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04-20-2020 , 09:17 AM
Diamond union agents are very greedy and will not give rake back unless you request it, so make sure to request it.
I played some high volume there, run it up lose it and never cash out. (They love degens like me). Just recently I reached out and was told they would give me 20% rb. But at this point im not playing anymore on poker bros.
If you are hot one day, believe you will be cold the next. At 1/2 had a guy take me for quite a bit, 4 handed and he played every hand never folded he was like 48/60 and this is 6 card Omaha. I've watched the session a few times and every time I had him dominated lightening would strike.
This was after running 12.00 up to 300 and finishing 125 on the 100k the day prior. I'm very curious how anyone can cash that big prize of 40k plus up top, considering it runs every night that is alot of money to transfer and not be flagged.

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04-20-2020 , 09:21 AM
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I'm very curious how anyone can cash that big prize of 40k plus up top, considering it runs every night that alot of money to transfer and not be flagged.
Crypto would be one way
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04-20-2020 , 09:34 AM
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Crypto would be one way
So you get the money into your wallet, easy enough. Now you need to transfer to a app like coin base to get in your bank account. They are just going to allow this with no questions? Cash app wanted me to fill out a tax form just for btc I bought.
Not to mention the btc market is very volatile, good one day crash the next. All these huge payouts people reporting mid cashes but not one claiming to hit i think the highest i saw was over 100k up top.
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04-20-2020 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Anon4567
So you get the money into your wallet, easy enough. Now you need to transfer to a app like coin base to get in your bank account. They are just going to allow this with no questions? Cash app wanted me to fill out a tax form just for btc I bought.

Not to mention the btc market is very volatile, good one day crash the next. All these huge payouts people reporting mid cashes but not one claiming to hit i think the highest i saw was over 100k up top.
You can get the money in stable coins if you dont want btc swings

Getting money into your bank is a completely different story. Most banks are very hostile towards crypto and you maybalready get problems with something as little as 5k.
Also the more regulated exchanges might wanna know where this money is coming from especially if unusually large transaction in regards to your account.
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04-20-2020 , 10:12 AM
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Getting money into your bank is a completely different story. Most banks are very hostile towards crypto and you maybalready get problems with something as little as 5k.
Also the more regulated exchanges might wanna know where this money is coming from especially if unusually large transaction in regards to your account.
Maybe someone who has won big can explain how they get these big payouts. Would be very informative non the less to people dreaming about hitting one of these tourneys.

Most clubs have a limit of 5k per week, so if I'm correct they expect you to keep 80% in your account and withdraw little by little?
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04-20-2020 , 10:35 AM
The posting blinds when sitting out is one feature I like , cause it keeps players from repeatedly sitting out.
That’s a problem on a lot of sites
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04-20-2020 , 10:45 AM
What happens if one club doesn’t pay and there in the union , does that screw up payouts to all players , or do they have a way to segregate funds , cause there’s some nice paying tourneys on these unions
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04-20-2020 , 12:56 PM
Where can you find good, legitimate clubs that operate with integrity?


I have heard different reviews regarding the app and the logarithms. Is the app rigged or tweaked for action?
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04-20-2020 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Anon4567
Maybe someone who has won big can explain how they get these big payouts. Would be very informative non the less to people dreaming about hitting one of these tourneys.

Most clubs have a limit of 5k per week, so if I'm correct they expect you to keep 80% in your account and withdraw little by little?
I won the bbj for ~30k. As far as getting the money back to your bank, it could get a little tricky. I try to do PB->BTC->Peer to peer transfer for cash with small vig. Would not suggest cashing out more than 5k from your exchange to your bank.
I also do Venmo - Cashapp for smaller cashouts.
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04-20-2020 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bchi
Where can you find good, legitimate clubs that operate with integrity?


I have heard different reviews regarding the app and the logarithms. Is the app rigged or tweaked for action?
It would be extremely unlikely for an app to ‘rigged’ their shuffling algo to create more action. Not only would it be a terrible business idea, but they really dont gain much from it as it doesn’t operate like a normal poker site. If anything, it would benefit them for people to play longer and not have coolers.

