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05-17-2024 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WPT Global Peter


We have satellites/feeders to each $1,060 Day 1 flight. Just to confirm I was not going crazy, I had a look back on yesterday's results, and what ran:

2x $1,060 Day 1 Flights

4x Feeders into the above, with $110 BIs - each guaranteeing 5 $1,060 seats

4x Feeders into the above, with $11 BIs - each guaranteeing 5 $110 seats

There were more in the lobby, but they did not get the minimum amount of players to start

We also have a $33 BI satellite each day, which awards at least 1 $1,060 ticket

Regarding more flights, it is counter-productive, as they would just end up getting 10-20 registrations each or not start (already a concern for the upcoming $3,500 $1M guaranteed)



These are the start times (Eastern Timezone) of the $1,060 Day 1 flights, and we like to have overall event start times from 04:00-20:30 ET to allow some sleep during a long grind
I appreciate the info. I think it's just a timezone thing. As you said before, the sats run before a day 1. You cannot unreg to bank your ticket and select your day 1 (you have to play the next one) which is something I will consider for next series and plan accordingly.
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05-17-2024 , 11:47 AM
Almost forgot .... Please, add an option in software "always decline insurance offer" for those who prefer not to use it, because it will save time for everyone and will not distract . Thank you. !
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05-17-2024 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cassolete
Almost forgot .... Please, add an option in software "always decline insurance offer" for those who prefer not to use it, because it will save time for everyone and will not distract . Thank you. !
And also a box "always accept insurance offer" for those who prefer to use it.
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05-18-2024 , 05:24 AM
I dont like the request for automatic time bank or longer time banks etc.

If you dont have enough time for 2-5% of decisions then you are playing too many tables imo.

Some of the suggestions in this thread are bad for the game imo.

The less like stars, party and GG, the better imo.

By far the most pressing issue is the stability of the client.
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05-18-2024 , 07:34 AM
Just 4 more flights to get into Day 2 of our $1,060 WPT Prime with a $750,000 guarantee! Satellites & feeders are running all day for today's flights!!




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Originally Posted by cassolete
Almost forgot .... Please, add an option in software "always decline insurance offer" for those who prefer not to use it, because it will save time for everyone and will not distract . Thank you. !
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And also a box "always accept insurance offer" for those who prefer to use it.

Both sent across, thanks!
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05-18-2024 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WPT Global Alex
As part of our deal with WPT we have access to a group of ambassadors which are shared with other WPT brands - the tour itself, ClubWPT, LearnWPT, etc. We know that some of the time, they will be in the USA, e.g. while they play a WPT event.

We don't have a gambling licence in the US, so if we want our ambassadors to promote us while they are there, we have to ensure that they are not gambling. Under US law, gambling requires three things - a) chance; b) consideration; c) prize.

Obviously, there's chance in poker - nothing we can do about that.

Consideration - we can take this away by ensuring that the ambassadors do not pay anything or risk their own money. So they're not allowed to deposit.

Prize - we can also take this away, by not allowing them to keep anything they win.

Without consideration or a prize, the ambassadors are clearly not gambling, and this legal principle holds up in many other countries as well, not just the USA.
So what you're saying is to make this "legal" you have house players, playing with house money, taking money from customers, and returning it to the house?

WOW...
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05-19-2024 , 07:01 AM
Over $1,200,000 is guaranteed today in our Spring Festival, which includes $750,000 in our $1,060 WPT Prime event. There are 2 final flights to get into Day 2, with the next starting in ~2 hours. Tons of feeders are available to these 2 flights

We also have our first $3,500 WPT Championship flight this evening, where $1,000,000 is guaranteed to be awarded in next Sunday's Day 2. There is a $530 BI feeder to this at 17:15 UTC-5, with many smaller feeders to get into the $530

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05-20-2024 , 02:37 AM
What's the decision time and timebank in plo5 tables? It's very short, why is it like that? Any plans to make it slower?
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05-20-2024 , 08:11 AM
One flight today for the $1M GTD $3,500 WPT Championship. We have continually running feeders, from $1.10 to begin qualifying

$1.10 -> $33 -> $330 -> 2 seats guaranteed
$5.50/$11 -> $55/$110 -> $530 -> 3 seats guaranteed

Lots of overlay along the way currently!

