Hello

How long does it normally take for you people to make a cashout on pokerbros?

I am asking, since it has been over a week now since I asked my agent to cashout 10k to my bitcoin wallet.

The agent is a big one with many players to manage, and his response was that the payment was in queue, since they had lots of players to handle.

It is kind of a red flag to me, that it takes this long to do a simple bitcoin transfer, but maybe it is normal to take this long. I am already paying 5% service fee for every cashout, so I was expecting better service from the Agent.

Do I have any reason to be worried?

I’m sure you will get paid eventually…

The slow paying really needs to stop on these apps

Also the fact btc dipped about a week ago probably when you requested looks suspect. Your agent probably doesn’t want to shell out more btc when any day the volatility of btc could cause a spike which would mean he could pay you in less btc for the same cash amount.

The fact you paid 5% and btc is supposed to be instant is a really bad look. But it doesn’t surprise me as I’ve seen multiple different agents do the chip dance where they are forced to offset deposits w cashouts. I call it the juggling act. I’ve noticed even if they have the money sending 10k at once is still a tall order and many agents have to personally cover and are waiting for money from other managers and agents.

There’s a reason people call this app ponzi bros.

5% fee damn that’s tough

Maybe you should think about getting a new agent.
I have worked with 4 different agents for PB and none of them charged withdrawal fees.
5% is a lot, especially if they are using BC.

whats the best union/club for sit and goes 6 max/9max or HUsngs.

Thanks for the response guys

Yea I agree 5% is a lot. Reason I stuck with this agent is that it is a wellknown figure, so thought that would count for something in terms of security, which means a lot to me.

But I think I will try find someone else now moving forward.

Maybe I should try out some of those 2+2 agents listed here in the thread.

Taking more than a week and paying 5% are both red flags imo.

Any chip sale shouldn't take more than a week absolute max (should normally be much faster), and generally only BBJ hits or large MTT scores could potentially take that long.

Just want to let you know I was messaged last night on telegram out of blue by someone claiming to be Bryce. The username is BryceDaifuku, I think, they said they no longer use two plus two and trade on Skype groups. When I researched and brought this post to their attention with a screenshot they deleted the chat. So I’m assuming this is still going on unless that actually was Bryce and people should be careful.

Hi everyone. Tell me the club with the most traffic.

what limit and game do you play?

Hi guys,
i am playing mid stakes in a bigger union since a couple of months. Traffic is pretty good and games are soft(related to stars or something :-)). My agent is a guy i know personally (face to face) getting no rakeback but also pay no fee, so everything is fine.
He was asking me to stake me for the highstakes games at this site. I would do it but also wanna grind the midstakes on my own (nl1k+ isnt running all the time).
For this he said he would create me another account....
Is this possible? I meen can this cause problems?
Finally i don`t wanny get banned because of multiaccounting...
I don`t have a lot of experience on pokerbros so maybe my questions are stupid..
thx guys

Of course you can create as much accounts as you want.Specially if you use and play on different devices.
Playing midstakes and highstakes with 0 rakeback is not fine.You re donating few k$ a month to him.

Hes giving you 0 rakeback and wants your action, sounds like you're getting totally screwed. Anything below 40% rakeback on non private game on bros is bad. There are a ton of agents that's trying to find players out there it shouldn't be hard to find a better one. Also withdrawal fees are just a way for clubs/agents to make even more money off players(as if the rake wasn't high enough).

Hi guys,
thanks for your answers. You are right, when playing higher stakes rakeback has to be obvious...
It is not a problem to use 2 accounts with same device (not same time obv. :-))? there is no VPN allowed and IP restriction at this club.
Thx for your help, good time and good luck at the tables.

You can use as many accounts as you want.

You can also use them at the same time because the software will prevent you from sitting more than one account at the same table. (At least this is true when using emulators. I'm pretty sure it also is true if you're using mobile devices on the same IP.)

