this is rediculous.. if coaching didn't work.. it wouldn't exsist simple as that... i've read too many threads on here and elsewhere from people getting coached... and paying a nice penny for it too.. sweating a session is ALOT different then reading a book imho.. if i can get a big enough roll going that my poker will pay for a session or two.. i will deffinately do it!.. i've had a few charity sweat sessinos for the micros and they were great!

I am sure there are a grip of people who would love to take you up on a HU challenge. I however am not one of them. I am not a HU player but I'm sure once someone reads through this they will bust your roll pretty quickly.

So like guys, I took some golf lessons the other day and went out and shot 120 on my local muni. Can I sue after just one lesson, or do I have to wait until I've had multiple lessons? Also, should I start playing nicer courses so that when I do sue him and win, my reward will be larger? I don't know how much I can get if I stick to the 10 dollar courses, plus the drink girls are cuter at the more expensive places.

I've always found it interesting why some people are unwilling to pay an equal amount in value for the information and knowledge they will receive. I think it has something to do with the fact that they feel they are owed something more than what they are willing to give. For the most part OP, I think you are resisting progression by resisting learning, and you're resisting learning by putting in the minimum effort required. This can only yield mediocre results in the long run. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Most people eventually find a comfort zone and stick to it, and OP, you have every right to stick to yours.

However, to say that coaching is a such a waste of monies is a fairly big assumption to make. The problem however, is not the content of your comment, but the fact that you're making it at all (not to mention in the coaching forum to top it off)

Are you speaking from experience? If you are, you should just tell us about your experience. If you're not, then why bother sharing this opinion with us at all? What exactly is your point?

You're not providing any evidence, but this is the one place where you'll find people telling you how much coaching HAS benefited them lol. DUCY?

Taking legal advice from someone who spells words "urself", "shud", "wud" and "oppurtunity" is -EV

Coaching has never been a benefit to people who can't learn.

lol, odd and irrelevent analogy

[ ] poker = golf

nice point, well done.

You know you have owned the arguement when ppl start bringing ur spelling up!

Let me just clarify my position:

1, People who coach on a regular basis are NOT top players, they do it because they cant beat the games nemore, ldo
2, People who pay for coaching are tricked into doing it by a bunch of people like you lot, who all coach and support each other so that u can all make a bit of monies for ur irrelevent and easy to access knowledge
3, I KNOW that there are potential legal issues with offering coaching, when u may not be able to improve somebodys game as u r promising
4, I will challenge any coach to a hu game, 4 tbls.
5, coaches charge stupidly high rates! it really is insane!

Ihatelosing, I have coached before. I accept your HU challenge. 4 tables, NL with a big blind of $50 as you specified. What is your screenname on Stars and when do we begin?

LOL, you'd have a better shot at winning a suit against your barber for a bad haircut.

lol my bankroll is only $1523 so i dont think i can afford a big blind of $50. Nice one though mate!

I will play u 4 tables of big blind $2 tho. i am happy to risk my whole bankroll vs u, just to try and teach u a lesson.

Let me know, or scared???

this challenge is open to anyone. Nl$200 or less, 4 tables i am happy to play u untill i go broke or u guys go broke.

O, and btw, i am right about what i say in this thread, and nobody has even come close to making a good counter arguement, they just insult or abuse me cos they cant win a proper discussion

gg guys

Put up or shut up

You obviously chose to ignore what I said because it actually made sense.

Also, your HU challenge doesn't really prove much of anything, whether you win or lose what does that have to do with someones ability to coach and the benefits of coaching? That is what you're trying to say here right? Paying for coaching is ******ed. Remember? How does playing you HU show us that coaching is good or bad?

Come up with something relevant to defend your opinion with some element of truth or gtfo and ramble in BBV or NVG.

i agree with everything OP says.

...what were you saying about your bankroll? -
*http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...-nl100-417404/
*http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56...t=#post8866278

...and what were you saying about coaching being "******ed" and "coaches not being able to beat any tables"?
*http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56...t=#post8866462

stfugtfo.

/thread

I have a long line students who'd disagree rather strongly with the OP.

I am sure there are many other coaches with many profitable students.

ok, so the thread has been derailled by the hu challenge, so lets forget that!

paying money for coaching is ******ed. Better and free info can be found and worked for by looking at ur hands and using forums/discussing hands with friends

/thread

i want direct explanations to the following:

1) You claim to have a $1523 bankroll, but claim to have won $9600 less than 5 weeks ago, as well as win "24 bb/100 hands... 175k hands at $500 and above". Explain.

*http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...-nl100-417404/
*http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...t=#post8866278

2) You say "coaches are only coaches because they can't beat the tables", yet claim to be a "sick coach" and offer your services to someone while implying that it could be beneficial to them. Are you trying to scam them of their money...or can you 'just not beat the tables'? Explain.
*http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...t=#post8866462

Someone ban this troll-tard already.
Game. Set. Match.

i was joking about winrates and the 9600. if u cant tell this then u r silly i think

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

ahh, yes. "joking"...right...you are ASKING for me to make you look like a fool. So I shall do just that:



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IHateLosing...you have just lost. Go get your pathological lying issues sorted out and stop spewing crap and making claims you can't back. Trolls suck. The end.

LOL HU4ROLZ I wanna see this, let me know when it's on and I'll be railing.

Good luck OP, you are as entertaining as you may be ignorant.

I wish you all the best in the HU4ROLZ challenge.

Broker

i am ready for it, i just need a challenger

DUCY you cannot beat micro stakes?

another gem from OP (who can't play a $25/$50 challenge because his roll is only $1500)...

Wow going from a $40,000 to $1.5k roll would put me on life tilt too. This thread makes more sense now. lol