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High school diploma 80k/year  how? High school diploma 80k/year  how?

06-05-2012 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
You do not understand what expectation means. They teach it in college, for what it's worth!
Or maybe your just from an entirely different culture. Where I am from your statement doesn't really hold true....

Do you really need to hijack this guys thread because of your bitterness? I simply provided my experience to back his up.
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06-05-2012 , 01:35 PM
Waiting to hear more about this 100k a year job that you can learn taking a 3 week class. Sounds legit
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06-05-2012 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonfiction
Waiting to hear more about this 100k a year job that you can learn taking a 3 week class. Sounds legit
I haven't put the career field out there for a reason.... When you get paid 60k in per diem alone it doesn't sound so crazy. The per diem is not taxed on the recipients end but on the employer and contractors end. So we are already at clearing 60k.. tack on 30$ an hour and we clear 100k for the year.
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06-05-2012 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
In the States blue collar work tends to pay a lot less than it does in Canada. Canada also tends to pay professionals a lot less than their US equivalent. The result is that the range of pay is much more narrow and it is really hard to recover the opportunity cost of going to school.
100% agree with Henry here. Even more noticeable in Alberta.
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06-05-2012 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ukjw
Or maybe your just from an entirely different culture. Where I am from your statement doesn't really hold true....
Are you and your friend living/working in America?
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06-06-2012 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
Are you and your friend living/working in America?
Yes but when I said that I wasn't talking about my career field.. I am from a small town in WV. Outside of successful lawyers, doctors, ect. most people making good money have careers relating directly or indirectly to coal. That doesn't go for me, I have moved away from there.
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06-06-2012 , 03:35 AM
Start a painting business, grow weed, play $2/5 Thurs-Sat nights at playground casino.

edit: assuming you know how to play poker
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06-06-2012 , 09:23 PM
playground in chateaugay? well on the reserve just outside mercier bridge? its that bad?
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06-06-2012 , 09:48 PM
I've talked to a guy who comes to my work of place and we sometimes talk about money being made out in North Dakota. Seems like a service would be good says mobile food trucks are making a killing couple burritos drink $15. Try and call for couple weeks in advance for a tire change how about a hair cut again call week ahead.

Service jobs in these boom towns:

Food
Hair cutting ( maybe yr or less to graduate)
Mobile oil/tire changes (if possible)

The 1st two would be cash based which would be awesome 3 listed not sure how a setup like that would work.
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06-06-2012 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Eyecrazy2
Service jobs in these boom towns:
So why do you think they are charging so much? It's not just a new demand for burritos.

They are charging so much because no one is going to work for $8/hour making those burritos when they can go next door and get an oil job and make $2000/week. That is your competition for laborers. To even run a business, you need to pay a ton more for labor.
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06-06-2012 , 10:14 PM
Also, I was looking at these oil jobs.

It seems like they are 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. So you might take home 2K/week and that's great, but you end up sitting on your ass for half a month unless you get really lucky and find another rotation that will let you work the exact 2 weeks you have free from the first gig.

Or do they allow people to just work 4 weeks/month? It seems like a big waste of time and opportunity to be in middle of nowhere and only work 2 weeks per month.
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06-07-2012 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dc_publius
Also, I was looking at these oil jobs.

It seems like they are 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. So you might take home 2K/week and that's great, but you end up sitting on your ass for half a month unless you get really lucky and find another rotation that will let you work the exact 2 weeks you have free from the first gig.

Or do they allow people to just work 4 weeks/month? It seems like a big waste of time and opportunity to be in middle of nowhere and only work 2 weeks per month.
But you also gotta think your working 10+ hrs a day maybe closer to 14 and working on lil sleep for those 2 weeks and pretty sure ur not setting at a desk either lol
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06-07-2012 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Eyecrazy2
But you also gotta think your working 10+ hrs a day maybe closer to 14 and working on lil sleep for those 2 weeks and pretty sure ur not setting at a desk either lol
So how many hours do they actually work? The remaining hours are for sleep, and even with 14 hour days, that's 10 hours left.

These sorts of jobs are not "lifestyle jobs" and I think it's wrong to treat them as such. They are best for people who want to sacrifice X months of their lives to make a ton of money and then get out.

By taking 2 weeks off each month, they are basically wasting a big opportunity. Probably wasting their money buying overpriced junk in that town too, so they blow what could be a nice nest egg on frivolous spending and get 'stuck there'.
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06-07-2012 , 05:32 AM
Recently, One of my friend completed High School diploma. Now he is waiting for a good job in oil field company, What is the minimum percentage of marks are required to attend the job and If there is any experience is required or not. Please produce some more attachments about the topic to view detail information.

bakken oil companies
north dakota jobs oil fields
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06-07-2012 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dc_publius
So how many hours do they actually work? The remaining hours are for sleep, and even with 14 hour days, that's 10 hours left.

These sorts of jobs are not "lifestyle jobs" and I think it's wrong to treat them as such. They are best for people who want to sacrifice X months of their lives to make a ton of money and then get out.

