Sound summoner! Let me first write as I read and then il write a review for you to compare this too...

-You didn't apply your perceived range to the preflop calculation... As you are so tight, the villains will not be so likely to continue with hands like AJo KQo, and, as you say they will be raising AK. I think improving hands are a much more likely holding. PPs most likely... Suited connectors or suited A too but less likely.

- You didn't note that, due to the BBs excellent price, and without anybody left to act behind him. His calling range would be somewhat wider than the SBs.

- The range you give is too big for the small blind. We want to look at the villains stats in each seat, for each exact move. I reckon this guy would CC from the sb only about 10% of the time.

PPs, account for about 0.5% of total range each.
Non PPs, about 1.5% each.

-You have written very little about each decision. (Don't worry all new guys do this). Really, for about this much text you should have reviewed just one of our decisions while here we have covered 4.

-The aim of this task is not to review an entire hand. We only want to review one decision. (All decisions follow the same process). We should write a short introduction to describe how we reached our initial ranges but then we want to follow the guidelines to write one decisions perfect review.

-You havnt considered the future for any of the decisions.

- Be very very wary of thinking- 'he may not be thinking at all'. Or, 'my range isn't imprortant here'. Even if it's just on a subconscious level pretty much every one thinks up to level 2 thoughts... We always go to level 3 unless it's a very special occasion.

-Postflop, we need to assign ratios to the groups of hands so that we can work out whether we have the right price to continue... We miss 1/2 the time, we hit TP+ 1/2 the time etc etc.

-In general, if you wrote both ranges more clearly you would see the correct move much more easily.

-You didnt add anything relating the betsize to the ranges.

...All that was negative stuff, don't be disheartened, that's what were here for... Still though, let me end with a couple good points...

I was very impressed by the way you removed hands from the villains range which he would have raised with!

You have quite a bit of level 3 in there, usually it takes me ages to get people to start writing level 3 factors!

That was the best first attempt at a perfect review that I ever read. Kudos.

So now il write one for you to compare... (Dinner first)

Turn decision..

Our Perceived range flop call...
A7s-ATs 2/10 ish
AJ+ 6/10 ish
Sets 1/10 ish
Bluffs 1/10 or less probably

Therefore...

Villains range turn bet...
AJ 1/10
AQ 2/10
2P+ 6/10
Bluffs 1/10 or less probably

(We are getting 3:1. We would need to beat 1/4 of the villains range, if there was no future, to break even.)

Call..
Our perceived range will become AJ+.
-Value;
-We do beat about 1/3 of the villains range right now. We don't see any more future profit from these hands... We will almost always see an extra bet from 2P+ in the future but we could fold if we think he wouldn't bet AQ for value again.. We have 3 good river cards which make us more than we would lose to the sets.

Raise...
Our perceived range now becomes AK+... So...

-Folds; Villain will now usually fold AQ and below, a little over 1/3 of the range.
- Value; We are giving the villains 2P+ extra winnings right now, (weakening our odds proportionately). We can check back the river but he may donk or re-raise. The Q on the river is weaker for us now too.

Conclusion... This is a really close one on all accounts. A call now actually does look slightly profitable, but we would have to be planning to fold to the river bet.. If we were calling the river then it would be a fold on the turn.

Note how I roughly write out all the ranges and the maths... At the tables, the more accurate these ranges and odds the better. Accuracy is the second most important thing for us and we will become more accurate as our poker career progresses. First though, we have to learn to follow all the steps.

hm Interesting process , when the ranges are very wide what are you doing? do you say for example 0.30 for suited aces i beat and 0.70 for suited aces that i dont beat? because based on your process it seems useless to assign ratios on group of hands which you both beat and lose against. Also you seem to default on 10% for bluffs and nut hands when you are unsure , are these numbers accurate?

This assigning ratio process looks cool. I would like to see you analyze a very wide range situation with this process , i gave you a very tight one

Yeah that's right again.. What were looking for is the hands we beat compared to the hands we lose against. It'd be nice if all villains ranges could be split easily like this. Unfortunately, there are also; draws, made hands we beat with draws, made hands we lose to with draws, split pots*. Also, different individual hands offer different values due to the future... I find it much easier to group the hands differently each time. Notice how I don't make a split for the 2P and the sets. They all beat us so they don't need splitting into smaller groups.

