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Originally Posted by ICanHas$Pls
Help me make the optimal decision here regarding investing vs. paying off debt.
Background: 32 years old, stuck around poker a few years too long. Quit a couple years ago, spent about a year re-skilling, and this past year was my first full year of actual work in a career-track type of job. At the beginning of the year I started with about $29k in CC debt, I'm down to $6k now.
I'm a financial noob and have never contributed to any type of retirement plan up to this point, so I would like to start a Roth IRA. As it so happens, the max contribution for 2019 is the same as my remaining CC debt. Google tells me April 15 2020 is the deadline for contributing to a Roth IRA that counts for 2019. I'll have enough to pay off my CC balance by then and a little more, but not enough to max it out. I would have enough for both CC/Roth by the end of May probably. My card has 16.49% APR.
Is there some feasible way for me to max out my Roth for 2019? For what it's worth my credit is actually not too bad, 746 currently. Don't think I've ever missed a payment, but more minimum payments than I care to think about.
As an aside, should I be hesitant about getting into a Roth IRA asap? There seems to be a lot of people saying the market is due for a crash (I understand people have being saying this for many years now, but still looking at the historical returns for people who start investing just before market downswing has me nervous).
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Pay off your CC debt first, don't worry about your IRA at the moment. Not only does it make more financial sense to pay off your debt first, it'll be a huge burden off your shoulders and something less to stress about. Having something like that on your mind everyday is not something you want.
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Generally, I'd totally agree with the above poster. However, it appears like you have a ton of self control and are aggressively paying things down. If you can do both by May, I'd go ahead and max the Roth IRA for last year and then make sure you can do it again for 2020 contributions. You can't ever get back IRA contribution windows once they pass, so that would be the deciding factor for me if it just means you're paying a couple months of credit card interest. I'd also see if you can find a card you can balance transfer that to for a lower interest rate too. For someone less diligent, I'd always say go for the credit card debt first.
Never hesitate to invest, you can always find people predicting doom no matter what the status of the stock market. Bottom line is that investing is +EV; timing the market is a suckers game for pretty much everyone.
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Agree that you can max the IRA and then take the CC debt out right after if you can continue your aggressive pay down schedule that took you from 29k to 6k. Doubt stress on CC debt is a big issue for him since he's already taken out 80% of it.
And don't worry about the market being ready to correct even if it is going to do so. That is just going to work to your advantage as you dollar cost average in over the next X number of years. Congrats on crushing the debt.
I realize now I probably should have posted this in the General newbie/queries thread, but since I received thoughtful advice I'll continue here.
So I just found out that foreign earned income that goes toward the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion can't be put into a Roth IRA...
I don't believe this affects my 2019 taxes because I worked in the US Jan-July '19, but I've been working overseas (China) since August '19. So my understanding is that I will not have been out of the country enough days to qualify for FEIE and can contribute to a Roth IRA this year (right?).
However, after learning this I'm concerned/confused about the optimal plan going forward, as I intend to qualify for the FEIE for the foreseeable future. Does this completely eliminate Roth IRA as an option (assuming I don't surpass the FEIE income limit, which I almost certainly won't)? And if so what should I do with the money I save?