not.

First send a mail saying your HHs aren't saved.
You get a mail back saying your user ini file is probably corrupt and you must replace it.

Then send a mail asking how that file could be corrupt and if you should be worried.
Now you will get the same mail I got except in another language.


Right now more people are blocking more images which will make their software unplayable.

Doe spelerbeelden uit

Color coding people in zoom lobbies should be implemented. This was possible back in the rush days, makes grinding so much easier.

Omg...Poker stars have a SCHOOL OF POKER right at the lobby and you are worried bout this? jeez

1) Sorry for you if regs means trouble. If you are competitive enough, you have to beat anyone. I prefer playing with regulars and owning good players rather than bumhunting and playing against n00bs. N00bs tilts the **** out of me.

2) ZOOM HELLO?

3)



No

PSO is for teaching someone the theories of how to improve their play, if they are determined enough to read and to learn. Even without PSO, the players that search for poker teaching tools will find them eventually.

The auto-fold hand ranges feature will teach even those players unaware of some of the theories behind poker skill, such as hand selection and position, how to improve. Even if it doesn't teach them anything, it will still improve their ability drastically by eliminating the garbage hands from play.

For example, say players A and B have been folding hand after hand, and are getting impatient. The players are on the button and are dealt 92o. There is a late position raise. Player A, who has the auto-fold feature, automatically folds his hand. Player B, who does not have the auto-fold feature, decides he wants to try a bluff and so he makes a raise. The original raiser will make more money off of impatient player B than he will from A.

Basically, the auto-fold feature may not only teach players unaware of the importance of position and hand values, but it will prevent them from going crazy with weird bluff attempts.

"such as hand selection and position?" lol



If players get impatient and wanna make a move, they wouldnt enabled the auto fold option, ducy?

lol at saying that regs playing 24 tables instead of 16 tables is fine because you want to be "competitive". nice way to kill the poker economy by having the fish drained super fast because regs are playing so many more tables. "n00bs" might tilt the hell out of you but who cares about you, the poker economy as a whole is way more important

there's a big difference between "introducing" someone to simple concepts and them having a clue how to use it. fish always try and play lag like their high stakes heros, and videos can "introduce" them how to light 3bet, but they never get it right.

people don't get impatient first hand. they get impatient after a bunch of bad hands. if they have this auto fold enabled they'd never get impatient because they'd be able to fire up more tables when they were bored and hands were auto folding, so your argument doesn't make any sense.

LOL

translation:

o hai there, i play 5NL and am clueless

If a player has enabled the auto fold feature, by the time their hand is dealt and they decide to get impatient and go crazy with it, it may already be too late and the hand will be folded, regardless of the player's desires.

Sure, you could suggest adding a feature for the auto-fold to wait 10 seconds every hand to give the player a chance to disable the auto fold feature so they can go spew crazy, but that is a terribly horrible idea that absolutely nobody would like because it would slow the game down so much.

So add an override button to the 10 second delay? Then there is no point to the auto-fold feature.

I understand this, and i agree with stars. Because the game will be more "robotic" and less human, i cant explain, my language its limited.

But my point its different, its about folding. This decision can only perjudicate the player who chooses what to fold.

On the other side, not everyone can afford 4, 2 monitors to grind 24 tables. And if i resize, the hud blocks everything. Thats my problem when multitabling.

Another considerations:

• When im in a hand, i need to follow the hand (this means, watching the table) for timing porposes. (Its no the same a snap raise than a tank-raise) so i have to move the window apart, doing this while a lot of tables are constantly poping up its not easy.
  
• I need to see what villain had (with the replayer)
  
• I need to take notes on the player

That take some time, and, again, when you have 24 tables popping up its not easy, (missclicks, sitting out, etc)

So autofolding would be great for me, other than more people multitabling means more rake for stars.

Note: Only on cash games (autofolding on tourneys would be suicidal)

1) When auto folding,the hand its dead from the let go. No time to nada. "Regardless of the player desires" The player can actually chose what to fold, so that dont make any sense.

2) That "10 seconds" its your idea, not mine.

Cause a guy who has arguments like this its a well respected middle, high stakes pro.

It's been said repeatedly but if you can't multitable 24 tables stop multitabling 24 tables. It's not Stars' job to make this easy for you - in fact it's probably contrary to what they want (people not autofolding = people calling/raising more = more rake. Also means we don't have games killed by regs)

If you want to 24-table so badly, get better at multitabling. There's only so far software enhancements can help - at some point you're going to just have to get faster at making decisions and clicking buttons.

wow, Bubbleblower and Erref Mecul going toe to toe for the "most amusingly ******ed poster in 2+2 history" award ITT