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07-22-2014 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chabra
Do you bitcoin bulls believe that bitcoin will replace credit cards or even be competitive with them as a payment option?

I'm building a new PC and today I bought all my PC parts from Newegg and Amazon. On Newegg I saw they had an option to pay for Bitcoin so I decided to try that out, since I have never bought anything with BTC before. Anyway it took me 10 mins to figure out how to complete the payment. Ofc in the future I'll know how to do it faster and it'll be easier. But checkout on Amazon I just used my credit card and it was a breeze. I just don't see how BTC is an improvement over what we have now. Not to mention CC's are much safer for the consumer.
Why not mention the 10% off for using BTC? Is that not an advantage?
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07-22-2014 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
Well I would also say the libertarian point of view is bad in theory, and bad in practise as well so it beats that.
Only when you assume that libertarian means no regulation ever.
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07-22-2014 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Happy_Fish
Only when you assume that libertarian means no regulation ever.
True, I thought most were though, which I guess is my ignorance. Are you a libertarian and what level of state do you support? The only libertarians I've run into are ones who seem to want everything to be privatised including social welfare, hospitals etc which I think is an awful idea.

Most people in Europe are shocked at the resistance Obama care received, for me it just comes down to a matter of empathy, do you want to pay to help those in need or not.

Last edited by Gullanian; 07-22-2014 at 05:42 PM.
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07-22-2014 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
Well thanks for contributing nothing except arrogance, probably better to not bother next time.
It's fine if you feel that way, I don't mind. You're generally one of the better BFI posters and I'm sure you're a smart guy in real life.

However, you made an argument and offered as support something which you don't understand very well. Not great.
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07-22-2014 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
True, I thought most were though, which I guess is my ignorance. Are you a libertarian and what level of state do you support? The only libertarians I've run into are ones who seem to want everything to be privatised including social welfare, hospitals etc which I think is an awful idea.

Most people in Europe are shocked at the resistance Obama care received, for me it just comes down to a matter of empathy, do you want to pay to help those in need or not.
I find myself voting libertarian, although I think mostly because the government is incompetent (at best). Gary Johnson would get my vote in a heartbeat this election cycle, no matter what party he ran under.

If I could wave a magic wand and dictate policy, I would first eliminate the drug war and America's bloated "defense" budget. Then eliminate corporate welfare, the surveillance state and get the government out of areas they should not be in (ie, online poker!). When it comes to health care I would try to remove the layers that come between doctor and patient, and eliminate the policies that artificially reduce the number of doctors. Hopefully that would reduce the cost of "routine" health care to the point where it could be purchased like any other service, and return "insurance" to coverage for major illnesses.

After those major steps were taken, then it could be time to get into the more philosophical issues, such as min. wage or privatized social security.

Edit: as an aside to your last comment, "Obamacare" is terrible because it mixes the worst of both public and private systems. Single-payer would be by far better for the people, but would also cost MUCH more for the government. (This is where the savings of the drug war/defense budget could go)
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07-23-2014 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
for me it just comes down to a matter of empathy, do you want to pay to help those in need or not.
If you had empathy you might have considered that libertarians might be libertarians because they feel empathy and think libertarianism is the best way to help.

Imo wanting to help but hurt is a hell lot less empathic than laissez faire. Sending people to jail to help people not do drugs is one example of this, other include bailouts, subsidies, minimum wage, taxi medallions etc etc.
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07-23-2014 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by heltok
If you had empathy you might have considered that libertarians might be libertarians because they feel empathy and think libertarianism is the best way to help.