There is a $530 BI running right now and another will start at 14:46 UTC-5, while a $330 will start at 17:00 UTC-5 (splitting the $3,500 flight itself at 16:00 UTC-5)

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05-20-2024 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cassolete
Almost forgot .... Please, add an option in software "always decline insurance offer" for those who prefer not to use it, because it will save time for everyone and will not distract . Thank you. !
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Originally Posted by cassolete
And also a box "always accept insurance offer" for those who prefer to use it.
We have some improvements to insurance coming in the future that will make it much easier to use. You feedback is noted, thanks.

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Originally Posted by iamreallycrap
I dont like the request for automatic time bank or longer time banks etc.

If you dont have enough time for 2-5% of decisions then you are playing too many tables imo.

Some of the suggestions in this thread are bad for the game imo.

The less like stars, party and GG, the better imo.

By far the most pressing issue is the stability of the client.
Yeah, we understand your feedback and we're certainly not inspired by GG or Stars when it comes to our roadmap. IMO the perfect system is one that adapts to the ability of a player to multi-table, and reduces their table max if they are too slow, and increases it if they continue to play quickly.

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So what you're saying is to make this "legal" you have house players, playing with house money, taking money from customers, and returning it to the house?

WOW...
No. If they win, then we add the money into promos so it goes back to the player pool. I wouldn't feel comfortable keeping the money.

I know this is slightly weird, but it's actually better for the player pool than ambassadors playing under normal conditions. I would personally love to play against opponents who can lose, but cannot win.

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Originally Posted by Enn Sink
What's the decision time and timebank in plo5 tables? It's very short, why is it like that? Any plans to make it slower?
I'm not sure of the exact configuration - I'll find out. Obviously there's a balance here between making the games too fast or too slow, but I'll look into it.
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05-20-2024 , 03:27 PM
Hi,

I'm considering joining the site though an affiliate for some bonuses and such.

It it true that 2 players from the same affiliate would not be able to sit at the same table?

Seems a bit problematic, especially if its true that at times you have to play with 5 or more "pro" players at the same table if we somehow joined through the same one.

Thank you!
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05-21-2024 , 01:08 AM
For satellites like a $110 into the $530 feeder into the $3500, it says you can't un-reg and must play event, but can you un-reg to get a ticket and play a diff sat/day 1?

Guessing you can the way they are spread out? Otherwise you'd have to stay up for about 20 hours or so
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05-21-2024 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ist Das Crazyboi
For satellites like a $110 into the $530 feeder into the $3500, it says you can't un-reg and must play event, but can you un-reg to get a ticket and play a diff sat/day 1?

Guessing you can the way they are spread out? Otherwise you'd have to stay up for about 20 hours or so
Man, I just had to skip a sat with $2k overlay cos I really can't play for the next 20hours....feels bad. Everything about the lobby/schedule feels super disorganised and unclear
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05-21-2024 , 05:38 AM
Busy schedule early this morning with 3 day 1 flights! Many feeders & satellites running as usual




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Originally Posted by gsdavid
It it true that 2 players from the same affiliate would not be able to sit at the same table?
This is not true, if your sole connection to another player is just having the same affiliate

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Originally Posted by Ist Das Crazyboi
For satellites like a $110 into the $530 feeder into the $3500, it says you can't un-reg and must play event, but can you un-reg to get a ticket and play a diff sat/day 1?
As per the description of all these feeders, you cannot unregister from the tournament you are fed into

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Guessing you can the way they are spread out? Otherwise you'd have to stay up for about 20 hours or so
I certainly hope that people who won a feeder for our upcoming $2,100 High Roller PKO ($250,000 GTD), back in early May, would have had some sleep since!
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05-21-2024 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gsdavid
It it true that 2 players from the same affiliate would not be able to sit at the same table?

