Your position in sngs is no longer displayed on the table. Like in the top right it used to say 4/12 for ex. Is there a way to bring this back?

I got an email maybe a week or two ago about a survey from Pokerstars. The entire survey was about the rewards program. There's plenty of room to trash the current program and make real suggestions in the survey.

Check your emails, completing that is probably a better option than posting in this thread. If you didn't get the email or can't find it, then maybe email them directly and request the survey so you can fill it out.

I received the survey July 19th, so significantly more than a couple of weeks ago, but the link was still valid and I got to fill it out. There's nothing in the body of the email indicating what the survey is about, so I imagine lots of folks didn't even bother looking. I trashed the current program as articulately as I could while pushing for something that resembled more of a straight rakeback scheme.

One thing that I didn't trash that I wish I did was the occasional real money bonus offers that, for me, based on my recent historical volume and level or play, were ludicrously impossible to clear. A $10 bonus offer that I can actually clear is miles ahead of a $200 bonus offer that I'll need to make a deposit and move up to clear.

I have a suggestion that I think would make the games more sustainable for lower and micro stakes cash game players... LOWER THE RAKE CAP

Taking 20bb from $5 games and 15bb from $10 games is no way to keep the games going. Even at $25 games a 8bb cap is pretty high

Make up for the loss by raising the cap or the rake percentage on mid and high stakes games.

I haven't crunched any numbers but as an example, what diff would it really make to raise the cap from $3 to $4 in 1/2 and higher games?

Or raise the percentage instead of the cap. For ex raise it to 7% from the current 5%. The $3 cap gets hit relatively quickly in mid stakes games so a couple percent wouldn't be felt by the players that much.

Why are small stakes players paying sooo much in comparison to mid and high stakes players???

Most rec players are at low and micros and moving up in stakes would be much easier if they weren't losing such a high percentage of their win rate to the rake...

Just my opinion. Please don't take offense mid and high stakes players

NL5 has 20bb cap?I thought it is 10bb.

Yup... $1 for 5+ players... can't even hit the cap if 2 players get all in for 200bb each

https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/rake/

Yes...it takes 20$ pot to hit the cap.

Can someone explain why the rake is so high on micros but not on mid and high stakes?

jokerstars prevent so many micro players from moving up in stakes. But they can potentially earn more rake when more players would play higher.

How would you beat 15++ bb rake and high variance variants like zoom, plo, 6+

They are just creating treadmills for many players.

But hey more rake ist better.

Literally the first player i looked up sitting at microplo right now. Pretty sure the micros are still beatable and no hindrances for moving up have been created.

I agree the game is still beatable but thats besides the point.
Why tax the smallest games the hardest?
Also, even though its beatable, majority of the players are still recs and Pokerstars claims that they want to make the games sustainable. What better way than lower the cap and keep the money on the tables? They can make up the lost revenue from higher stakes games by charging a relatively small amount more there since in reality we all know they really don't care about the players. At least my suggestion would show that they are trying to do what they claim they want to do...

How is it sustainable making already tough games unbeatable and lowering rake in games where people win at 20bb/100 anyway?

Saying rake should be lowered will just fall on def ears to just about any poker site.

They tax the smallest games the hardest is because they can and they are still massively beatable.

You seem to mistakenly think that the amount of money that a poker site makes is primarily a function of what stakes they play. It isn't. The money that a poker site makes is (mostly) a function of how much money players deposit.

U have to put much effort into it to get such graphs lol. And pls tell me why someone would play 450k hands on plo10? U cant play normal tables anymore. So you have to play zoom. Its a ****ing high Rake nit fest with MASSIVE SWINGS.

I just ment they create more and more high variance variants and even chase more rake. For me thats a clear hindrance for micro players. they got raked to death.

Did they remove the normal tables or why is it you can't play normal tables anymore? And how do you manage to have massive swings against nits? You just punt stacks after stacks to them or what?

you can play 4 reg tables simultaneously at stars.eu. which reg would 4 table only?

more top ranges against each other effect swings.

For some reason Stars removed the players remaining and blind levels info from the tables. Right as Party Poker is adding info to the tables to make things easier on all players Stars is removing it? I don't get it. Please bring this back.

Well that kind of a reg who wins playing 4 tables perhaps? And the latter is just total nonsense. Playing against nits is wery easy and variance free. If they have it they will let you know and you can just abort the mission. And it seems btw you cant play for crap if you can't beat the micros and blame it on the rake. Perhaps you should focus on the quality of your game instead of volume?

You can still see it from the info tab. That's weird though.

I think everyone understands that TSG is in it for the money and have already demonstrated they can cut the loyalty program drastically and still be a substantial market leader.

The question to them from me is could they capture more of the market and regenerate interest in the game by improving the loyalty program.

Unsustainable (online) ecosystem with a rake of 5% without rakeback. Cash game will die, high stakes nl10 in 2020

Rgn rigged standardized with other rooms, endangering the future of the game, just for the money. Kill the small regs, congratulations vultures.

using mac osx and my stars randomly crashes (no warning etc) from time to time. maybe on average once every 6-8 hours of play.
e-mailed support tonnes including logs, they told me to re-install, which i did, didn't help. told me to delete some file, also didn't help.
i played in many different locations around the world, they said it could be due to bad internet, firstly it seems dumb if the internet disconnects that the software just crashes/closes as opposed to what happens on windows (it stays open), but it happened in so many spots that i really doubt that is the problem, others played on the same internet with no issues (but not mac)

recently a friend with the same laptop model installed stars and first day had a crash. any idea anyone?

4 reg tables max is good. Button blind ante games are good. Zoom is good. High rake on micros is good. High variance variants are good.

btw. tighter ranges/top ranges != nits. A 10 VPIP 9 PFR player is easy to exploit thats no the point.

And who actually says that I am affected myself? Please teach me PS fanboy

Why would anyone care so much about micros if they werent affected by themselfs? Learn to play and move on. Stop making excuses why you can't beat the games. Ignoring you now and stopping derailing this thread.

I had the same problem,but with a different laptop(It was a Dell)
Had all those crashes,sent logs,uninstall stars,reinstall,delete user.ini,sent logs again,made some internet changes,change internet wire and reinstall the windows and repeat.
It all worked out when i changed my pc,now it's flawless.

After i did that,i realised that due to a network board update stars didnt workled properly,so you might check the recent updates that were made on your PC.You should check as well,if after updates the firewall added pokerstars to "not safe".You should be able to revert the recent updates and my guess is that you wont have any problems with stars.

You should definetely try to check with a different computer in the same locations to see if you have the same problem

You can no longer click on your cards now as in click them? Previously you could click each of your 2 cards and even show 1 or show 2 cards. But you can't even click on either of the cards now? Previously you could click on it and it the card would go higher on the screen.


I did a software update recently for stars and same thing.

my friend has the same laptop model in the same location as i play currently and it crashed once already, didn't try it much yet tho but that isn't a good start.

others definitely played in locations ive played elsewhere, without this issue. its super rare that stars crashes in my experience, this is happening reasonably often (sometimes 3 times in a day) so something is wrong, pretty annoying :S
im getting the impression its a mac (or least my mac model) issue, firstly cause of the friend with the exact same model crashing on first day trying. also cause on various windows laptops in the past i never had this issue, i mean sure it crashes very occasionally but this has been relatively frequent.
i also have access to more than one internet connection at current location and changing doesnt seem to help