By taking 2 weeks off each month, they are basically wasting a big opportunity. Probably wasting their money buying overpriced junk in that town too, so they blow what could be a nice nest egg on frivolous spending and get 'stuck there'.
you don't get the the mindset of shift working construction workers. The off time is more about physical body repair ( and the companies want the efficiency/productivity high) than a persons hrs worker.

I suppose its nice to naval gaze about the what a person needs or just should have, but until you've actually done the work............again, that's why the pay is high, too many theoretical types think they can analyze the situation where they could do the work/earn the money.

They are lifestyle jobs, a dirty, disgusting, wind blown, noisy, vibrating, hot, humid, cold, chemical.............. one in a hundred can last the day, let alone a week.
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06-07-2012 , 08:06 PM
I've tried to research the oil field jobs and haven't found too much except for vague stuff. Do you generally just have to go out there and apply in person?
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06-08-2012 , 05:50 AM
OP what kind of work are you interested in doing? A lot of people want fast/easy money without breaking their backs. If you want a sustainable "normal" career in something, you're most likely going to have to invest in school or some kind of career training + proven experience.

Construction is still pretty weak throughout most of the US. My gf is a cost estimator in commercial construction making about $80k, but she was out of the field for a year + when her old company went under. She has two bachelor's degrees in unrelated fields and ~12 years experience doing what she does now. And she didn't start at that salary.

There are lots of trades you can get into depending on where your strengths are, but you need to bring something to the table besides "decently smart and 25 years old." You're still at an age where you have a plenty of time to recoup an investment in education or a trade school.

Some of these oil jobs sound like the fisherman jobs up in Alaska. Kept hearing about how awesome they were and how much they paid, but the handful of people I knew that went after them either couldn't get their foot in the door, or didn't last very long doing the entry-level stuff they have you do.

There are exceptions but jobs that don't require real skills generally don't pay well, and the few that do are either very competitive or have some seriously ****ty drawbacks associated with them. My advice is to put career development ahead of a paycheck for the next couple of years and learn something useful. Figure out how to install HVAC or get apprenticed as a plumber, whatever. With some time and experience maybe you can parlay that into your own business. Just don't expect it overnight.
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06-08-2012 , 06:43 PM
Attempt sales before you go to into trades IMO. You'll find out pretty quickly if you are any good, and if you are good then education is mostly irrelevant aside from some technical sales jobs.
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06-13-2012 , 08:33 PM
As an oilfield worker myself(I'm 23), making 80k is super standard and 100k+ is pretty easy to do. I sometimes ask myself why I did not start sooner.
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06-14-2012 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypnotic in OK
As an oilfield worker myself(I'm 23), making 80k is super standard and 100k+ is pretty easy to do. I sometimes ask myself why I did not start sooner.
Can you write up your story and give some details?
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06-14-2012 , 03:07 AM
A friend I grew up with got his CDL in his early 20s, still at it after a dozen years or so. He does fairly well now hauling hazmat. He didn't make anywhere near the kind of money you'd need to sock away 50k/year early on though. Even if a person were inclined & able to live out of a company-owned truck you're still going to have some expenses to think about.

Plus there's 3 years of living out of a truck to consider. Nothing wrong with making money but at some point you have to think about what you're giving up to get it too.
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06-14-2012 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypnotic in OK
As an oilfield worker myself(I'm 23), making 80k is super standard and 100k+ is pretty easy to do. I sometimes ask myself why I did not start sooner.
Contract work in Afghanistan(or Iraq) is similar. You can make anywhere from 60k-400k a year depending on your skills/clearance/experience etc. Shelter and food is free, and tax free up to 92,000 (minimum 330+ days outside US). You end up banking most of that money.
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06-15-2012 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by yimc17
Contract work in Afghanistan(or Iraq) is similar. You can make anywhere from 60k-400k a year depending on your skills/clearance/experience etc. Shelter and food is free, and tax free up to 92,000 (minimum 330+ days outside US). You end up banking most of that money.
I had a friend who did this. The money was great and he had no issues with it despite the danger but it was pretty hard on the wife.
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06-15-2012 , 09:30 PM
Almost every company is winding down operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. Very few are hiring anybody, and when they are, they have their pick of the litter of all the guys with lots of Iraq/Afghanistan experience. This advice is few years too late.

These sorts of opportunities usually exist for very limited periods of time. As a kid, I remember adults going to Kuwait after '91 Iraq problems to fix the oil field fires for huge money. And ever since then, there were occasional, high paying opportunities of similar nature.

The question is, what is still hot right now? Or better yet, what is about to get hot?

(Iraq Afghanistan stuff has been cooling off for a few years now. It's a bit like trying to cash in on the poker boom... in 2012)
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06-15-2012 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ahnuld
go to north dakota and work in the oilfields.
Sweet talk a few desperate chicks in your closest city then head to ND and start a brothel close to the oil fields.
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