Does pointing out that they need to adjust the rake schedule because SWC is now charging significantly more rake than their competitors make you a terrorist? Because those are the kinds of posts that are getting deleted.

The massive increase in post deletions sounds to me like additional proof that SWC ownership changed sometime between May 21st and November 13th. The timeframe is consistent with the other inexplicable management decisions and outright incompetence that we've seen on the site.

If anyone wants to see the posts that are getting deleted in the bitcointalk thread, set an email alert for new posts. It emails you the whole text of the post before they have a chance to remove it.

It's disturbing to see legitimate player concerns getting deleted, not to mention their constant locking of the thread to preclude any player questions or feedback. They have also been deleting their own posts sometimes weeks or months after the fact, which seems shady.

I just withdrew the remainder of my funds from the site after hearing about two players who had withdrawals blocked in the past week for no legitimate reason. I recommend others do the same.

In response to the rake being increased three times in a 4 month period, a large group of players including myself are organising a site boycott for at least one week starting next weekend. There are already a significant number of players who have joined. If you would like to get involved please check the discord thread posted above or contact me on here.

I've been boycotting for a month now, due to the games dying. If SWC would like to know why tourneys have good action, and cash games don't, it's because of rake. Regs talk together to start the tourneys, but it's just not profitable for 2 regs to play each other on a cash table waiting for a fish. The reason why stars has so many reg battles is because of it's low rake

The bolded part

Stars net rake is 0.94% for 5/10

https://www.primedope.com/online-pok...ke-calculator/

While I am still unhappy about the rake and would like further adjustments, I must say something positive. I recently had some software issues while deep in a large tourney, and they credited me for the difference in EV that I lost due to the issues.

This helps, if they could only adjust the rake a little better (or if BTC dropped 50-75% that would work too) site would be the best out there. As it is, still in the top tier, imo.

Whenever bitcoin goes up, players on this site go crazy in proportion to how high it spikes. This is because bitcoin is worth more than any fiat currency and if you disagree you don't understand bitcoin.

There's always an outrage whenever bitcoin spikes.

If not the rake, complain about loss of chat when you were never talking about poker anyways.

If not chat, complain about lack of traffic. Well that's your job if your such a fan of the site. It clearly occupies a majority of your daily headspace.

If traffic is good complain about krill tough to earn. When krill 3X as it is now, find something about the tournament schedule to complain about. The buy ins are either too low or too high or it's at the wrong time.

Bitcoin was 4k in march now it's 40k. You think you'd be in love with this site, but my theory is you have no bankroll mgmt.

With regards to the rake, it's the lowest on the net.

Up to 10/20 it's 4% with a 25 chip cap ($1USD now, but this is irrelevant) because over 90% of pots at those stakes do not hit the cap of 625 chips.

Stars rake is 5% at those stakes and seals is 3% after modest rakeback for a net rakeback of 40% compared to stars.

Therefore seals has a lower rake than stars for well over 90% of pots.

So you are wrong about the rake.

Lol this is the worst line of thinking I've heard in a while. Basically your saying because bitcoin went up we should be fine with the rake. ???? Seals did not cause bitcoin to go up, they should adjust to it.

At the stakes I play, about 50/100, it is 3.6% with a 120 chip cap, 4$. At these stakes on ACR, it is 5% with a 3$ cap + 30% rakeback.

Now having about the same net rake as ACR is good, but SWC's whole premise is low rake. There are NO welcome bonuses on SWC, NO rewards for grinding (like ACR Beast etc.), NO support for HUDs and external tracking.

So why should a site lacking all these features, and volume, also charge the same amount of rake as the vastly superior one?\

Edit: superior in terms of features, not superior premise.

Absolute nonsense. Your figures are all wrong. Comparisons show swc will rake 4 times the amount that stars will in a lot of pots. Rake has gone up 3 times in 5 months. It has little to do with BTC inflation.

The rake going up is actually proportional to btc inflation so you are wrong about “little to do.”

I’ll never agree that 4% is a bigger number than 5% so you are wrong about that. I don’t care if you post twenty posts that my numbers are nonsense.