Imo wanting to help but hurt is a hell lot less empathic than laissez faire. Sending people to jail to help people not do drugs is one example of this, other include bailouts, subsidies, minimum wage, taxi medallions etc etc.
Exactly. One can only take so many "Uber/Lyft" stories before they start questioning the "actual" purpose of many of the government's regulations. The BTC guidelines from NY are a perfect example. They were drawn up from a desire to entrench existing power, not regulate the market in an efficient manner.
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07-23-2014 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Happy_Fish
Why not mention the 10% off for using BTC? Is that not an advantage?
10% off? I'm not aware of any discount like this. Can you please explain this or post a link? I know CC's charge the merchant fees, but it's nowhere near 10%, so I don't see where a discount of that much can come from. From what I've seen, merchants haven't even been offering consumers discounts for using BTC even though that is supposedly cheaper for them.
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07-23-2014 , 02:06 PM
http://www.newegg.com/bitcoin
10% off sale.. up to $100 only... but ya know... not bad.

i bought a tablet there with bitcoin the first week... yay!
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07-23-2014 , 02:40 PM
ty buck

Edit to add some content about regulations I guess: http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/23/ne...seems-to-think

Last edited by Happy_Fish; 07-23-2014 at 02:52 PM.
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07-23-2014 , 05:46 PM
wow I didn't know about that promo. I could've saved myself $10! Anyway thanks for the info.
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07-24-2014 , 07:36 AM
Anyone know why Chrome does this for me?



Compromised PC/Network (I find it unlikely), or some royal Paypal screw up? I'd like to think my PC/Network is safe, and I'd also like to think Paypal is doing some business with Bitpay and they might of just had a screw up!
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07-24-2014 , 09:29 AM
Looks like I might of been targeted for an attack, am updating router firmware and going back to factory settings.
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07-24-2014 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
True, I thought most were though, which I guess is my ignorance. Are you a libertarian and what level of state do you support? The only libertarians I've run into are ones who seem to want everything to be privatised including social welfare, hospitals etc which I think is an awful idea.

Most people in Europe are shocked at the resistance Obama care received, for me it just comes down to a matter of empathy, do you want to pay to help those in need or not.
You can also be for regulations, but not be in favor of a monopoly on regulations.
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07-24-2014 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
Anyone know why Chrome does this for me?



Compromised PC/Network (I find it unlikely), or some royal Paypal screw up? I'd like to think my PC/Network is safe, and I'd also like to think Paypal is doing some business with Bitpay and they might of just had a screw up!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comm...ficate_issued/

FIXED
Changed my DNS to Google's (8.8.8.8) and it loads fine now. Does that mean my ISP's DNS is compromised? Or just buggy?
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07-24-2014 , 04:59 PM
Not a real fix though, something is wrong and on SuperUser:
http://superuser.com/questions/78738...-to-bitpay-com

Some people are saying it looks really suspect
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07-24-2014 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
You can also be for regulations, but not be in favor of a monopoly on regulations.
How does that work? (Feel free to link me to something that explains it)
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07-24-2014 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bucktotal
http://www.newegg.com/bitcoin
10% off sale.. up to $100 only... but ya know... not bad.

i bought a tablet there with bitcoin the first week... yay!
I haven't looked at Newegg but dell had a similar promo and I was under the impression it was save 10% up to $100, not on purchases up to $100. If im mistaken then this promo is pretty meh as i can just go to best buy and save $10 via no shipping.
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07-24-2014 , 09:40 PM
It is a max of $100 in savings.
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07-24-2014 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
How does that work? (Feel free to link me to something that explains it)
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Ma...f_Freedom_.pdf

Check out the "POLICE, COURTS, AND LAWS—ON THE MARKET" chapter for a brief overview of how it might work theoretically.
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07-25-2014 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
How does that work? (Feel free to link me to something that explains it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods
http://ul.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
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07-26-2014 , 03:43 PM
Want $8k BTC.. will send Stars

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/30.../#post44111744
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07-27-2014 , 02:53 AM
Good timing! Hope u find a seller...
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07-27-2014 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
How does that work? (Feel free to link me to something that explains it)
Lots of people choose to live with an HOA in their neighborhood. You can pick the level of regulations and penalties you want to live under when you buy a home.
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07-27-2014 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by maxtower
Lots of people choose to live with an HOA in their neighborhood. You can pick the level of regulations and penalties you want to live under when you buy a home.
decentralization of power back as close as it can get to citizens. what a crazy idea.
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