This is actually one of the smallest ranges I've ever had to deal with. Usually, the ranges will start wider and then become smaller as the hand progresses. One of the beautiful things about poker is that, as you need to consider the hands in more detail, the ranges become smaller and more manageable... So, preflop, it doesn't matter much whether the villain has more Kx or Qx, we can just say he has a 20% opening range. But then, as the flop comes Kxx, we look closer and see at how often the K appears in his range.

To create any of these ranges perfectly is impossible. We just guess to the best of our ability... The 10% I gave as bluffs is usually the lowest I would ever go to for bluffs, although, these regs are really fishy and so we can drop it even lower. I took that figure from one of harringtons books. He said, the villains pretty much always have atleast 10% bluffs. The flop donk could be a bluff 10% of the time, this leads us to think that the turn could be a bluff too.

It's not that I'm unsure what ratio of his range is the nuts or bluffs... (Although I'm always technically unsure)... I just understand that we need to leave a margin for error. The figures I give are my best guesses off the top of my head.... Be aware that it makes us much more money to play one level ahead of the villain than it does to get his range and the maths perfect. I've always been a lazy player, £50 an hr was enough for me. If the decision is really close I often don't bother working out the correct option, I just randomly guess or use this decision as to manipulate my image at the table. For instance, on this turn, I wouldn't bother working out which option made me the most money as it's so close. There's only pennies difference. Instead, I might choose to raise just to annoy the villain or to put some more hands in my perceived range next time I raise. On this turn, I would probably have made the call just so that I could write a note on the villains donk.. They rarely mix up donks, so if it's weak value now, it will be weak value next time too. This is worth much more money than the pennies we might make extra from a fold.

In short, the bigger the range, the more hazily I will consider it. The more detail you go into the better. If a hand appears which we did not put in the villain range even hazily, then we have made a mistake.

HUD and holes.

I had 20 stats on my front HUD on HM for each villain. Then on the main pop up I had 4 tabs with a total of about 80 more stats. Roughly 100 total.

Level 2; From these stats, we try to work out what the villain is doing with his range. We could also look for holes in his game.

Each villain is a different puzzle for us to solve. What's he 3 betting with? Where are his bluffs? We build a picture in our mind of what each player likes to do with his range.. As always, the more accurate the better but really were just guessing.

Holes...
We become aware of the break even point in each stat. For example, if they fold to around 50% of Cbets then they probably don't have much of a hole. Anywhere above 60% or below 40% and we can exploit this stat by either pushing wide for value or pushing more bluffs. About all players have holes up until the $100 cash games... GTO type players are familiar with this style of exploiting I'm sure.

Stats arn't so useful at level 3, although, we do love the 'vs me stats'. We use them to a see if the villain thinks we have any holes... Nowadays I just check my own HUD once a month or so to make sure I haven't developed any.

Some players deliberately leave holes in there stats. They are not necessarily level 3 players. They are often good level 2 players. They are quite often LAGs. These guys are usually full of tricks, be careful when playing their game, its like stepping into a spiders lair.. On the upside, we can take loooads of cash from these guys once we become proficient at level 3 and start avoiding our perceived range.

Small sample size isn't the demon many people think it is. We just need to be aware that the sample is small. The stats help us guess. More hands make it more accurate information, but any information is better than none.

How do we become aware of the break even point in each stat? Is that part of the perfect thought process?

You need to follow the villain range from the beginning;

If the villain is tight preflop, he will comfortably be able to Cbet lots and still have a balanced range. While if a player is loose preflop, but is still cbetting lots, then we can be pretty sure that these bets contain too many bluffs.

If the villain has around an equal amount of bluffs - value then there is no hole in his game. This doesn't mean we can't still exploit the level of the player!

I could look through some stats for some players for you, to point out the holes if you like? It's easy to do if you can follow the villains range.

This is just a way to utilise the thought process. I guess we are preplanning our plays as to exploit a situational mistake which the villain is unaware of.

It doesn't seem all that helpful to just say that, for example, 50% fold to cbet is the correct number. I was hoping you might provide some reasoning as to where that number comes from and how or why it might change.

SB: $163.23 (163.2 bb)
3b blinds about 30% vs my BU/CO steal... Overall check raise of 10%. I been firing/raising him alot in 3bet pots.
BB: $117.46 (117.5 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $272.89 (272.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $227.88 (227.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 T
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.43, SB raises to $9, BB folds, Hero calls $6.57

Flop: ($19) T 8 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.61, SB raises to $154.23 and is all-in, Hero calls $144.62

I'll post my reasoning in about an hour or 2 I have to go right now

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What is big blind like?

I probably don't open T5s pre-flop here if the small blind is 3betting me 30% of the time.