Seems a bit problematic, especially if its true that at times you have to play with 5 or more "pro" players at the same table if we somehow joined through the same one.
As a general rule, no, that's not true. The only situation I can think of where it might be the case is if there are other strong links between the players, e.g. living in the same house, part of the same family, closely related in some other way.

FairGame, our smart ecology management system, essentially ensures that you're never up against 5 pros at the same table. In the vast majority of games, there is a maximum of two pros.
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05-21-2024 , 06:59 AM
Thank you for the answers! 🙂
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05-21-2024 , 07:49 AM
Collusion bots at 10/20/40

Hello is there any reason why you allow collusion bots on the platform?

At this point seeing them on a daily basis using the same patterns and routines makes me wonder do they have someone inside the platform that creates new accounts for them and ignores regulars complaints, because i am not the only one observing this behaviour. Does the platform use them as a wealth redistribution system ?

They play for months now at 10/20/40. They play as a team of 4 they have multiple accounts and under 10k hands played on each account one of them has a name with european characters and 3 usually chinese letters. The first one enters hu with 100 bb and in max 2 min the other 3 join. They take decisions almost instantly and act on the blockers the other 3 have so they use donks in weird spots bluffs when blockers are on the other bots hands and other obvious collusion tactics. They are easy to spot because all have PFR 13 and VPIP 26 to 29 .

It's 2 weeks now since i sent the info to customercare with all the details and players nicknames and ids, but been observing the bots for months now.

Any decent integrity analyst can see this patterns in a half hour work to be honest. Would apreciate a response on why they exist on the platform. I saw them at 10/20/40 and above , but considering the above i am sure players can confirm they probably act at every stake and if you let them on the omaha games that should be fun for the regulars as well.

On a plus note they usually play just 2 tables few hours a day so it is not such a big problem for the regulars.
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05-21-2024 , 12:00 PM
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Collusion bots at 10/20/40

Hello is there any reason why you allow collusion bots on the platform?

At this point seeing them on a daily basis using the same patterns and routines makes me wonder do they have someone inside the platform that creates new accounts for them and ignores regulars complaints, because i am not the only one observing this behaviour. Does the platform use them as a wealth redistribution system ?

They play for months now at 10/20/40. They play as a team of 4 they have multiple accounts and under 10k hands played on each account one of them has a name with european characters and 3 usually chinese letters. The first one enters hu with 100 bb and in max 2 min the other 3 join. They take decisions almost instantly and act on the blockers the other 3 have so they use donks in weird spots bluffs when blockers are on the other bots hands and other obvious collusion tactics. They are easy to spot because all have PFR 13 and VPIP 26 to 29 .

It's 2 weeks now since i sent the info to customercare with all the details and players nicknames and ids, but been observing the bots for months now.

Any decent integrity analyst can see this patterns in a half hour work to be honest. Would apreciate a response on why they exist on the platform. I saw them at 10/20/40 and above , but considering the above i am sure players can confirm they probably act at every stake and if you let them on the omaha games that should be fun for the regulars as well.

On a plus note they usually play just 2 tables few hours a day so it is not such a big problem for the regulars.
I note that you've reported this to our security team, which I appreciate, and so I'd prefer not to comment in detail until that investigation is over - the team did however confirm that all the accounts under investigation are locked.

If they are indeed bots then of course we'll need to understand why they weren't detected quickly enough by our AI, and we'll take action to ensure that this doesn't happen again. Over 99% of bot cases are proactively detected by our AI before anyone reports them, but we know there will always be the <1% where we depend on reports like yours, so thank you.
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05-21-2024 , 03:12 PM
I understand your position on not commenting.

As a regular on the platform it's extremly frustrating to see this problem going on daily and accounts that i previously reported colluding on the platform.

