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Originally Posted by mrdasefx
The question is..... How will they make money? Advertising?
Sirius/XM had $2.1B in revenue last year combined, almost entirely subscription revenue.
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Who is going to give them 700 million to offset the money they gave these fools upfront? Nobody will. And even if they do that is breakeven.
They didn't give Stern, Stewart or Karmazin $700m in cash, primarily they were given stock options and some of that expense was just the cost of salaries and equipment for the show.
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Our financial obligations under our agreement with Howard Stern ... are payable partly in cash and partly in shares of our common stock. Our aggregate fixed obligations under the agreement are approximately $100 million per year. These costs include production and operating costs for the show, including compensation of show cast and staff, overhead, construction costs for a dedicated studio, a budget for the development of additional programming and marketing concepts, and payments to Stern and his agent.
And given the current stock price, Stern's deal is probably worth less than $500M. He got 56M shares in the first two years of the deal, I think he sold much of it, but if he didn't it's worth less than $80M now. Either way, the deal was well worth it to Sirius shareholders. Sirius won the battle because of Stern, XM had a huge lead when Stern signed, around six times more subscribers, and it ultimately ended with a merger where Sirius is the dominant partner. If Stern hadn't been signed by Sirius, they likely would have gone bankrupt.
So to value them now, you have to determine how much money the combined company will make, if any. Combined they burned around $1B in negative cash flow last year. So how will that turn around? The combined company has a bunch of drivers that should improve performance dramatically.
1) They no longer have to pay automakers for exclusivity in competition with each other. In fact automakers may have to pay Sirius XM to add a valued option to their cars. At least costs should decline.
2) There is no more confusion holding up consumer sales about which system to get. Consumers can get XM or Sirius and soon you will have access to the best content from both, whether it is Stern or MLB, etc. Their installed base had still been growing strongly, now growth may accelerate again. Either way revenues should grow substantially over the next few years.
3) Karmazin has announced that it's $5 per month extra to access the other systems content. I.e. if you want Howard Stern on XM, you'll pay $5 per month to get it as part of a best of Sirius package. So revenues should increase.
4) When it comes time to renegotiate content licenses, whether with Stern or sports leagues, Sirius-XM won't be bidding against itself any more. Even if the rights fees don't decline, they'll be able to spread them over many more subscribers. And they don't need to license and program two channels of Hard Rock, Gangsta Rap music Content costs will decline.
5) They can eliminate tons of duplicate expenses in advertising, marketing, support, etc. So operational costs should decline.
I personally have little doubt they will be substantially profitable within a few years, but I haven't done enough research to say whether the current price is attractive or not.