You may already know this, but briefly:

Say villain cbets 75% of the pot. Just as an example the pot is 20 so villain's cbet is 15. The breakeven point for villain is if hero folds 42.9% of the time.

20x - 15(1 - x) = 0
20x - 15 + 15x = 0
35x = 15
x = .429
.429 = 42.9%

Therefore, to prevent villain from making an immediate profit on his cbet with his worst hand hero must defend vs. the cbet 57.1% of the time.

It can be recalculated for different cbet sizes.

Much better answer than I could have written ^^

Remember that the standard HUD only gives us the average number, it doesn't account for the different cards. We still have to work out how the numbers on our HUD relate to the different boards or ranges.

I haven't read all of the posts made by Yadoula cause i just can't get myself to... But i have yet to read anything that isn't just a very very complicated way of describing basic stuff :/

At the same time, i do think its really valuable to write out your entire thought process about a hand and have others give feedback on how you could think differently about a situation. This is much more valuable than the typical discussion of just saying "id call" " easy raise", etc... But if you really want to help beginning players, you're going to need to learn a less complicated way of conveying your ideas and giving players some clarity. Not rely on the language you use and how complicated it sounds to convince players that you know what you're talking about.

This is a great exercise in loads of ways. The idea is that you write your own perfect review of a simple (exploitative) decision.

Polsk's perfect review! Etc etc.

Im looking forward to your first perfect review jubjub.. This will be a great spot to discuss the hand grouping.

We want as much info on the SB as possible too ideally. With my old students we would send screen shots of allll that villains stats along with each perfect review. The more stats or info the better.

Creating a range from the stats is like playing soduku. Any soduku player knows that at the end, when you have worked out most the numbers, it becomes easy to fill in the gaps. Well that's the same when working out a villains range. The check raise stat is most important in order to work out the villains range in this spot, but the Cbet stat helps too, so does the check/fold stat. All stats and info help in some respect, can never have too many.

Just wanted to say thanks for the outlook. Great advice that I am immediately implementing into my game. The only issue I feel i am going to have a problem with is that I play in such cheap games that my opponents range is overwhelming large preflop, I realize raising will narrow their range but with blinds at .25/.50 an average raise is between 3$ and 5$ preflop and there is just too many bad calls and way too much over calling. I plan on going up in stakes soon so hopefully this should take care of the problem or at least thin it out dramatically.

With the outline given I figure I won't have to follow all the steps as my opponents are amateurs who are just there for a night out so it's rare for them to even make it to step 2.

Once again thanks! Very helpful for the future as I plan on playing better opponents who will definitely be thinking along the steps mentioned above, I just have to make sure I'm one step further then them. Thanks

BB 3b around 10%. both fold vs me around 50% of the time post flop.

My reasoning for calling this on the flop. By this time my opponent is probably really frustated and stopped thinking about my range as much as he did before. I'm prety sure on this table at the time I was playing around 35/28 or something. He is most likely doing this with all his Nut FD even K/Q high FD. Pretty much most of his range will be draws. Even against the top of his range I'm still not completely dead. So against JJ-AA I still have lots of outs while against his draws I'm ahead. I bet the flop because he will put me on draws alot of the time on this board and I can get value from AK/AQ type hands even KQ. He will be calling with lower PP as well. I have position and so it makes it easier for me as well to get him to fold marginal hands or take lines to get thin value from him.

I'm just open folding pre-flop.

I don't think it is a good idea to open as wide as T5s on the button when the sb is 3betting you 30% of the time and the bb is 3betting you 10% of the time, particularly if neither of them are big fish who will significantly overvalue hands and pay you off too much post-flop when you do make something. Or at least I wouldn't do it.



EDIT:

T5s probably wouldn't be in my defend vs. 3bet range so if I opened ti and got 3bet I would probably be folding.

they fold lots post flop. 50-55%ish vs me in srp pot 3bp was a little lower but only by a few percent. They pretty much put money in and fit or fold. With his 30% range he rarely hits the flop hard enough to play back at me. He doesn't float oop with over cards. I'm playing very exploitable vs him because post flop he's very exploitable. If he were better I would open less and defend less.

Maybe my logic is flawed tho

50% to 55% doesn't seem like that much to me; doesn't seem like it is so exploitable to make it profitable for you to open/call a 3bet with a hand like T5s. I didn't make any attempt to do any math here though.

I'm sure its around 40% to break even if you are betting 60%. I was betting 50% in 3bet pots so its closer to 30%.