If the AI can't detect 4 players with similar stats entering the table on a spawn of 5 minutes having the same PFR of 13 and taking decisions in less than 5 sec considering the other colluders blockers the AI has a serious leak. No human can act as fast as they do, even if someone was considering to collude in that matter there is no time for a human to see other accounts cards and take a decision. They donk OOP when other bot has blocker for top pair. They bluff or hero call when others have blockers. They snap shove TT to KK from any position if it is between them but if a 3rd player enter the pot they just pump the pot for the high cards and snap fold QQ preflop if another bot has KK or AA.

This pattern happens for months now. I urge you to ask some serious questions to the integrity department because i am not the first player noticing this toxic behaviour.

Maybe a person needs to watch the games instead of an AI. Hope you are able to take action against this type of cheaters.
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05-21-2024 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WPT Global Peter



As per the description of all these feeders, you cannot unregister from the tournament you are fed into

I see. That's quite problematic. Right now there's a $110 feeder (started around 6:10 Thai time) running into the $530 which starts at 7:46. So far so good. Those times kind of match up. There will be some late reg entries into the 530 from the 110, perfect.

But the next $3500 starts at 21:30. Which will be 10-12 hours after the 530 sat...

So recreational players who balance jobs will never be able to play this. Humans who play normal hours won't be able to play this. Who is the tiny subset of players you are targeting here? It makes absolutely no sense.
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05-22-2024 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ghindos
I understand your position on not commenting.

As a regular on the platform it's extremly frustrating to see this problem going on daily and accounts that i previously reported colluding on the platform.

If the AI can't detect 4 players with similar stats entering the table on a spawn of 5 minutes having the same PFR of 13 and taking decisions in less than 5 sec considering the other colluders blockers the AI has a serious leak. No human can act as fast as they do, even if someone was considering to collude in that matter there is no time for a human to see other accounts cards and take a decision. They donk OOP when other bot has blocker for top pair. They bluff or hero call when others have blockers. They snap shove TT to KK from any position if it is between them but if a 3rd player enter the pot they just pump the pot for the high cards and snap fold QQ preflop if another bot has KK or AA.

This pattern happens for months now. I urge you to ask some serious questions to the integrity department because i am not the first player noticing this toxic behaviour.

Maybe a person needs to watch the games instead of an AI. Hope you are able to take action against this type of cheaters.
I hasnt experienced this but for me It looks like bots aré starting to infect the site in the last months
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05-22-2024 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ghindos
I urge you to ask some serious questions to the integrity department because i am not the first player noticing this toxic behaviour.

Maybe a person needs to watch the games instead of an AI. Hope you are able to take action against this type of cheaters.
I'm following the investigation with interest. Having people watch games in real-time isn't a realistic solution for bot detection though, for many reasons.

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I hasnt experienced this but for me It looks like bots aré starting to infect the site in the last months
I haven't seen any evidence that this is true, one case doesn't make a pattern. As previously mentioned, over 99% of bot cases are proactively detected and that's still the case. There will always be the <1% of cases that, for whatever reason, we don't detect quickly enough. That small proportion is an opportunity for us to improve the detection mechanisms, tools or processes.
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05-22-2024 , 06:26 AM
We have 1 day 1 flight for each major tournament today, with the $22 Spring Festival Mini Championship ($150K GTD) running right now. We also have a 4 seat guaranteed feeder to the $2,100 Spring Festival High Roller PKO ($250,000 GTD), starting at 11:09 UTC-5. The High Roller itself takes place this Saturday at 11:30 UTC-5!

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05-22-2024 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by WPT Global Alex
IMO the perfect system is one that adapts to the ability of a player to multi-table, and reduces their table max if they are too slow, and increases it if they continue to play quickly.
I can see the fairness in that for sure.
There certainly needs to be a disincentive for acting slowly constantly.

I would like it if slow actors had their timebanks slashed, and the players who are actually present in the games are allowed to use the full time to think when necessary.

I know, I am hardcore
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05-22-2024 , 08:57 AM
Would be interested if the bot accusations in question turn out to be true, because I haven't noticed anything of the sort.

You seem quite adamant but without evidence I will remain skeptical.
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