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03-21-2012 , 09:49 AM
I have a question for you smart guys in here.

If I want to change to a different domain, can I take down my old domain and copy all the content onto the new doamin without getting a duplicate content problem from Google? I could wait 3-6 months between the migration if needed to help with the duplicate problem. Obviously the less time I would have to wait would be best. Any info would be appreciated.
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03-21-2012 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bdaddy
I echo the sentiment on GoDaddy. I like using namecheap for registration and Hostgator for hosting, fwiw.
This is who I use. I hate GoDaddy with a passion.
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03-21-2012 , 11:14 AM
You'll want to 301 redirect all the old URLs to the equivalent new URLs. There will be no penalty but a slight loss of link juice. Initially your traffic may dip but it should come back.
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03-21-2012 , 02:00 PM
Yeah, definitely 301. And like Bradley said, 301 each page individually to the new version on the new domain.
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03-21-2012 , 03:03 PM
I'd also probably get some fresh links going to the new domain right away. Something like this on a dripfeed should give the new site a huge ass boost - http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/...nnovation.html
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03-21-2012 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by V0dkanockers
I have a question for you smart guys in here.

If I want to change to a different domain, can I take down my old domain and copy all the content onto the new doamin without getting a duplicate content problem from Google? I could wait 3-6 months between the migration if needed to help with the duplicate problem. Obviously the less time I would have to wait would be best. Any info would be appreciated.
Duplicate content shouldn't be a problem, you will want to 301 redirect each individual page that you want to save the link juice from or index at the new site (as Phresh said).

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You'll want to 301 redirect all the old URLs to the equivalent new URLs. There will be no penalty but a slight loss of link juice. Initially your traffic may dip but it should come back.
There is a significant loss IMO and there is no guarantee the traffic will come back. This is why Never move your URLs unless you have absolutely have to. On a small site, not as a big a deal but otherwise avoid at all costs.

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I'd also probably get some fresh links going to the new domain right away. Something like this on a dripfeed should give the new site a huge ass boost - http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/...nnovation.html
That is 100% black hat.
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03-21-2012 , 04:34 PM
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That is 100% black hat.
Up to the reader to decide. Basically there are thousands of social sites that let you create an account and list your favorite bookmarks. This automates that process for you x1000. You could do the same thing manually in 250 hours.
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03-21-2012 , 05:00 PM
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Up to the reader to decide. Basically there are thousands of social sites that let you create an account and list your favorite bookmarks. This automates that process for you x1000. You could do the same thing manually in 250 hours.
No they actually say openly Google penalizes their stuff, recommending that service for someone's site is not good. That's like saying smoke all the opium you want because it's natural, automating things that you can do manually can definitely qualify as blackhat. If you want to do blackhat hat for your stuff I make no judgement but someone might read that and get a website they can't afford to lose penalized.
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03-21-2012 , 06:52 PM
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I don't personally don't care what GoDaddy has done as a knee jerk reaction to public disapproval, I would still avoid them for a host of other reasons!
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This x 100. They are an awful company far apart from all the extra evil they're into, there are so so so many better alternatives. Over the years, I have used 8 domain registrars (that I can recall offhand - I'm sure there are a couple of others), and not one was even CLOSE to as bad as the customer experience with Godaddy. I mean not REMOTELY close.

(The unbelievably douchey CEO/founder is still hard at work for them btw, he only stepped down from the CEO title: "My job will pretty much continue as it has been".)
Ive been contemplating moving what i have registered at godaddy for sometime. ( my hosting is done elsewhere and i am pleased) My main concern is privacy, i want a seamless( NO loss of privacy) in the transition from one registrar to another. Obviously, i would like to have better CS and an interface that inst just a mess like godaddy.
Who do you guys use and like the best?

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03-21-2012 , 07:03 PM
I've been moving my domains to NameCheap for the same reason and it has been easy. Their support is great (so far) and they offer 1 year of free privacy when you switch.
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03-21-2012 , 07:37 PM
Heard good things about Namecheap too but haven't used them. I recently moved a couple to Hover.com and it seems good. Basically have heard them + Namecheap mentioned together a lot when ppl recommend places.

