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08-16-2017 , 09:03 AM
Try reading the relevant subforum or using the search feature.

I don't think you're an expert or have an opinion that should be shared on the subject btw. Your biggest problem is not knowing any real winners.
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08-16-2017 , 12:31 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1075

Relevant post of a high stakes bettor saying Nitrogen stole his money by claiming he was a "syndicate".

I would guess that if you're not a high stakes bettor who moves lines that you probably will be OK with Nitrogen but it's something to be aware of.
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08-16-2017 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by invictus-1
you are a poser because you vehemently made strong claims and you were not willing to back them up by following through with a bet the terms of which could have been discussed to resolve the lack of trust between the betting parties.
So because I don't escrow for 10+ years on a maximum 50/50 bet, I'm a poser? You're high as a kite bro. Mentally ill person made an offer to bet, I ignored him. The end.
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those claims also turned out to be wrong (as you have admitted already). that literally makes you a poser.
Here we go. You lying again. I made no claims that turned out to be wrong. I said - voluntarily just now that it at $4000 - that I probably would sold at $1500 and that it's gone (slightly) higher than I expected. That's the opposite of posing, that's pure honestly.

I'm not sure why you are so obsessed with me. It's not a good look. Please post again in a few months and claim that I wasn't bullish on Bitcoin at $250, so I can quote myself calling for a strong buy that is now a 16 bagger. Thanks. If I was going to make a gimmick account to attack me and make me look good, I'd pattern it after you, friend.
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08-16-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Cauthon
You need to input name and full address. Then you also need to verify a phone number by typing in a code you receive by sms. If you don't do any trades, deposits or withdrawals with USD, that get's you withdrawals of up to 3 BTC per day.

If you decide to lie on any of those entries, that's a risk/reward calculation you will have to do on your own. They might ask you for further identification, and then you're ****ed. If you want to stay as anonymous as possible, you should use TOR as well.

Thanks for the reply. I had no idea you need to put your name. What is TOR?
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08-16-2017 , 04:37 PM
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Thanks for the reply. I had no idea you need to put your name. What is TOR?
I might have been thinking about Bittrex actually. I get them mixed up sometimes. In that case, Hitbtc doesn't need as much information.

TOR is a technology for using the Internet more anonymously. If you're paranoid you might think that the exchange will save the IP:s you use to log in to their site (they most certainly will log that), and that they will at some point give that information to some government agency that you don't want to have that information. Depends on why you would want to stay anonymous, and how large you deem this risk to be.
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08-16-2017 , 05:37 PM
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Hey all to anyone that has used hitbtc i have questions and curious about this exchange. ....

Thanks.
I have used HIBTC for a few brief trades and it has low fees and worked fine. I am reluctant to use them a lot because they do not reveal their legal location.

Bittrex (las vegas) has worked well too. Mostly I use Kraken now since i'm in the US and verified. But I don't endorse anybody.
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08-16-2017 , 06:47 PM
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08-16-2017 , 08:05 PM
I am struggling very badly with the process of obtaining my private codes from blockchain.info and importing them into electron cash wallet to claim my BCC. At this point I am willing to pay someone to help me so if you are an expert, trustworthy, and want to make a little money by chatting with me on teamviewer send me a PM.
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08-16-2017 , 08:57 PM
are you able to get get a 12-word phrase ? maybe by exporting a backup file? then you can enter that 12-word phrase into another software. if you're trying to split btc and bch, i found coinomi on my android to be pretty simple for this. hope that helps. if its on the right track, but you need more info, pm me.
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08-16-2017 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bucktotal
are you able to get get a 12-word phrase ? maybe by exporting a backup file? then you can enter that 12-word phrase into another software. if you're trying to split btc and bch, i found coinomi on my android to be pretty simple for this. hope that helps. if its on the right track, but you need more info, pm me.
Pm sent. I don't have android device.
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08-17-2017 , 01:51 PM
I see a lot of daytrading sites. I might be wrong. But i want to invest mainly longterm. Where is the best place for long term in btc and alt.
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08-17-2017 , 02:41 PM
Fees out of control again at $5/tx. People opposing the 2x fork are crazy. We'll see $10 fees before this is all said and done. Segwit and lightning network are not going to fix things overnight.
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08-17-2017 , 02:50 PM
I understand now i guess. U send them over to ur wallet...
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08-17-2017 , 03:13 PM
Someone please let me know if I'm missing a step or important security measure for retrieving my Bcash

1. Get my 12word seed from my blockchain wallet iPhone app. (Never use this wallet again because the seed/backup words have been exposed)
2. Send all my bitcoin to a new wallet(not sure if this shouldn't be done 1st but I already had the 12word backup)
3. Load the 12 backup words to an electrum BCash wallet on my PC

I'm not sure if I'm missing anything. It seems like I'm supposed to download the blockchain ledger to find my BCash but maybe electrum does that step for me.

Sorry if I'm using terms that aren't exactly technically correct. I'm trying to make it as simple and easy to understand as possible for myself or anyone else needing help.
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08-17-2017 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by andr3w321
Fees out of control again at $5/tx. People opposing the 2x fork are crazy. We'll see $10 fees before this is all said and done. Segwit and lightning network are not going to fix things overnight.
The main argument against 2x fork is that no one is working on it and Garzik seems completely over his head on the time table established.

