That;s not what they want, he's a obviously a trouble user and you and him combined can't seem to light a fire. just read his comment about losing a lot of money, can't you spot a lie from a bad player. who loses money on software glitches and then comes back for more so he can lose more. its just absurd. its the textbook story from a losing player. every site has their losers and complainers and obviously seals doens't want people with stories asking for refunds.

if you lost 25 cents once due to a glitch its rare but I can understand, but to keep going back in that scenario is pretty dumb and that's why I find the story absurd.

I can tell you this doesn't happen often. I have played 12 hour sessions with no problems and the person making this claim is obviously a habitual liar or has other problems.

You may be right about this player but based on what the new swc rep has posted in the bitcointalk thread and the way he acts and treats people makes me think that the trouble could be with the rep. whether this particular player is trouble or not.

Everytime somebody complains in that thread, the swc rep tells them to go play somewhere else. Very stupid. There is also a 2 +2 thread where the rep was banned where he made an ass of himself.

I am not trying to start any fires...for me the software sucks. And all this time that SWC is wasting in getting their act togother betcoinpoker keeps taking the players, with better software, better tournaments, more cash traffic than SWC now and better promotions. So instead of turning players off with the condescending attitude they need to get their act together soon, whether you like it or not.

and before using your clairvoyant powers and declare a player trouble, you should read this thread.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...eated-1545749/

By all accounts this "trouble player" is a veteran pro poker player who final tabled a WSOP event this year and who enjoys a fine reputation at 2 + 2.

Thanks for confirming. I only occasionally play OFC for fun but have tried to look up how it works as best as possible.

Since this adds in the table stakes aspect it can be an adjustment even for people used to playing OFC on an app or in person where you just keep track of points and settle money afterwards.

Lol, first off I never said I lost a lot of money on there, although your entire opinion seems to be based upon that. I said I lost a lot of money on there because of software glitches, as in I should have won more money that I did if not for the software malfunctions. For example, playing heads up 10-20 PLO, check raise to like 1800 on turn with top set and 150 chips behind, while having a #2 badugi in heads up badeucy after first draw at the same time. The whole client freezes (this was happening to everyone on a daily basis) it takes a while for client to restart and both of hands hands are killed. I was also playing on other sites at the same time so it wasn't like my cable modem was unplugged.

most of these problems were 1-2 months ago, when I don't think you even played on there, at times when the LAG was so bad the game was often unplayable, I had one hand of Badeuxy that took 8 minutes to play out for example. The software has been pretty good lately.

I certainly have no hidden agenda or anything against the site as I have multiple posts praising it, as well as have brought in several players to play mix games (and I'm not an affiliate). My complaint was less to do with the disconnection issue and more to do with the response that we can't fix the LAG problems so you should just not play hi for now (I was playing 100-200 Btw not for .25 cents)
Whether or not I'm a big loser on there, no comment, but I would be more Han happy to sign back on and play some mix games tomorrow if anyone wants to play.... You can even pick the games if you want, should be easy spot if I'm obviously a huge losing player on there.

.....or imagine this scenario. Before you appeared on the site I played lots of heads up and short handed deuce. MaccauBound on here can attest for sure as we played lots of heads up. We frequently (daily) would play hands with each other where the other person was unable to check/bet or select cards to draw.
Fortunately he is a ethical guy and whenever this happened to one of us we would type in chat box, can't click cards and we would check it down. Believe it or not, not everybody on an anonymous site is like that.

Now imagine you are playing 100-200 deuce and have 23477 on the last draw but can't select a card to discard or that its a 2-1 spot and you have some rough pos 4578 draw but you can bet and instead of the other guy folding you check it back and he gets to draw for free. These were frequent occurrences, that have since been resolved. And I'm not even going to mention the times I had amazing games going that broke because the LAG was so bad everybody quit out of frustration.

Yeah jon is not only a solid pro that I've learned a lot from that I'd really only play huhu in order to start games, but is about as ethical and level headed a player as I've seen.