I actually do a lot of my current registering through resellerclub.com, signed up with them 6 or 7 years ago cause I needed an API and they were one of the only choices. I don't really know their current pricing, but I seem to be paying ~$9 when I register a domain, I may be on some legacy plan or something. Anyway if you have higher volume needs, or to resell to other people, I recommend them, never had any trouble, and they have promos pretty frequently where certain country domains will be cheap.
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03-22-2012 , 03:10 AM
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What are your guys thoughts on using content delivery networks?

What are some good indicators that it's needed? Measure in terms of GB/month or something else?

Will serving up streaming mp3 and mp4 files from apache/RoR significantly slow down server performance?

FWIW my server is currently hosted on rackspace.

Thanks for any insights/thoughts.
I have started to rebuild my poker training site this year and have moved all my videos over to Amazon's CDN - Cloudfront. This has greatly improved my streaming time and it is nice on my dedicated server bandwidth to not send long videos from my US server to Europe/Asia. Plus Amazon supports RTMP streaming which allows a video to play without buffering and you can jump to minute 40 of a video and it will play right away.

I also am using W3 Total Cache for my website, which allows me to set up essentially a cache of every page from my CDN, which has improved overall load time as well.

The price has been a lot lower than I expected and I only spend about $20 a month (yours may be a lot lower, most people only spend $2-$5). I was able to downgrade my server because of this and saved more than $150/month on that bill.

It took me a few days to figure out how to work everything, but there are some good tutorials I found with Google. Now that it is set up, I'm very happy that I did it. If I start any medium to large sized project in the next few years, I'm definitely integrating a CDN.

Here's a few pages from my site if you want to check out the video streaming or how a page with images would load. My new layout is very simple (and not completed yet) so it also helps the page speed; but you would see an even larger difference for a complicated, slow-loading website.

http://www.pokertrikz.com/videos/trikkur-3/
http://www.pokertrikz.com/videos/trikkur-4/
http://www.pokertrikz.com/articles/range-merging-guide/

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03-22-2012 , 07:08 AM
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No they actually say openly Google penalizes their stuff, recommending that service for someone's site is not good. That's like saying smoke all the opium you want because it's natural, automating things that you can do manually can definitely qualify as blackhat. If you want to do blackhat hat for your stuff I make no judgement but someone might read that and get a website they can't afford to lose penalized.
I agree with the first part (it's 100% blackhat) but not the second (you stand much of a chance of getting penalized). A $24 offensive tool to nuke your competitor's SERPs would be way top powerful. Sure, google is getting smarter and a lot of the juice might not pass through, but I don't think you're getting sandboxed for something like this.
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03-22-2012 , 07:33 AM
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I agree with the first part (it's 100% blackhat) but not the second (you stand much of a chance of getting penalized). A $24 offensive tool to nuke your competitor's SERPs would be way top powerful. Sure, google is getting smarter and a lot of the juice might not pass through, but I don't think you're getting sandboxed for something like this.
That very much depends on how you got caught based on your link profile you are correct but Google took down ALN very recently (seemingly too accurately without having a list) and has absolutely run link buying stings and acted on data accessed like this in the past. Furthermore, while one of these services in isolation is unlikely to result in a penalty (and unlikely to generate value compared to doing it manually) if this were scaled up penalties absolutely could happen.
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03-22-2012 , 09:26 AM
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I'd also probably get some fresh links going to the new domain right away. Something like this on a dripfeed should give the new site a huge ass boost - http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/...nnovation.html
Yeah I am not going to do that. This is the whole reason for getting a new domain. I used BMR on my old domain and I got a nice love letter from Google about unnatural links so people are getting penalized for unnatural links as I am proof of it. So will the redirect still work for a site that has a Google penalty and not carry over to the new site? If not I can just start over. Not that big of a deal. Live and learn.
I might just wait out the penatly also since the links have since been removed/are being removed.
Thanks for the responses so far guys.