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What happened to working on your game? Cry me a rake river every hour of every day. You spend more time thinking about rake than anyone in poker.

You are like “don’t you want the cry baby regs to return and start games?” No we are fine without you. Play elsewhere you won’t be missed.

Okay LETIGRA, just for you, since you seem to be a little slow.

Let's say, we do not adjust the rake when bitcoin prices go up. Bitcoin is worth a million dollars now. Hooray! We play 100/200, which is now $100/$200 (NL20k). Rake has not been adjusted, so you pay 120 chips in rake (cap), right?

That is now $120 rake cap. Do you think that is a good deal?



Compare it to Pokerstars and the rake cap there is $5. Still think it's a good deal?


We cannot make it any easier for you, this is basically drawing it in crayons. So please just accept that you do not understand what you are talking about and shut up. Thanks!

We did and now nothing runs anymore. You may be fine with it, but we argue that maybe SWC isn't.

SWC has locked the official bitcoin talk thread again and hasn't answered any of my emails. Any suggestion on how to get ahold of someone who works at the site?

They have said that if you don't get a response to emails sent to support@swcpoker.club (that's .club not .eu) to DM their official account on bitcointalk. They have also said something to the effect that bitcointalk isn't a great way to reach them because they don't check it often.

Someone who lost money due to their domain going down on 12/31 got some tourney tickets and some chips refunded a few days ago. The issue was resolved 4 weeks after the fact after emailing them repeatedly, DMing them on bitcointalk, posting in the official bitcointalk thread (and being ignored), and finally by opening a scam accusation thread. SWC said they didn't receive the player's emails due to a technical issue on their end.

I'd try emailing/DMing them but scam accusation thread seems to be the only way other players are getting traction at the moment.

Is the leaderboard still an active promotion on SWC? This webpage hasn't been updated in days. You can see that the weekly and the monthly totals are the same, even though a new week started about 16 hrs ago. I don't see any mention by SWC regarding this. Based on SWC's horrible track record regarding communicating changes with their user base, I would not be surprised if this promotion was cancelled and there was no public statement regarding this





Pulled these off of the SWC Player's Lounge, bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273481.0

The main SWC thread is still locked so I suggest emailing SWC if you also find this rake way too high like I do.



The leaderboard is still being advertised on the banner ad so it must still be a promotion. Has anyone heard who won for the 1st week of February? Is this posted anywhere?

Rake at the jackpot tables is over $8 cap now.

Good luck beating that longterm, friends.

rake lowered tinkerbell!!

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made 5 zips this month..

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rake too high on jackpot and fixed limit?

guess what no one plays or cares!!

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lower rake = more zips per month

6 cards coming soon?

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yeah, but now they're charging for withdrawals, and just charged someone a 10% transaction fee:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/00...2ad1b3c0c65965

pay me now or pay me later.

bada boom

the high fee issue was resolved the next day, refunds were issued. but yeah its a bummer that they couldnt continue to pay the fee. perhaps they could come up with some type of playthrough no fee to withdraw bonus.

they announced a new tourney series running from march 18 to april 4. they call it march madness and there are tourneys only on days that college basketball is on. i think its weird but maybe there will be fun gimmick tourneys using the basketball theme.

No.

I saw that they lowered the buying for the daily doubles. As anybody actually won it yet?

How does PLO/NLHE cash run at small and midstakes? Probably traffic peak is US evening?

I see it run quite a bit. Mostly in the evenings tho is when the action is the best like you stated. It’s nice they lowered the jackpot being able to be hit at lower stakes.

Agreed. It's a small site, but you'll typically find a good amount of micro/low NL hold'em tables and a handful of 5-card PLO and Big O8 tables during the US evening.

Hi guys. I am looking for a club like site to put volume in at 100-200nl. I am not sure about the bros clubs and SWC seems like a nice place to play. I would only play 1-2 tables during a session. On an evening, how many 100 + 200 tables are running? Like 2-3?

Their rake structure seems very favorable, especially with affiliates and some rakeback and the such.

Also anyone know of a staker who will buy for 25/50 and 50/100 +?