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03-24-2020 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Trump just tweeted he wants people going back to work.
Has Trump or the federal government formally kept people from work? Hasn't that all been on the state level anyway?
03-24-2020 , 11:18 AM
No way the Don said he wants people going back to work. He said, "Our people want to go back to work."

cough*coward*cough
03-24-2020 , 11:49 AM
Our people want to return to work. They will practice Social Distancing and all else, and Seniors will be watched over protectively & lovingly. We can do two things together. THE CURE CANNOT BE WORSE (by far) THAN THE PROBLEM! Congress MUST ACT NOW. We will come back strong! - Donald Trump

This nonsense needs to stop, roughly 2 - 4% of 20 - 44 year olds are requiring an ICU. What happens when young people fill the ICU beds? The young will end up being left to die just like we are seeing in Italy. You can't let this virus exponentially grow within a population, it will be pure horror.
03-24-2020 , 12:05 PM
In a slightly amusing, but probably not too surprising anecdote; my wife works in a health clinic and hospital in CA, and none of the medical personnel are allowed to wear N95 masks per CDC guidelines. However, she says a lot of the patients come in wearing their own.

They are also all under lock and key now, but she said for a long time doctors were raiding them for their personal stockpiles, so they are very short even by normal standards.
03-24-2020 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
In a slightly amusing, but probably not too surprising anecdote; my wife works in a health clinic and hospital in CA, and none of the medical personnel are allowed to wear N95 masks per CDC guidelines. However, she says a lot of the patients come in wearing their own.

They are also all under lock and key now, but she said for a long time doctors were raiding them for their personal stockpiles, so they are very short even by normal standards.
Why is this? Also, have not done to much research on this, but check this out.

https://www.omaha.com/livewellnebras...c4cc2c8d1.html
03-24-2020 , 12:24 PM
Yawn. Simpsons foretold this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ATxwXSvKo
03-24-2020 , 12:38 PM
Not sure where to put this but looks like Fauci is gone. Pence on now talking about how Dr Burk is the leading expert. No mentions of Fauci. Agree with Trump on however he is feeling that day or you are gone.
03-24-2020 , 12:47 PM
I'm getting seriously depressed when I think about the USA. It seems like we're not even close to the capabilities of the East Asian countries... we tried a shutdown, pretty much half assed it and now Trump wants to give up. Are we just a disaster like Italy waiting to happen, or is there any positive way to look at the USA?
03-24-2020 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by momentum
I'm getting seriously depressed when I think about the USA. It seems like we're not even close to the capabilities of the East Asian countries... we tried a shutdown, pretty much half assed it and now Trump wants to give up. Are we just a disaster like Italy waiting to happen, or is there any positive way to look at the USA?
We are going to look much worse then Italy.
03-24-2020 , 12:58 PM
Has anyone found details on the us Canada travel ban?

Lots of news reports after trumps tweet but o cant tell if there was any follow through.
03-24-2020 , 01:10 PM
Trump said in presser more people could die from economic turmoil / work shutdown than from corona if people went back to work soon. No way it's true but guaranteed to become the rallying cry of nothingburgers
03-24-2020 , 01:20 PM
"In response to coronavirus, @realDonaldTrump
says we lose 37,000 people a year to the flu and we never turn the country off and we have thousands of car accidents but we don't tell companies to stop making cars.

"We have to get back to work!"
- Donald Trump

HOLY ****ING ****. Can we get an epidemiologist in the white house please?
03-24-2020 , 01:30 PM
Trump says the country needs to be opened back up by Easter. 2.5 weeks from now.
03-24-2020 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
Trump says the country needs to be opened back up by Easter. 2.5 weeks from now.
Is that the day that Jesus - along with all of the dead Covid-5 victims - will rise from their graves?
03-24-2020 , 01:46 PM
Did they just say 28% of those tested in New York are positive for Corona? That seems very high, it must be everywhere.

