Hi, I am Jason.

I am a winning player at uNL and a decent winner at 100nl lifetime. I have a great concept of the game and have been playing forever. I've been around the community, had many successful stakes as well as one that failed... I am a member at 3 online coaching sites and talk poker strategy with quite a few friends daily.

Right now I am on a stake due to real life (I started a career and had a one month pay lapse) and am playing 50NL 6-9 tabling and feel really good about my game.

Quite honestly I don't feel that I need coaching to beat these levels for a good rate. But I think my services would be appreciated as far as hearing your discussion about things and offering my input on your ability to coach/adapt/communicate and make a player think on different levels.

So I think it would be cool and helpful to others and myself, to establish myself as an unbiased reviewer of your abilities to charge people money for coaching. We can do any form of coaching you wish whether video reviews together or alone, sweat sessions, hh' reviews through email (txt) format or anything else you would like.

Afterward I will discuss with you my review of the session and post it in your thread. All reviews will be tasteful but honest.

Hope this generates some interest.

How selfless of you to offer your time to receive free coaching. well done

That's like going out and letting all the porn stars give you BJs and you'll tell them how well they did.

What an offer.

I have actually seen threads where guys had no coaching experience and wanted feedback...

This thread is awesome lol. Cant wait to see how it turns out

best.analogy.ever

have you ever been coached before?

this is pretty interesting concept.
I think you should prolly pay the coaches some money though.
I"m thinking about coaching some ppl a little. My problem is:
I dont use poker tracker or any tracking software. So my reputation = PTR, videos, ppl's word, etc.....

maybe team up w/ some other 2+2ers or seomthing.
Say 3 of u buy 1 hour of coaching or something (for a discount). So the coach would offer u $45 instead of his usual $60. Then u guys each pay $15. Get the 1 hour, and post 3 reviews.

I think it is actually a decent concept. I know for a fact that some people just post refs for friends etc and have no actual basis for their comments. There is a big difference between knowing someone and being coached by someone.

A very good friend of mine has a thread in here coaching 45 mans. His feedback and the amount of time his thread spends on the front page is pretty impressive compared to seeing famous names drop off the front page and rarely return. I sweated with him for years, talk hands all the time etc. But I would have never posted in his thread without knowing that his ability to coach is impressive.

I have 10 more pokering buddies that I chat/talk/sweat etc over AIM and other avenues, who are all good players and long term winners. But I cant say that I would vouch for them coaching if they made threads.

There is a big difference between sweating, talking hands and coaching. Coaching involves completely different objectives and the coaches approach and personality really effect how much information you can fit into an hour or two, and what kind of quality this information contains.

So I don't think it is a bad idea at all really. Now you could have 1-3 people to work with. When you are done you have unbiased reviews of your ability to charge money so you can teach people how to play poker.

I know if you are a coach you have read the forums and gone over hands in whatever forum. I also know that you have seen 8435793987453 stupid responses to how to play a hand. Some have been my own.

But in a forum this large, I don't see anything wrong with a little quality control at all.

When some CR/DC/Stox... whatever site pro comes in here and starts a thread they don't need this. But everyday there is some guy who posts some screen shots and says I want to start coaching for more income.

So we know he can play, but can he coach to a level worth his hourly?

But I can say that I would do what you are suggesting in some format...

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For an april joke it is somewhat too late

[x] OP is looking for free coaching

I agree that it would be nice to have some sort of review system for the coaches, so that it's not a shot in the dark. However, there is a reason they have celebrities judge stripper contests, and that's why everyone is laughing at you.

Create a small site (or even a free blog) and pay for say 6 coaching sessions from 6 different coaches.

Then post reviews on each coach and see to what extent your feedback is helping students, if at all.

If you can show that your opinion/review carries any weight, myself along with at least another handful of coaches would be very interested in receiving feedback on our value. But until then, this seems like it would only benefit yourself and not many coaches. A few new coaches could potentially benefit from a good review, but they could just price their services half off or something until they got the necessary positive reviews to warrant interest at their regular rate.

Basically, why give somebody a free session unless you know their review is going to carry a lot of weight? If you don't have enough reviews, ask your students to review you. If you don't have enough students, you should lower your rate or stop coaching, etc.

This sort of thing seems like a really good idea actually, if someone were interested in putting it together.

I may start this now actually, Blog should be up tomorrow. And I have some coaches I will contact soon too.

what a joke.

Can I be the official generosity reviewer of 2p2? Just ship monies and I'll give an unbiased review of how generous you are.

Seems like a good idea to me. I coach. 1 hour, keep in mind, my first session is usually you washing my car - think Karate Kid, wax on, wax off. Let me know when you're available for the first lesson.

What about Tom Sawyer? Maybe you could give him white washing lessons.

Would I get to pay you for this lesson too lol

There's good idea there which would benefit the good coaches as well.Perhaps 2 + 2 could certify coaches to sort out the wheat from the chaff.

Yeah, coaching is not free. Except for op, who gets to review.

I actually don't think this is a bad idea either. I've looked over a decent amount of reviews for coaches (and have coached SSNL in the past on another site and debated trying it here) and people pretty much only give good reviews. Since just about everyone gives good reviews, I tend to not give reviews any weight unless it's from someone I know I can trust and is likely better than me.

The problem is in order to give a good assessment of someone's coaching abilities, you'd probably have to be at least as good or better than the person coaching. This is probably the main reason why most reviews people post are good reviews, because NL$25 or NL$50 players can't always even tell if they're getting poor advice or being explained incorrect concepts from a bad NL$200 or NL$400 player. You will undoubtedly have some idea if your coach doesn't care or can't even explain why he takes a line, but I really doubt a uNL giy is going to be able to accurately judge the quality of the advice he's getting from players who play several stakes higher than him.

Long story short, I actually think this idea would be better if a MSNLer had had SSNL coach pay to sweat him while he plays SSNL or uNL and intentionally make mistakes and sees if the SSNL coach will correct him and explain why. So maybe try that idea if you start beating SSNL and have the guys who want to coach uNL pay you to give them a review. (though I have no idea if there's any market for this, though I think there should be. If an SSNL coach gets a horrible review from the MSNL guy, he should at least be able to help the SSNL guy with his game by saying "Why didn't you correct me when I did xxxx" or "Your reasoning for xxxx is wrong")