You do have to be mindful of other aspects(colluding, multiaccounting) that are harder the detect. As far as cashouts, i’ve never had a problem.
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04-20-2020 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gimmedaTURTLES
It would be extremely unlikely for an app to ‘rigged’ their shuffling algo to create more action. Not only would it be a terrible business idea, but they really dont gain much from it as it doesn’t operate like a normal poker site. If anything, it would benefit them for people to play longer and not have coolers.

You do have to be mindful of other aspects(colluding, multiaccounting) that are harder the detect. As far as cashouts, i’ve never had a problem.

Thanks! Appreciate your comment. You’re right about the colluding, multiaccounting. I have seen some fishy things in tournaments where it seemed like they were dumping chips. What are the most popular, reliable clubs?
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04-20-2020 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gimmedaTURTLES
I won the bbj for ~30k. As far as getting the money back to your bank, it could get a little tricky. I try to do PB->BTC->Peer to peer transfer for cash with small vig. Would not suggest cashing out more than 5k from your exchange to your bank.
I also do Venmo - Cashapp for smaller cashouts.

So you couldn’t zelle 5k every day or would that be a red flag
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04-20-2020 , 03:21 PM
The only solution for big cashouts is BTC, period. Buy an hardware wallet and you're set.

Unless you're happy paying taxes or getting questioned from your bank.
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04-20-2020 , 03:38 PM
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The only solution for big cashouts is BTC, period. Buy an hardware wallet and you're set.

Unless you're happy paying taxes or getting questioned from your bank.
How does BTC work? If you buy a hardware wallet you can exchange the btc to your bank account?
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04-20-2020 , 04:03 PM
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How does BTC work? If you buy a hardware wallet you can exchange the btc to your bank account?
Not much different then a software wallet, just a piece of hardware that holds your keys. Works the same still need to sell on a exchange for currency.

Also keep in mind btc charges a fee to confirm the transaction. The quicker you want it confirmed the more you pay, you pay too little transaction could go into limbo or wait a long time. Now adays you can make the transaction replaceable but expect to pay a much higher fee.

Before dealing with bitcoin, you probably best to read up on it and get a general understanding.

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04-20-2020 , 04:12 PM
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Not much different then a software wallet, just a piece of hardware that holds your keys. Works the same still need to sell on a exchange for currency
Thanks for the help guys.
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04-20-2020 , 04:33 PM
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Diamond union agents are very greedy and will not give rake back unless you request it, so make sure to request it.
That seems like a broad sweeping generalization. My agent gives the same deal to everyone. I wouldn't call him greedy either. He's just trying to make a living in the midst of a shut down economy.

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I played some high volume there, run it up lose it and never cash out. (They love degens like me).
I don't think the agents like that you lose it because then this happens:

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at this point im not playing anymore on poker bros.
Anyways, I suppose cashing out is a skill one must acquire. I ran up my roll from nothing and actually won every single day for my first 15 days. Then my 16th day I was up a good amount but degened it at higher levels and lost a chunk so I decided to take my entire bankroll off before I risked tilting it all away. (it should be noted that degening it at higher levels is part of the reason I never had a losing day previous to that).

I was planning to take a decent break from the app and just spend the money I won but I now I have rakeback coming to me and I told my agent to just put it on the app and maybe i'll run it up again.
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04-20-2020 , 05:47 PM
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If any agents want to Pm me
Just to let everyone know, we don't typically allow these posts for any sites/networks, as it just enables the spammers we get that join up just to build their businesses.
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04-20-2020 , 05:57 PM
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That seems like a broad sweeping generalization. My agent gives the same deal to everyone. I wouldn't call him greedy either. He's just trying to make a living in the midst of a shut down economy.
Thats good at least your agent gave it to you without asking. First time I reached out they straight said no, but come to find out its the default answer from the deposit team.
Then i reached out on another forum and got offered the 20%. But was asked not to speak about it or post anything online about it because they normally don't offer it because it encourages players to shop around for a better deal.
But this late in the game I don't want the rake back anymore, and would like to make sure players know this is available upon request. Diamond union makes enough money as it is they can afford it.