Last edited by a_r_K; 03-24-2020 at 01:51 PM.
03-24-2020 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Seedless00
Why is this? Also, have not done to much research on this, but check this out.

https://www.omaha.com/livewellnebras...c4cc2c8d1.html
Ostensibly it is because it is not indicated by the CDC, and doctors are supposed to follow CDC indications. The real reason is that there is such a shortage of masks, they need to save them for critical care areas. So the rest of the hospital, where assuredly positive health personnel and patients are walking around with various levels of symptoms, no masks.

Last edited by Kelhus100; 03-24-2020 at 02:05 PM.
03-24-2020 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by a_r_K
Did they just say 28% of those tested in New York are positive for Corona? That seems very high, it must be everywhere.
Increase the # of tests and test primarily people already with symptoms. Of course its going to be high.
03-24-2020 , 02:01 PM
I said over a month ago at some point we'll be desensitized and just accept the deaths. I underestimated how little people understood what a new and worse version of the flu sweeping the world for the first time (before herd immunity) can do.

The best we can realistically (let's face it, shutting all of us indoors for rest of the year just isn't going to happen) do is flattening the curve and buying some time to build ventilators/PPE.

For everyone pinning his/her hops on the vaccine:
1. Only about 50% of Americans get flu vaccines (THANKS ANTI-VAXXERS)
2. Vaccines will not be 100% effective
3. The virus is contagious, but not deadly enough to bypass a lot of the human trials, except MAYBE (this is for experts) for old people and people with co-morbidity factors.

Anti-viral treatments are even more farfetched. Gilead's drug hasn't been shown to be particularly effective vs. Ebola and even if the drug has some therapeutic value, it is obviously not a wonder drug or we'd know by now after administering the drug to hundreds of patients.

That we're reaching for anti-malarial meds with side effects known to be devastating should give you strong indications that we just don't have good candidates for treatment beyond helping the patients breath and allowing their immune systems to fight the disease off.
03-24-2020 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by IHuntItuShipIt
Increase the # of tests and test primarily people already with symptoms. Of course its going to be high.
Its still crazy high New York in deep trouble. Its everywhere already and hospitals could be war zone in 2-3 weeks.
03-24-2020 , 02:18 PM
I cannot believe Florida (Ron Desantis) hasn't issued stay at home orders yet, I mean I guess I can believe it but wow seems insane. Florida will be bad.
03-24-2020 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
then how many boomers do u think this thing kills? i'm going off of taking the number of at-risk individuals in the US, figuring how many get infected, and then applying the 1-2% death rate for that population. ~100M are at-risk, prob 70% get infected, and 1-2% die. that gets you 700k-1.4M. 1M is not an incredibly wrong guess.

it's like when tooth left everyone now adopts the policy of saying "you are wrong" and doesnt provide data to back it up. i'm debating w facebook moms.
You seem to be incorrectly applying what you think the global CFR is for all age groups, to one (high risk) age group.



https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/
03-24-2020 , 02:24 PM
If Trump's goal is ultimately to protect shareholders, do you guys feel like he's been doing anything wrong?
03-24-2020 , 02:33 PM
I think if Trumps ultimate goal is to protect shareholders then he is doing something wrong
03-24-2020 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gov. Cuomo
'The rate of increase has gone up. We have the most sophisticated people you can get doing projects on this. They’ve been studying projections from China, South Korea, Italy, places all across this country. And what they’re now seeing is the rate of new infections is doubling every 3 days. That is a dramatic increase in the rate of infection. And this whole discussion all along has been how fast does the rate of increase spread, and can we slow the rate of increase. We’re not slowing it, and it is accelerating on its own. One of the forecasters said to me, “We were looking at a freight train coming across the country; we’re now looking at a bullet train…"

We had projected the apex at 110,000 hospital beds; the new projection is 140,000 beds and 40,000 ICU beds… the current number of hospital beds in NY is 53,000 and 3,000 ICU beds...

If we don't get the ventilators in 14 days it does us no good; we are looking at an apex in 14 days.
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03-24-2020 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Keloika
If Trump's goal is ultimately to protect shareholders, do you guys feel like he's been doing anything wrong?
The market says yes.

      
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