As others have said, you should be receiving rake back. You could check out the agents who advertise in this thread and see what they offer you.

lol this software is so bad.


straddle to $8, call, fold, I raise pot like 33.5 and change, straddle scall, first guy to call $8 goes all in for $36 all day (he had a $36 stack) or something and it reopens the door for me to jam.

here are the exact figures

my raise was 31.5 on top of the $1 bb. I was the bb. then MP, the straddler, calls 24.50 more (on top of his 8). then CO, the limper / guy who called eight, goes all in for $27.75 on top of the 8 he already called. this somehow opened the door for me to jam.

looking for agent on pokerbros

Poker Bros agents used to advertise on Facebook to acquire new players. I don't think this still happens, but during that period I joined three different clubs. One in particular, in the Diamond Union, quickly became my preferred club because it offered the greatest game selection and decent rakeback. I should note that I am a rec player; not a pro, not trying to play high stakes or anything of the sort. But I do take the game seriously and I value my money (in other words, I'm not a degen.)

A few days ago I tried to log on but a message popped up saying the club was suspended, and also my account showed $0. I messaged my contact and he told me the club owner cleaned out all funds in the player accounts and blew it on sports betting. He said the club has been suspended on suspicion of fraud but he is going to take the hit and reimburse his players.

It then occurred to me that I have no idea who I am dealing with. This agent is literally just someone who put out an ad on Facebook and I've since exchanged money with via Cashapp. There is nothing stopping them from just ghosting me and blocking me from any online contact. We're not talking about a huge amount of money, but still I was nervous that I was just screwed.

Fortunately, the guy kept his word and sent me my funds, but he said he's done being an agent because it's too much of a risk.

So here are my questions:
1. What is the role of an "agent" on poker bros? Is there any vetting process to ensure they can be trusted?

2. What is the role of the "club owner?" Does this person simply have access to all the money in their club?

3. What is the "union" and what is its role?

4. Has anyone else experienced anything of this sort on pbros or a similar site? Are there legal actions that could be taken if you get scammed?

I know this is a lot but any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.

I will try to answer your first three questions:

1. You can think of an agent as an affiliate marketer, but more involved. Their role is to bring new players into the club(s) for which they agent, and manage and offer customer support to these players, in exchange for a % of the fees that their players generate. It is up to the player to decide for themselves whether they believe their agent is trustworthy. Some clubs will only accept agents they believe are trustworthy, but you can't rely on that. AFAIK, Facebook does not vet agents (or any small businesses that run FB ads) for trustworthiness.

2. A club owner owns and operates one or more clubs, each one either within a specific union, or a smaller private club. There is more accounting and work involved in this, as they have to: deal with union heads, communicate with other clubs, manage their own agents as well as their own direct players (club owners can and often do function as agents as well), manage any support staff, and there are all sorts of various fees and structures/arrangements. In general, a "random" club owner that operates a club in a large union can be trusted more than a "random" agent, because unions will generally not bring in clubs they do not trust (it's not easy to get your club into a big union). That said, there have been plenty of club owners who have scammed and stolen from people. Whether they "have access to all the money in their club" is not so simple... For instance, larger agents tend to operate on credit, so usually the agents will be holding their own players' deposits, and then the agent and club owner will settle up at the end of each week for the agent's players' wins or losses. Also calling the chips "money" is not entirely accurate for a variety of reasons. But the club owner can move the chips within their club around however they want.

3. A union is a collection of clubs which all share the same player pool/tables. Union heads charge each club a % of the fee they generate, in exchange for managing the union (cross-club settlements, running tables, providing liquidity, etc.), in addition to "eco taxes/rebates" which in short punishes winning clubs and rewards losing clubs, with the intent of keeping the ecosystem healthy and more sustainable.

Hope that helps some and feel free to PM me with any more questions.

Lots of posts in this thread regarding cash players on PB. Anyone here a profitable reg focused on MTTs? Particularly interested in those playing in Diamond Union, which I’m in. I’ve made a couple FTs, nothing too crazy, but just curious about other people’s experiences on there. And play styles that are most profitable there vs traditional online poker sites. Thanks.

I know a lot of people who win at mtts there. Keep in mind that structures are really turbo-y though, especially late stages.

It makes sense/won't change. (Most rec players likely don't want to grind 14 hours on a phone app, and they are the target market for these.)

what is the max amount of tables we can play on poker bros?

As many as you can handle. More than 20 might be tough though.

4 tables on 1 device,could add more with emulator and another account.

It is hard to play more at least for me cause of timebanks and being able to tile tables.

Hi,
is the PT4 stat "my currency rake attributed" showing me the original rake I pay on pokerbros?
And how much is the rake exactly on this site ?

Thx