#lol

lol nice catch pokerbiker

i am still wondering if its fraud.

announcing a promotion which last a month, but where u can just win in the first 3 days, look a bit like that

100% extra (Max £250.00 GBP ($402.53 USD))
Valid at
PartyPoker.com
Delivery method
10 installments of 10.0% of deposit amount
Type
Release restricted
Time left to claim
105 days
Min deposit
$24.15
Time to clear
120 days
Bonus code: 0
100% extra (Max £250.00 GBP ($402.53 USD))
Claim Now
Release conditions
Released in 10 equal installments of 10.0% of deposit amount. Each installment is issued when:


Standard Points = 0.75 times the bonus amount on PartyPoker.com


Anyone know how many points I need to clear this, can't get an answer off support

from info@partypoker.com info@partypoker.com
to xxx
date Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:35 AM
subject Response from PartyPoker.com (KMM18239xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
mailed-by partypoker.com
I


Dear xxx,



Thank you for contacting Customer Service.



I can assure you that the cities are given randomly by the system and there are no rare cities.



Ok... then... get your stories straight.

FYP

FWIW, I'm not sure if they ever 100% declared it during the "card rush" promo, but that was also absolutely not random and I have data to show as much up to a 99%+ confidence interval (NoahSD helped and confirmed), but figured releasing the info would cause more harm than good.... perhaps I was wrong

I wish so badly I could be a position to do more, for example with this I could get NoahSD to look again really look @ how the promo was setup and determine a fair solution.

i was looking throught the gibraltar gambling act but havent been able to find anything.

there are some rules for non-remote lotteries, but they didnt seem to apply to remote lotteries.

but if you can provide the statistics, i will take a look a the gambling act again.

Per USD in bonus, you need 6 points. So if you deposit $100, you get $10 for every 60 points. You get 2 points for every USD spent in rake. So basically the bonus is 33% rakeback.

ah they are back advertising bonuses in this scammy way now too.

so you get 10x bonuses worth of £25 and for each £25 you need to play 0.75x250=187.5 points (rake $93.75) so it is pretty good bonus. how did you get it?

Thanks for clarifying this.

If it was intentional to give out so much more on the first two days (ie: 2*400k + 10*20k = 1M, or whatever it was...) then I think if it ever runs again it would be better to distribute it evenly for the sake of people's perception of the promotion overall being fair.

Juk

Has anyone gotten a Column 3 City lately?

No they were clearly not. This is complete bull****. How can you not admit that the distribution was not random in face of all of the overwhelming evidence that was collected by players? It's been scientifically proven that the distribution was not random.

You did something wrong and you're not decent enough to admit it. We get it and I guess people who have dealt with partypoker for several years expected nothing more.

Exactly 400 cities now, didn't play on the first two days.

0 cities in column 3
cash prize: $61
Points: 330

all freerolls

:')

i mite be off here but am i right in thinking party have done absolutely nothing wrong in rigging the promo in the sense of gambling rules n regs? this is just a marketing promo in alderney's eyes, as long as they haven't rigged the poker rng then their gona be like whogivesa****?

so we're just wasting our time bitching n moaning about the ****s that overloaded the promo on the 1st day leik the meth dealers they are

pick your tool, afaik they are listed on the UK SE, the "Act Against Unfair Practices" is pretty clear in terms of practices for misleading consumers.

which is obv the case here, when they do a 2month promo where u have a zero chance of winning when u didnt participate int he first 3 days. it missleads people to play more because of the chance of winning, which doesnt exist.

might be an idea for consumerism

I empathize with their situation... either someone screwed up the software or someone had a bad idea thinking it would be good to way frontload the promo (it might have even worked for them if it hadn't been so overdone, and we wouldn't ahve even noticed)... but I also agree that this is awfully close to fraudulent... especially the defenses claiming that it's fully random, but not explaining that the pool of valuable cities has already been completely or at least mostly depleted.

some of us have a tough time justifying playing on Party when their monthly promotion is so bad. I get raked so much more here than i did before, i think you're going to see a large number of players take breaks until the next promotion starts, assuming it's a good one.

for those saying that it's a lie that they weren't handed out randomly, you're not taking into account that it's possible that they had less of the "rare" cities available, but you were just as likely to hit them as any other city, or less likely but not distributed widely enough to make them last 2 months.

so they gave them out randomly, and the pool of rare cities was depleted after 2 days

this makes sense. most people who got c3 cities on day 2 got low value ones. I assume there were more of those than high value ones. half decent cash cities not from c3 were probably gone the next day

Yeah I think this explanation makes the most sense and is probably what happened. It looks like a programmer screwed up big time here. Rephrasing what you said:

-They load 100 of 'rare' city x.
-They load 100000 of all the other cities.
-They pick which city you get by drawing a number 1-72 instead of putting all the cities into a 'pool' and drawing one at random from that.

So all rare cities are now likely gone or practically gone. It also means support has actually been telling the truth in their seemingly contradictory emails. Your odds of getting any city were 1/72, there also were rare cities. I'm betting at least one person lost their job over this. Too bad, this could have been a fun promo.

There is quite a few posters here who need to learn the meaning of the word: random

Random does not imply equal probability!!

Random just means the outcome is uncertain. PartyRep does admit that some cities are more rare than others.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

^^^^^ A man with some sense.

Im tired of these Sit-Out players ruining the games. I don't care about bum hunters who sit in, but taking position and sitting out is just ridiculous when two regs are playing heads up. If this type of behavior continues eventually all the games will end up being a bum hunting fest. Look at the high stakes games, the 10/20 and 20/50 games, 4 players sitting out... If I were a recreational player I would now want to play in a game where it obviously looks like im being targeted and players are colluding. Its bad for regular players and the site in the long run. Is party poker doing something about this? Any comments from Party Rep? I propose we sign an online petition if something isnt done. Sites like PokerStars have started suspending accounts for players who abuse the sit-out function for un-sportsman conduct. I think Party should implement a similar system in which players can report "sit-out" players and those players should get their accounts suspended temporarily if proven. They should also hire someone to observe the tables to make sure this type of behavior is prevented.

whatever, whoever, dont give a ****

fact is, when u start now (!!!) participating in the promo u have 0% chance of winning

For the 200JULY bonus code, can I withdraw then deposit money to get the bonus, I'm assuming not?

^ You can

Sick, Thank you very much