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03-22-2012 , 10:04 AM
Ahh that's a lot more interesting of a question. To be perfectly honest you probably want to disassociate completely with that domain in terms of links, there is a bad neighborhood effect so it's better to start fresh. Saving content is iffy, I have no experience or data but to be completely safe I would ditch most of it and rewrite anything that was very valuable to you.
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03-22-2012 , 01:04 PM
There was a similar situation as this on the PAL (PokerAffiliateListings) forum and the general consensus was that 301 redirects SHOULD get rid of a penalty. There were people debating both sides of the issue; but one or two people had real examples of sites that were penalized and when they bought a new domain and 301'd the penalty was erased.

* Found the thread. It is probably worth your 5-10 minutes to read through this.
http://www.pokeraffiliatelistings.co...-wait-out.html
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03-22-2012 , 01:05 PM
Thanks Trikkur and Gullanian
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03-22-2012 , 02:09 PM
After trying to figure out wordpress and plugins and widgets and everything else, I finally got my website to a point where I think I might run an adwords campaign. Its a personal website for real estate in my city. Basically I will be trying to generate leads for buyers/sellers and to some extent renters.

My long term goal is to blog a ton and create a lot of content and ultimately not have to run an adwords campaign but I know that will take time and think the benefits of running a campaign will far outweigh the costs. One conversion could be 500-5k if they end up buying/selling/renting with me.

Would anyone be willing to take a look at my site and give me some feedback? I don't know what the rules are for postings a link to it here. Basically I'm looking to see if I set up the site structure well (I have 10-12 static pages and a blog) and any improvements I should make.

Please PM me of let me know if I can just post it here.
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03-22-2012 , 02:24 PM
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There was a similar situation as this on the PAL (PokerAffiliateListings) forum and the general consensus was that 301 redirects SHOULD get rid of a penalty. There were people debating both sides of the issue; but one or two people had real examples of sites that were penalized and when they bought a new domain and 301'd the penalty was erased.

* Found the thread. It is probably worth your 5-10 minutes to read through this.
http://www.pokeraffiliatelistings.co...-wait-out.html
Thanks for the link.
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03-22-2012 , 02:25 PM
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Thanks for the link.
+1 ty
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03-23-2012 , 01:45 AM
People apply the same principle when doing more questionable SEO tactics. Instead of putting their main domain in jeopardy, they SEO their second and third tier feeder sites and those sites in turn link up to the main site. If anything gets deindexed, it's the second/third level site.
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03-23-2012 , 11:50 AM
Anyone in London here's a good HN Meetup you should attend with Rand Fishkin:

http://www.meetup.com/HNLondon/events/57532592/

Only 35 tickets left (£5 each)
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03-23-2012 , 01:09 PM
Can anyone suggest a few publications or sites with good SEO information?
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03-24-2012 , 05:48 AM
http://www.seo-theory.com/ is by far my favorite of every SEO related blog. Michael Martinez knows his stuff even if it doesn't sound as fancy as some other advice you might hear. I've been into SEO for about 3.5 years now and I wish I would of done what Michael said from day 1 instead of waiting 2-3 years and then having to rebuild entire websites.

http://www.seobook.com/ is also pretty good and Aaron also gives practical advice most of hte time. Not all the articles are SEO related and he does a decent amount of Google analysis articles that cover changes in the SERPs etc.

http://www.pokerseo.org/ is technically geared towards poker specific sites, but a lot of the advice is generic and applies to all website building. Randy Ray has very similar tastes to Michael Martinez and as I already stated, I very much follow their philosophies since about mid-2011 and I wish I would of listened from the beginning.

You'll probably have a few people mention SEOmoz and while they are decent; I would actually avoid them. They used to be my #1 SEO blog, but they published some crappy, incorrect advice about nofollows a few years back. They claimed they had done multiple tests, etc and Google came out later and pretty much debunked all of the myths with it. There were also a few more small things that I personally believe they are wrong about, but they have some good basic info that you could find useful.
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