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01-16-2018 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
Forgive my ignorance but how does 100M drastically alter a 185B entity?
So $100m can buy ~9,000 btc, and the average order book has around 1 coin on the offer
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01-16-2018 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buffyslayer1
what do we think bottom will be? 8k seems quite easy to hit now maybe even 5k
The bottom is clearly 0.
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01-16-2018 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
Forgive my ignorance but how does 100M drastically alter a 185B entity?
1. Bitcoin isn’t an entity.

2. 100m is significant in relation to the amount traded daily.

IMO any technicians charting this that sees this as a buying opportunity are lying to themselves. $6k within days.
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01-16-2018 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
The bottom is clearly 0.
well to be fair so is every investment in the world that isn't a life survival necessity.
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01-16-2018 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by XMember
Lots of analysis of this. Here is an easy synopsis.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-bit...37df&srid=nTCh
I'd always wondered why USDT had such high volume. I love a good massive fraud story! popcorn.jpg
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01-16-2018 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
Lol, you are such a loser



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01-16-2018 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
1. Bitcoin isn’t an entity.

2. 100m is significant in relation to the amount traded daily.

IMO any technicians charting this that sees this as a buying opportunity are lying to themselves. $6k within days.
I'm sure you're right and everything but... 0.5% of BTCs 24hr trading volume is significant? The market as a whole has risen 100 billion since the recent bottom and you guys are blaming it on 100M worth of tether. Just seems crazy to me.
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01-16-2018 , 08:21 PM
for every 1$ increase in price, market cap goes up 20million. Do you think it takes 20 million to make price go up 1$?
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01-16-2018 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
for every 1$ increase in price, market cap goes up 20million. Do you think it takes 20 million to make price go up 1$?
Well if there is less than 20mil willing to sell before it goes up $1..yes.

Market cap has zero to do with setting a price of a commodity. Strictly supply and demand. There is no underlying book value or earnings.
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01-16-2018 , 08:39 PM
"Market cap" of bitcoin is literally price x supply
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01-16-2018 , 08:50 PM
Lol. Ok. Demand in relation to market cap to set price must be new. My bad
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01-16-2018 , 08:58 PM
I think coordi is agreeing with you, bigworm.
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01-16-2018 , 10:05 PM
Trying to be patient. I don't think we've seen the last of $10,000 BTC. That would be way too easy.
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01-16-2018 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo



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cant lose if u dont sell!!!

8.5 area is thin and might need test - if it goes significantly below this will be teh first time my heartbeat will slightly increase!
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01-16-2018 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BGnight
Trying to be patient. I don't think we've seen the last of $10,000 BTC. That would be way too easy.
Agreed. Looks like potential bottom and everyone's hoping storms over but as you say to easy... I'm looking for one last dip to ETH: $770 / Bitcoin: $8k. God knows how low that will take my alts hah.

Last edited by a_r_K; 01-16-2018 at 10:37 PM.
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01-16-2018 , 11:04 PM
Anyone think flash crash down to 1-2k is possible this year? Could make lot of sense considering all the newbie money recently entering the market and ridiculous valuations of some of the alts. Hope no ones investing money they cant afford to lose!
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01-16-2018 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
What's a decent place for real time where my identity won't be stolen?

I'm looking at this turd (3rd anal/poo reference): https://www.coindesk.com/price/


I heard today that places like coinbase were glitching like mad, Canadians having banking frozen, etc...

What's reliable if coinbase isn't?
bitcointicker.co
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01-16-2018 , 11:10 PM
Some huge, negative news would have to happen for that. You could see 4000 if you're lucky.
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01-16-2018 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Cauthon
Some huge, negative news would have to happen for that. You could see 4000 if you're lucky.
What huge positive news caused the move up?
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01-17-2018 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
What huge positive news caused the move up?
First of all, I never said that. Secondly, successful deployment of segwit, beat down of 2X take over attempt, and introduction of regulated futures markets were some pretty big, positive news. But mostly it was pent up hype from the last four years.

It's in a price bubble right now, but that doesn't mean it will fall as low as $2000. Many more people, organizations, and capital has invested in the last year, and had a taste for higher prices. Lots of progress has been made on the underlying technology. Maybe the floor is as low as 1000-2000, but I think there is enough interest on the sidelines to prop up the price until it's worth more.
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01-17-2018 , 12:12 AM
Warren Buffet prob went allin today. wp wb
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01-17-2018 , 12:16 AM
When the REAL panic sets in, it will fall fast. A Trump tweet would do it.
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01-17-2018 , 12:36 AM
With China shutting down miners the cost to produce a bitcoin in western countries can easily be $3K+ now and that's after the upfront capex investment in equipment. Add on some utility factor and you get a pretty firm support floor. Anything over that is demand driven.
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01-17-2018 , 12:39 AM
currently it seems hard to expect rapid gains when exchanges are not able to be as loose with customer signups, and some are closing the business. most governments will be pushing for id verification.
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01-17-2018 , 01:21 AM
the "value" of btc is about $800 a coin (its how far the demand of criminal activity will get you and thats ALL that bitcoin is good for). the rest is speculation and idiocy. the value of every other coin put together is about 0.
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