Is there a way to set chests to auto open? clicking a bunch of times to get $.20 is getting tilting.

Click and close your eyes. Opening a chest is not more tilting than sweating an all-in.

Opening a chest, waiting for my sweet sweet 3-4% RB EV.

Feels so good.

Esp knowing on my other tables i have 55% RB ( Party )

Guesstimation of my departure from Stars is what, 24 hours?

Thanks

I should point out that 6.137% is the EV of an un-'boosted' red 240.
For players who open 2 red chests a day or less and each chest at least 8 hours apart (such as yourself at the present time), there may be more value, because all of your chests are 'boosted', but this depends on the amount of boost given, which is never guarenteed.

Let me explain, your next chest won't be exactly 6.137%, that is the EV that an unboosted rakeback tends towards the more you play and the more chests you open.
(regardless of what prize you get in the chest).
As you move up in chest types to blue, bronze etc. the boost (apparently) becomes more and more insignificant and can be ignored.

So your next chest...

If you stopped playing right now your actual rakeback is exactly 8.6% as you said.
If you keep playing (for weeks/months) and every chest you open from now on is red 240 with a boost of 75, your EV = 8.927% rakeback
If you open two reds in under 8 hours, one red 240/boost 75 and one unboosted = (8.927+6.137)/2 = 7.532% rakeback
If they reduce your boosts over time, your rakeback for red 240 reduces over time heading towards 6.137%.
If you played a lot in one day, the typical chest after 4 x red 240, is a blue 560. Which is 8.139%

An important thing to note is, on the previous system we knew what we got, you could take a few days off, and come back still knowing you'd get 20% or whatever and be able to grind 20 steps and get same amount, or grind more, generate more rake and get more back for that effort.
This new system, there are no guarentees.
It looks like this system actually punishes recreationals with less rakeback, if they decide to put in any more volume. Even tiny amounts of volume.

I think it's quite likely however, they might give you a red 200 chest
If you get a red 200 with 75 boost that's = EV 11.783% (but only if you keep getting red200/boost75 all the time! If they move you back to red 240 etc, or lower boost, your rakeback goes down)

Sorry for the long explaination

Let me know how it goes

If the departure is the way to manage tilt that works for you, I'm obviously not going to discourage you and wish you GL at your new place(s)

In case you wonder, I don't play cash games anywhere, but I'm indeed under the impression that Amaya is no longer interested in being the biggest operator in the world for cash games. Its revenue from tourneys (of all kinds combined) started exceeding its cash game revenue in Q1 2015, just after Spin & Gos were launched.

No. I've asked them.

Chests have 3-month expiration. Either have an auto-clicking script written during that time, or arrange special bimonthly chest-clicking sessions where you'll meditate, then open all the chests that you've earned in the last couple of months, then meditate again to kill the tilt.

What an unfortunate case of grammatical ambiguity... I meant, 'I'm not going to discourage you, and I do wish you GL...'

lol ~3 days after I say at least we still have card match to match our ****ty ass rakeback chests , amaya removes it

maybe they read this thread after all

if you play with your boost and stuff, your chests are worth 30% rb on average. wish i had your chests dude

Why would rec players get excited about chests when all they contain is peanuts 99.99% of the time?

Looking at the red chest for example, the payouts range from .06 to .60, with a very rare $100 prize. Instead of offering 3-4% rakeback, if you doubled or even tripped that (which would still be quite low), you could add in a $50, $25, $10, $5 prize to the red chest that would show up once and awhile.

Right now when someone opens a chest there is zero excitement, the player assumes they will receive 20 cents. The chests are too much "all or nothing", and really could use some medium rewards.

the red chest is actually 50$ :P

Wow, thanks so much for that detailed explanation Wild Card! You must be paying close attention to all the details that everyone's been posting to have figured all that out about a system that PS seems to have done their best to try to make confusing. It's so helpful to understand how the system works - so really appreciate you sharing all that you've been able to find, and custom-tailoring all your findings to my situation! Thanks!!

Guess PS started everybody off at a certain chest/rate based on recent/past play - and then moving forward, besides casino/sports-betting and downswings or deposits ... guess the amount people are playing is also affecting the rate a fair amount? So if my play/stake increases, maybe my rate could go as low as 6.1% ... or if it takes me 3 months to open the next chest, maybe some future ones could go as high as 11.8%?

Yes, for sure will come back and post an update on the next chest, so there's more data for the knowledge bank. It could be interesting to see what happens if my next chest doesn't wind up getting opened until November

Are your boosts time based, like the one JDawg was showing in his picture?

Mine look like this, and the boost is on all the time until it fills, and then there's no more boost - maybe because it's taking so long for me to open a chest (8 days) or something?

It's been around 5%.

With a full-time job, I'm not scheduling my playtime around boosts, and the boosts only last for that long anyway.

Is it me or is it not that bad?

I usually get around 1k-3k stars coin (10-30$) + anywhere from 0-25$

I'm the equivalent of what supernova/platinum used to be, if that affects stuff.

As my anger towards Amaya and DNEGS grows daily, im going to keep letting people know that Partypoker has 55%+ RB.

I just want Amaya to die out, and RIOpoker to come.

<3

Just me or no more card match for PLO games

the boost are every 8 hours for everybody but you have to clean your current boost to get another in 8 hours they dont cumulate

They figured out that with the cardmatch, we had 5% RB. Which was clearly too much. So they removed cardmatch alltogether.

To keep everyone at their place. At the cool 0-4% RB.

Are you able to open an entire chest with boosts? Do you stop when the boost is over and wait? Have your boosts been getting smaller?

Just saw the description of boosts on the Stars site mentioning that new boosts are given every 8 hours - guess that must mean was given a new one as well, although it didn't look like was given a new one after mine was completed?

Will have to pay closer attention to my second chest though, because it sounds like there must have been a second boost?

ya you can clear your boost, stop playing for 8 hrs, play with boost again then stop when it's gone -> repeat forever opening chests only on boost, you just have to like playing super short sessions since boost tends to not last very long

for example im on bronze chests and to open it I need 1400 points. Every 8 hrs I get a 200 points 'boost' , so if I play in the morning I typically clear it during my session, then go to work, get home (8+ hrs later) and I have another 200 points 'boost'.
If I want to open a chest only on boost it would take ~7 days
but since I play a lot I clear multiple a day so my time/money paid in rake to points gained ratio is a lot worse/ alas worse rakeback


If however you only play a little bit and don't finish your boost, you can come back the next day and only have half of your boost left it won't reset

my red chests are on 280 points with 75pts boost? so if i play on stars w/o a boost i need to generate 2.80$rake to get ~ 7 cents ? (or a 1in1000000000 to get 1000$) worth it !


_________,i, lol stars

What I did is I played more than usual 1 day to get to an higher tier that i would normally be able to get at my normal play rate so I could have bigger boosts and spend most of my regular session during boosts

That said I also play when not boosted sessions would be too short otherwise but I always try to begin a brand new session with a fresh new boost up.

Ive bigger boost than 200 at bronze ive 360 boosts. I also have a 1400 clearing

Glad you found it helpful

Yes, you get the idea, it does seem to work something like that.
Really seems like Pokerstars have got it the wrong way round for recreational players (or opposite to what they might claim).
I think they said something like 'the more you play, the bigger the chest' but I think this might be a massive exaggeration on their part, and in some cases (perhaps for many people) it is not actually true.
I guess they generally keep a huge number of people at around ~6% to ~8%, which is roughly old BronzeStar or below.

I look forward to hearing about your next chest

How many points does your platinum chest require? Thanks