Also things like this today help breed distrust of 2x implementation:
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/sta...05684789125121
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08-18-2017 , 04:46 AM
Trying to exchange skrill for paypal.

Could I do Skrill->bitcoin->virtual bitcoin debit card-> paypal?

I assume buying with skrill is relatively safe, is localbitcoins my best option?

And UQUID a good card to use?
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08-18-2017 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by valuecutting
Trying to exchange skrill for paypal.

Could I do Skrill->bitcoin->virtual bitcoin debit card-> paypal?

I assume buying with skrill is relatively safe, is localbitcoins my best option?

And UQUID a good card to use?
You will lose like 25% in fees if you do this
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08-18-2017 , 10:47 AM
Any wallets supporting BCH yet? I have my private keys from a Copay wallet from before the fork and would like to try to retrieve my BCH and sell it.
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08-18-2017 , 11:54 AM
Nothing wrong with a $5 fee. Mildly amusing going back and reading the comments about people insisting you could send money anonymously for free anywhere! Guess this is what happens when people don't understand the underlying technology at all.

BTC isn't gonna be for poor people much like the current banking system. No one wants to provide a tool for poor people without any meaningful amounts of money to send money.
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08-18-2017 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
Nothing wrong with a $5 fee. Mildly amusing going back and reading the comments about people insisting you could send money anonymously for free anywhere! Guess this is what happens when people don't understand the underlying technology at all.

BTC isn't gonna be for poor people much like the current banking system. No one wants to provide a tool for poor people without any meaningful amounts of money to send money.
Proof of reward
I just made that up does that exist?
MTL
Look up Metal, that is poor mans blockchain

There is lots of poor man blockchains.

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08-18-2017 , 12:53 PM
B-cash up 50% in the last 24hrs. It's achieved mining profitability parity with bitcoin and they're clearing blocks is the reason as far as I can tell.
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08-18-2017 , 01:03 PM
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Any wallets supporting BCH yet? I have my private keys from a Copay wallet from before the fork and would like to try to retrieve my BCH and sell it.
I have been working on this for 2 days. It was very tricky to get the private keys from blockchain.info. But if you have your private keys it should be very easy to use Coinomi wallet and restore it. I am only modestly computer literate but this
is what I did.

1. send all BTC out of the account to trezor or another wallet. Make sure you have your 12 word recovery. This can be found under settings in Blockchain
2. You need an Android phone
3. go to app store and download Coinomi wallet and install
4. go to create wallet from backup and input 12 words (should also be able to use private codes)
5. create BCH account when given choice of coins (we also did BTC which was helpful since we saw like 2 dollars in there we knew we restored the wallet correctly)
6. under advanced setting we change the derivation path to M/44H/0H/OH as discussed here

https://medium.com/@coinomi/collecti...s-44fcc6008bb6
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08-18-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
Nothing wrong with a $5 fee. Mildly amusing going back and reading the comments about people insisting you could send money anonymously for free anywhere! Guess this is what happens when people don't understand the underlying technology at all.

BTC isn't gonna be for poor people much like the current banking system. No one wants to provide a tool for poor people without any meaningful amounts of money to send money.
Wrong.

A higher blocksize or payment channels will definitely make transactions cheaper. Yes, there is no "free" in terms of "no price to pay". There's simply another price to pay - you have to trust either miners or whoever runs the payment channel. Or off-chain like coinbase for that sake.
If the chance of fraud were 0,001% instead of 0,00000000000001% and people could pay $0,5 instead of $5, we all know what they would do.

Some people say BTC is good enough as is and does not need to improve in order to survive. No way to prove or disprove, only the future will show.
However, I do doubt. Long term, black market, and gambling as the only use cases suck since those people need normal users to cover and provide plausible deniability. Right now speculators take that role. I doubt that's a long-term solution tho.

You will not have this type of hockey stick growth curve forever. Out of the gazillions that join BTC right now (to get rich quick), of course, there will be enough to pay a high transaction fee. But that's not sustainable nor a sign of a healthy system. Just like taking a pain killer isn't solving any problem, you just buy time.

I can't evaluate which scaling solution is better, but if for some reason I knew that transactions can't possibly be cheaper no matter which solution, then BTC would be dead from my pov.
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08-18-2017 , 04:19 PM
The problem with $5 fees is it forces people to use cheaper options. Once lightning network is widely available for use as that cheaper option it will still be BTC just layer 2 BTC so it won't hurt adoption, growth or price of BTC. However, right now those cheaper options are mostly ETH and maybe Litecoin. This causes BTC/ETH price to rise which causes the growth that would have gone to BTC to flow elsewhere. The rise of Ethereum and Litecoin is directly related to BTC's failure to scale IMO. I'm not a big fan of Roger Ver or BCH but he has a point here https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/897835663147515905

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08-18-2017 , 04:22 PM
As long as I am able to acquire enough coins to make my transactions I don't care about the price of BTC. It appears many of you are shoehorning speculation based arguments and trying to apply it to people who actually use BTC.
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