The DC issues aren't as prevalent as they used to, but we played a lot of highish stakes soon after the 2.0 software was released w mixed games and these things happened everyday. Sometimes, you couldn't see your cards, sometimes you could see them, but it wouldn't let you pat or draw and you would basically have to time out, and sometimes the client would just freeze.

The thing is that these issues were super prevalent a couple months ago and have very rarely occurred in the last month, so two people playing completely different games at different periods of time are going to have completely different experiences wrt software issues.

wwin has us mixed up a bit. We both came out with the Seals cheating info (Jon's was OP), but he is the veteran FT player and I'm the one who FT the 2-7 this year ;

Congrats

My "hand history" doesn't seem to be showing the other players hole cards after a showdown in pot limit Big Omaha 8? (5 card Omaha high-low)

What kind of traffic is the site getting? And cashouts acceptable wait time?

End the Fed and Pinkerish thanks for taking the time to explain the points in the scoring of that hand, I'm obv new to ofc... Now if if they would fix the other glitches and random freezes/disconnects that would be great.

cashouts are within days and there are P2P. Traffic is sporadic, but there is a wide range of games/stakes played

Cashouts have only taken a few hours in my experience. But I run my own blockchain wallet.

Cash outs are not days. They are hours and sometimes even minutes. The only time its the next day, like 8 hrs later is when they are sleeping. During business hours its processed very fast. I've had 35 mins to 10 hrs worst case.

It's ok, my post doesn't really conflict with your info and as previous poster already mentioned, they usually take hours.

They have taken more than 1 day before and they have also taken 90 minutes (or 35 minutes).

These reported times all meet the criteria "within days". If a cashout has taken more than 24 hours previously, though they are often around half a day, I'm not sure how "within days" isn't precise and accurate enough for you. But I think it's ok. If I'm wronger, then you can be righter, I don't mind hehe.

Is the site down?

It was for a bit, at least I couldn't connect or reach the website. It's back up now.

They posted that they are under a DDoS attack, but are dealing with it.

I don't get why this site doesn't get more traffic.

The software is pretty good...and cashing out is literally as easy and reliable/fast as possible.

Because Betcoinpoker is now the leader in the Bitcoin space and ACR now takes bitcoins. Some from seals went to betcoin when seals was out and never came back.. some others don't want to play in Windows. And seals lost a charismatic leader that could communicate. There is really not much incentive to play in seals unless you want to play OFCP or mixed games.

Fair enough..although I DL'ed Betcoin today and there was even less cash traffic (zero Omaha tables and 2 NL tables)

Obviously Betcoin has the more tourney play

Maybe its time of day or players playing the freebuys at ACR but usually on evenings they can have like 60-70 players at the cash tables.

Is there no android app for this new swc?

recieved a instant withdrawal very nice

The crowd at seals is much better and so is the mgmt.

I played at betcoin and found it to be a complete joke. 4 out 9 at the table all in with nothing, one person playing in the same tourney under 7 different accounts. The constant cheaters and garbage software at betcoin makes me wonder how they're even alive, not to mention those pathetic pay outs. 700 people competing for 50 cents in a freeroll.

Betcoin does have more users but its clearly idiots and cheaters and children just playing games. My guess is they get their traffic using less than reputable methods. I noticed they spammed all the BTC forums and have constant spammy advertising campaigns. The traffic is good but a fraction of the quality that you will find at seals.

I found one person cheating so far at seals after months of playing, I emailed support and he was pulled from a running tourney and banned right away. Over at betcoin I emailed them about a guy who was using many accounts and they pulled him after about 1 week. This was so obvious too since he was using the same name with a 1 added on it and then 2 and 3 and so on.

If you're starting out playing BTC poker you can sum it up as follows.

SEALS - great software, great crowd, near instant deposit and withdraw, good management, LOW traffic,

BETCOIN - awful software, awful crowd, major collusion, non existent support and security, lots of complaints about withdrawals and fraud, but they have about 15x the traffic of seals.