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11-09-2016 , 05:06 PM

#3601

DoctorZangief

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Well I lost about 40 cents of value when I panic sold CGC at 9:30:01 but rebought 120% the shares at 7.47. Hit a new high again. Blind mouse etc. Still think this will be the #1 name in the fastest growing industry in Canada.

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11-09-2016 , 05:14 PM

#3602

Jupiter0

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Originally Posted by fanmail

Someone explain why treasuries are taking the ass whipping today and stocks go from -5% to +1.5%. Wild.

i think its just the rate hike coming or idea of one

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11-09-2016 , 05:24 PM

#3603

rafiki

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How does someone like Icahn buy 1B in stocks around 4-5am? I guess they have access to literally anything they want any time they want? NH if that story is true.

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11-09-2016 , 05:27 PM

#3604

fanmail

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Maybe over the counter swaps on S&P with Asian/Euro firms in the middle of their business day, maybe just clicked a mouse on some futures as well.

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11-09-2016 , 08:08 PM

#3605

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Originally Posted by rafiki

How does someone like Icahn buy 1B in stocks around 4-5am? I guess they have access to literally anything they want any time they want? NH if that story is true.

I figured he just bought eminis, which were pretty liquid all night

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11-09-2016 , 08:37 PM

#3606

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Originally Posted by Shuffle

There is a very good chance that the UST regime that has been in place since 1981 just ended last night

Good chance based on what?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk

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11-09-2016 , 09:39 PM

#3607

Clayton

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Originally Posted by rafiki

How does someone like Icahn buy 1B in stocks around 4-5am? I guess they have access to literally anything they want any time they want? NH if that story is true.

1B notional is around 9000 contracts in the futures i think. not even sure you're allowed to have that much on. these are questions you can only consider once you have a billion dollar bankroll

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11-09-2016 , 09:43 PM

#3608

rafiki

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Regardless of whatever economic and monetary policies Trump tries to push through, the takeaway from last night is that the people are taking back control of the Treasury. The Trump administration will either assist that phenomenon or be replaced by someone else who will. This was the end of the passive, centrist electorate, and the end of a long, secular deflationary regime.

We are going to see increased spending that reaches the population at large. Higher interest rates and higher inflation are on the horizon for many years to come.

What's the best way to profit in that environment outside of real estate?

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11-09-2016 , 11:10 PM

#3609

ASAP17

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I feel like the inherent disorganization of threads makes it hard to have a real conversation. What names & sectors do you like now that the GOP is in control?

We saw some clear inflows today in a lot of the expected places (given the outcome) like defense, biotech. Banks & utilities went opposite directions as rates went crazy (s/o Myrna). I guess my major ? is what can we expect from inflation? Trump's policies require trillions & he wants tax cuts (for business as well as income). Which of the consensus moves are you fading (hospitals were crushed for instance due to the idea of no more Obamacare)?

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11-09-2016 , 11:22 PM

#3610

Smokey_The_Bear

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I may need to swear off trading forever after the last two days. That is all

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11-10-2016 , 05:38 AM

#3611

xplosiVxx

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Originally Posted by rafiki

How does someone like Icahn buy 1B in stocks around 4-5am? I guess they have access to literally anything they want any time they want? NH if that story is true.

I don't know and I don't care. But I'm really taking into consideration buying IEP.

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11-10-2016 , 06:03 AM

#3612

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Originally Posted by Shuffle

Huh?

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11-10-2016 , 06:09 AM

#3613

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Originally Posted by Clayton

1B notional is around 9000 contracts in the futures i think. not even sure you're allowed to have that much on. these are questions you can only consider once you have a billion dollar bankroll

60k contracts is the limit:
http://www.cmegroup.com/market-regul...on-limits.html

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11-10-2016 , 08:36 AM

#3614

rafiki

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Why do the markets like Trump so much for defense? I always assumed Clinton was the bigger war machine.

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11-10-2016 , 08:41 AM

#3615

skidge

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Trump referenced aging defence equipment several times in speeches. Fighter jets was an example I heard more than a few times from him.

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11-10-2016 , 08:46 AM

#3616

ToothSayer

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He ran on a platform of revitalizing the "depleted" military

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11-10-2016 , 09:29 AM

#3617

daChimp

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Let's not forget improving infrastructure... May play some construction equipment & companies. But need to do my DD first.

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11-10-2016 , 09:40 AM

#3618

skidge

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Also... what the hell happens if he gets rid of NAFTA?

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11-10-2016 , 10:15 AM

#3619

wopbabalubop

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Originally Posted by skidge

Also... what the hell happens if he gets rid of NAFTA?

The price of Canadian tomatoes and Mexican strawberries sold at Walmart skyrocket.

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11-10-2016 , 10:23 AM

#3620

rafiki

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Man long biotech post Trump is turning into one of the 10 best trades of the year. Didn't buy enough yesterday. Was so close to pulling the trigger on GILD and passed, no idea why. Did buy back into TLGT which is doing great. Curious to see how IBB closes today.

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11-10-2016 , 11:19 AM

#3621

rafiki

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Got in CRBP at 6.45 after seeing this. Thanks for the heads up.

What did you ever wind up doing with this? I just sold all my 6.85 shares (largest position) in one account and took the 7% loss there (which feels like a huge dodge after what happened). But I've got a bunch in a tax sheltered one at 4.95 that I want to take to the binary event.

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11-10-2016 , 11:39 AM

#3622

skidge

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Originally Posted by DoctorZangief

Man I hate CGC.. (but only because of penis envy). I missed or gave away every opportunity to make anything on it.

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11-10-2016 , 11:44 AM

#3623

rafiki

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Any comments on what's happening with FB?

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11-10-2016 , 11:53 AM

#3624

ToothSayer

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Everything is getting killed in tech. My theory is that it's a rotation into new hot Trump-favored sectors, big money moving across. Add in a bit of fear and doubt and I think that explains it.

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11-10-2016 , 12:11 PM

#3625

daChimp

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer

Everything is getting killed in tech. My theory is that it's a rotation into new hot Trump-favored sectors, big money moving across. Add in a bit of fear and doubt and I think that explains it.

Watch VUZI, reports AM. Really like where they are heading for Small Cap.

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