Also , always remembered seeing the same sunshine club idiots and shooting range with the exact same stats (vpip etc) always sitting same tables.

Clubs are riddled w collusion. Why anyone plays here is beyond me.

Maybe has something to do with this?
Got this message yesterday, not entirely sure what they saying.
Anybody know what PppokerPro is or what they are talking about?

PPPoker pro is a project from pppoker to run real money games on a separate platform. So as you imagine it would be a direct competition to current Unions and Clubs because lets be honest for the most part this pppoker play money model is only pretence.

BTW PPPoker.pro own terms and conditions were mentioning USA customers they did also some extensive testing in USA so those claims right now are silly that "No we never planned it" . Of course they did .

Basically PPPoker wanted to hog much bigger piece of the pie than they currently do and it was not received well by certain people.

Wow thats crazy thanks for the insight.

After talking with some friends I heard the same thing that brandonlooper said.
A lot of clubs are planning to move to an app called “pokerbros” soon.

Do yyou guys have issues with KOPLAYER?
Sometimes in the middle of a good session and sick table I am disconnected because of GPS or PPPoker not being able to detect location, and I have to close/open PPPoker, turn off/on the Location in the KOPLAYER.
Frustrating sometimes.

So I can or can't play from UK?

Can't blame them. I mean it was a massive **** up from PPPoker. It is not only USA I can imagine Brasilians Unions probably love to hear about PPPokerPro too especially when they learn that there were the new and unique features that were coming to the Pro version that would never make it to the Play Money PPPoker. So when I suddenly see PPPoker shills saying "Wow new and great features coming suddenly to pppoker" well of course they are cause the world caught you with your little PPPPoker Pro shenanigans.

I sort of understand PPPoker tbh. If you look at Chinese Market before it even collapsed Poker King Asia profits were 5-6 times higher than Poker Master in 2018 from what I saw . So if PPPoker caught just a piece of their current "Play Money" market and converted it to the Pro version it would be massive for them plus one lobby like on Poker King Asia would make it a lot more atractive for many players.


But now when they got caught with their pants down their reaction is kinda sillly. I mean People just learned that you tried to stab them in the back and steal their customers. Like what do you expect.
Now they just try to slander the Club/Union owners for moving to other platform which is the most logical thing anyone would do.
They are not helping themselves with their reaction.

You can play from everywhere though it depends on the clubs some US Unions only accept US based players

So is this an actual thing that will be happening?
Im sort of confused with it. Clubs will still run "illegally" regardless. So what benefit would this even be to US markets?

Do you remember those post from the beggining of the year? Where PPPPoker was doing this "year of". And their claims of no more credit issues,sustainable business etc? Thats basically PPPoker Pro.
It is full real money means all chips are fully funded. No more chips credit and being cheated by an agent and so on.
So right now agents and clubs have full control over the money. Under PPPoker Pro model money would be handled by PPPoker and agents would basically became affiliates that would get % of your rake as a reward.
MEans there would be no more credit issues and club/agents stiffing as they would not be handling the money.

This is what China basically become after Poker Master and so on collapse. Most of the sites that still exist are fully deposit/withdrawal and there is no more credit chips. Means no one can print those.


So in this model what PPPoker is trying to accomplish is basically get rid of Club owners and agents for the most part and just deal directly with players.
Players get less diversity (This is my assumption but I pressume it would be a one lobby solution like the other 2nd Gen sites in China right now) and unified rakeback/promotion system and I assume it would be much worse for them too (just look at Pokerstars and other sites like that recently).

PPPoker takes the lion share of what used to be taken by Unions,clubs and agents and wins massively. PLayers would be a lot worse too after initial promotions as lets be honest there is no good monopoly.

There would be still "clubs"per see and agents (now called affiliates) but it would be all fully controlled by pppoker as they would be the ones handling the money.

And yes up until recently PPPoker Pro was a very real thing that was getting extensively tested. I am not sure how PPPoker will react given recent backlash. They might scrap the project ,they might make some changes. No one knows really. Probably even PPPPoker doesn't know it yet fully.

This most likely gonna make PPP more expensive to play but also more convinient. Risk for players will increase, PPP will earn alot more, agents/affiliates will earn less but they also will have less work.
Overall fairly neutral news - will be good for some and bad for others

LOL saying something is fairly neutral for everyone because it is fairly neutral to you in your given position is a terrible way of looking at this.

For people that own/run unions- this means death and they brought their connections there too. There is zero reason for those guys to keep working with PPPoker

For Club owners this is mostly a terrible news. The safety they will get from no credit will not make up for how much less they will be making as affiliates basically.

Agents-here is the first category of it being mixed. Same for the players. The guys that had shitty access will benefit from unified affiliate deals that are openly avaliable. The guys that had good direct connections/unique deals-thats a terrible news.

Players-same story. The guys that had shitty access/agent/terrible deal and had no access to private deals thats an amazing news. For all the people that had such access this is super bad news.


Don't really see it being neutral/positive at all. The only category it benefits are agents/players with a shitty access. For them thats an amazing news.

I didnt say its neutrsl for everyone i said its neutral OVERALL. Will cost me some money myself as well but i like the direction they are going.
Pokerking is the absolute benchmark for me how an app should be set up and every step in the direction of their business model i consider as good news even if it might cost me money

Is this only happening to me?

Very very very tilting, losing a good seat in a good table
Need to close the game, Location --> turn off/on GPS and reopen the game

might wanna block out the SN's. PPP has a history of trying to ban winners/forcing ppl to pay for there own hud rather than using 3rd party ones.

Anyone know the distance for the proximity rule?

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Sounds to me like everyone is leaving pppoker bc of this though.
So everything should stay the same just on a different app.

I've also heard the new app will allow 3rd party software, which is good imo, because PPPoker can't enforce the rules they make.

I've haven't had GPS problems yet with PPPoker, though only a few thousand hands. I like the look of your HUD - which software are you using for that?

Oops, did not know that. Sadly seems like I can't edit my own post

It is drivehud
@FreakDaddy provides a very nice support in this community.

Tried logging in to a few accounts today and I'm receiving a message "You are banned from the game!" If I try logging in with an emulator it works fine. Anyone have a clue what this is?

You were banned. You might have used the hand converter on the window version and they catched you..

Why not just create a new account?

Which union was this at? Pretty surprising in 5 weeks of time it’s gotten up to your agent....what stakes were you playing? Funny how if people win the thought process is someone must be cheating

Does anyone know how the Winner and Fish numbers are calculated?

When table time expires and you re player who made biggest profit of all who played on that table,you re winner.

Fish-player who lost the most.