Interesting element is that the "no big deal" folks effectively help spread it to the vulnerable population. Sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

So 100k unreported cases.

But the TP thing is dumb yeah.

Living in one of the most landlocked, least traveled states results in some of the best takes on Facebook. One guy is convinced it's a Chinese biological weapon, "deathcount bro" guy, NBD single mother, coastal populations are "soft", thots and prayers abound, and so much more

media is on Trump HARD. I mean that's not new, but still. The spin on him is real.

Buy stuff people will actually use more of. Hand sanitizers, sanitizing wipes, Lysol, and so on. You can only use and hoard so much TP before you got enough to survive the apocalypse.

You could also just take a shower after taking a dump. Works fine.

No one seems to want to stock up on snickers, more for me. Its the perfect apocalypse food.

Wow hadn't heard that they cancelled Ultra. I guess Coachella is next.

I think Coachella may be 75% to cancel. What odds you guys put on something drastic for March Madness?

Elon Musk says ‘the coronavirus panic is dumb’


From the second paragraph -

"Musk does not have a background in medicine or virology."

Sporting events will still run, just without a crowd.

Crowded music festivals should be axed. I cant imagine a better way to spread a virus, especially with a bunch of hippies.

sxsw cancelled. trump will probably be pissed.

This is a mistake Tooth. What is true is that many claims of expertise are nonsense or very weak. This is true particularly in economics and wherever politicians or organisations are the ones claiming to speak of the expertise.

However epidemiologists are experts in epidemiology and any who are working on Corona/similar virus types are going to be way way better informed than you or I. Thinking we know better than those experts is idiocy.

The problem is how much filtering there is between these experts and what we hear. Those filters are mostly straightforward politics and lack of comprehension by the people between us and what the experts are saying. Prof Whitty is competent to understand what he is being told the experts but some political filtering is to be expected. Even so his statement was qualified which is a good sign and it's very unlikely he is directly contradicting the experts for some political reason.

Also TS, I asked this in politics but got no answer. Maybe you or someone else here knows.

People compare to flu death rates but from what I've read, and I'm no expert, flu death rates are the deaths to those who present with symptoms ratio while with corona we often (maybe not always?) seem to be talking about the deaths to infected ratio.

Anyone clear this up for me?

Coronavirus death rates so far are deaths/confirmed (almost entirely by finding the virus’ rna). Flu death rates are deaths/estimated infected.

CONEXPO still happening next week in Vegas....Volvo has pulled out. Large Canadian/Toronto area firms have pulled out (Lafarge, Aecon, Con Drain, Dufferin/CRH).

That being said, local media is ridiculous. They are making each infection out to be World War Z. Toronto is up to 11 now and one guy rode transit for 4 days. It's ****ing everywhere, deal with it and wash your hands.

Anyone seeing peak infection time in this wave being different than mar 25 to April 15 give or take? Thinking there's a nice setup to fade a small rally.

I suppose deaths we add 3 weeks so mid April into May.

Lol US government just published their estimates for impact to their travel industry over next 3 months. Wanna hazard a guess on the % drop?

It's actually Hilarious

“The Atlantic contacts all 50 state health departments to reconstruct the number the CDC is hiding, and finds that 1,895 people have been tested for the coronavirus in the US.”






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For those of us who aren't psychic, could you maybe give a link or something?

No link, being passed down verbally.

They're telling departments 6%. Lol.

6% of the next decade's revenue might be a reasonable guess

Pence press conference:

- 46 tested on Grand Princess cruise ship off coast of Cali., 21 positive (19 crew, 2 passengers), re-routing to non-commercial port to test everyone

- all state labs now have the test and can conduct themselves; 900K distributed; by end of next week 4M shipped total EDIT: this is a swab test not PCR, but they say it is "high quality"

- two commercial labs (Labcorp and Quest) rolling out test Monday

- tests broadly available to US public within weeks

- elderly people or those with underlying disease should use common sense, in particular avoid travel

Basically what happened is what I said before, we had no procedures in place to ramp up fast. FDA is institutionally built to do everything slowly and over long periods of time. It's just not in their institutional DNA to suddenly approve private and state labs to do their own tests. It should have been Pence/Trump's job to just be like "wtf? Just let them do it." But of course we know how the White House is.

As soon as someone at FDA realized they probably should just, in essence, flip the switch to let the thousands (literally thousands) of private and state labs conduct the tests, we ramped up in a real hurry. We're going to be testing thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, a day by the end of next week.

It's fairly obvious now that we're all going to catch it at some stage, and most of us are going to live through it. From a selfish, individual pov, the sooner we become infected, the more chance we have of receiving good and dedicated treatment to help us make a quick and full recovery, before the masses are left to fend totally for themselves.

Get out there and enjoy doing all your usual daily stuff: take deep breaths; shake hands; kiss strangers; lick handrails.

If you survive, you can thank me later.

Good luck.

This was the prognosis experts not invested in preventing panic (CDC/Chinese/WHO employees basically) from very early on.

As for the rest... I am honestly inclined to agree. But I still can't help and reach for the sanitizer whenever I leave the subway or touch a bathroom doorknob. I had that habit before Covid-19 was a thing though.

This just isn't true unless you think you're a stone lock to get it around the peak if you don't get it early