Thank you !

I do agree that the biggest benefactors will be bots and collusive players. Without HUD and player's monitoring such behavior, the environment will be rich for bots who play perfect GTO. They will destroy the recreational players with no defense.

Collusion will also be near impossible to monitor.

I tend to agree traffic will decline, but disagree with 90%. More like 20-30%. Most recreational players don't care much about the HUD, many don't even know what it is.

There is a specific subgroup of players who are more familiar with poker but are considered "recreational" players. These players will be happy. The proportion in terms of the entire community I think they are about 10% of the total ecology.

When you add up all the sums of the equation, I firmly believe traffic will drop, as multi-tablers and regs account for 75-80% of the total ecology, and I believe a decent amount will leave.

To recap :
10% happy
90% unhappy

And that's BEFORE the boting and collusion starts

I dunno Party ...
Maybe you should consider keeping things how they are without seat scripts and scanning software before you go removing downloadable hand histories ?

I can play without a HUD. I used to even play on HUD less site. The reason I refused was that people keep using HUD with scrappers when I couldn't and I was tired of constantly playing with disadvantage.
They can not enforce HUD ban; people will keep using it. They should do what Pokerstars/FTP did so force HM/PT4 to limit the data avaliable. While not a perfect solution it would give people at least some sort of level playing field. They can push it even further and allow only a very basic HUD. Again not a perfect solution but it would give honest people something when playing against scummy reg using hand grabbers and using not limited and fully functional HUD+note caddy.
People exploited segregation,exploited causal games and will exploit new system.

Thanks for confirmation

This is not "stealing" but has been an error you have made when requesting your withdrawal. You need to select the currency you wish to withdraw in - the system Neteller use defaults to AUD
Unfortunate but nothing we can do about it - sorry.

Kind regards,

Colette

Has anyone ever had an issue withdrawing via "fast bank transfer"? Both my PP account and bank account are in EUR and my bank does not charge any fee for incoming transfers, but I received 30 EUR less than I was supposed to. Sent an e-mail to them and they said they forwarded it to the payments team, but that was one week ago.

This was my first time cashing out on Party. On Stars, I've always received the full amount of the withdrawal when using this method.

Any chance I will be reimbursed?

Always gotten same amount with fast bank transfer euro to euro

@Lessu: Your bank is of which country?

It seems that the loss of funds was probably due to intermediary bank charges.

I had a player make a post on my PC&G thread. He received, not one BUT THREE bonuses. He was "added 2x 1000$ and 1x 5000$". He won't be able to clear the $5000 bonus let alone another two $1000 bonuses. Is this how PartyPoker determines who is 'targeted' for the bonus? As long as you don't ever put in the volume they will give you great bonuses . I want one, just one....

Finland

Same here. I dont get this random system too

I don't think its random, I think they have a list of people that get excluded entirely.

Well never get a bonus doesn't matter if on Party or Bwin . Consistently winning around the same I rake so I assume thats the reason but I don't really table select and never leave the 5 reg table first waiting that maybe fish will join.

Lol why would they give players like you a bonus?

They want winning grinders off the site

They have already screwed every winning player over in everyway possible over the last few years, havent improved their software hardly ever and people like you are still there

It must be on your profile by now that they have your unconditional business

Anyone who tries to commit to "serious volume" at Party these days is crazy if they think you will get anything extra from them

Edit: Collette will probably come in and spite give you a bonus to prove me wrong, if yes, youre welcome in advance

Bonus' are given to people to encourage them to grind more.

For instance, I got a $5k one even though I moved my bankroll off the site to encourage me to play more.

Makes no financial sense to give big bonus' to people who grind max already, except to keep them on the site. And party have made a big play for the recs etc so I don't think that would be at the top of their priorities.

People here seem to forget that party is a business, who will do everything they can to maximise profits. As they should.

Only they are in the best position to judge which value they lose and gain in certain situations.

Plenty of big grinders got the bonus though. It's pretty random.

Got 5$k bonus. Used to rake 100k annually but got screwed over by all the no warning changes over and over. Sorry party but I used to be loyal to you but now I'm loyal elsewhere until they screw me over like you did . #no to ~50% rakeback for a month #this ship has sailed

Im pretty sure its random. Whatever their big named action is called "Poker for people" with this its "Poker For Choosen People".

Anyway I withdrawed all my bankroll from Party (with this magical 3% fee that only exist on Party) and I will wait for better times to return. Or not.

Can't think of any reason why it'd be random. There will be some criteria surely.

Also, my GoPlay cashouts are being approved instantly but taking hours and hours to actually arrive unlike the usual hour or so before.

I'm a big winner and got the 5k bonus. I usually rake 1k usd/month.

Maybe it would be better to make the account currency the default one.

Rather than AUD?!

Anyone who thinks "Poker for the People" is anything but a masquerade is delusional. The primary objective of these changes is to avoid negative exposure to the press about rampant bots on Partypoker.

Most of Party's revenue is generated from sports betting and casino. I'm sure management could care less about bots on their poker platform.

Fwiw I hardly play on the site and am winning over the history and they also gave me that 5k bonus. Have not played a game since August or so, so Id say its random

When will HUDs stop working on party? I can't seem to find any link with an official date.