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04-20-2020 , 06:24 PM
Anyone familiar with running the clubs on PB open to answering some newbie questions regarding such?

How does PB format their reporting as far as the date function? If it says that it's giving a report of the results from games on April 20th, what about the games that ran from 20th to 21st? Does it simply calculate what the exact results were at midnight or is it just based on what time the game started as far as the date? So a game starting 11:59pm on April 20th would just be reported for the 20th even if it ran until 12 noon on the 21st?

Obviously could just try to open a game at that time and check but haven't been available at that hour.

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04-20-2020 , 09:11 PM
What is the rake in those Poker Bros (or other apps) Tournaments?
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04-20-2020 , 09:20 PM
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What is the rake in those Poker Bros (or other apps) Tournaments?
Do they math add up buyins, rebuys and add-ons. They say they don't make much off tourneys but I've seen over 100k taken from the total prize pool in some of the big tournaments.
Seems like alot to me but then again you got all these clubs in the union that probably get a cut, but say they each get 10,000 that alot of players funds being taken away from the prize pool to play imo.
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04-20-2020 , 11:14 PM
How easy is it to actually start a club?
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04-21-2020 , 01:50 AM
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Maybe someone who has won big can explain how they get these big payouts. Would be very informative non the less to people dreaming about hitting one of these tourneys.

Most clubs have a limit of 5k per week, so if I'm correct they expect you to keep 80% in your account and withdraw little by little?
it's depending mostly on your agent again. I'm not aware of any 5k restriction to players so it's definitely not standard. if you win the elusive 40k you should be able to cash out those 40k once the results of last week come in (monday, tuesday). If you can't cash out those funds it's more likely that your agent has a liquidity problem than anything else

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What happens if one club doesn’t pay and there in the union , does that screw up payouts to all players , or do they have a way to segregate funds , cause there’s some nice paying tourneys on these unions
again this is an agent issue. if agent is guaranteeing your winnings it should not matter to you what kind of bullshit happend in the background you still should get paid asap. However if your agent told you that he isn't guaranteeing in case of any background scams this would be a problem.

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Where can you find good, legitimate clubs that operate with integrity?
I'm aware of 3 bigger unions currently, Diamond and Panamericana (US) and AsianBros (AUS); as far as I can tell there weren't any (bigger) scams in any of those 3 so far and the US unions are around for quite a while now and seem to be managed quite professionally. Over time and with all the hype there will be most likely more unions and clubs opening shop and there will always be some black sheep. If you play you should always discuss with your agent if he guarantees your deposits and winnings dependant on where you play


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How does BTC work? If you buy a hardware wallet you can exchange the btc to your bank account?
you have the misconception that people want to get money into a bankaccount at any cost. Most people don't want to do that. Especially with the coming recession. So alot of people will just store the win in BTC, exchange BTC for cash at localbitcoins etc, move btc into stable coins BUT very few people will try to move their big cashout to a bank


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Thats good at least your agent gave it to you without asking. First time I reached out they straight said no, but come to find out its the default answer from the deposit team.
Then i reached out on another forum and got offered the 20%. But was asked not to speak about it or post anything online about it because they normally don't offer it because it encourages players to shop around for a better deal.
Alot of agents will give you whatever they can get away with. So if they can get away with giving you no rb they will do so. Agents are in this at pure selfinterest for the most part as well and trying to max out their EV. Whatever rb they give to players comes directly out of their own bottomline. also all deals vary so some agents might have deals where they get maybe 60% and others might only have deals where they have 30%. This money then will be split with players as they see fit (or can get away with)

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How easy is it to actually start a club?
opening a club is pretty easy. getting connected, building player pool, infrastructure for payments, support etc will be the more challenging aspect
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04-21-2020 , 03:38 AM
There should be a minimum of avg tables running per day for the club to apply for the bbjp
I know a club that runs maybe 2 tables per day for 6 -7 hours/ day that has the bbjp, theres almost no way that it’ll hit within the next 10 years, im assuming the club will just keep the money for themselves.
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