no, it's not hard for them (since it's Party and hey, "yes we can")

They do that even on their highest stakes, see this post.

Shame on you PP mafia

might as well rig the rng to benefit the casual players since they are so "concerned" about them. they better release a statement regarding this...what they did was flat out unethical and breach of trust implementing this without any announcement, hoping no one will notice.

Most shocking part is obv that they didn't warn us they would segregrate the playerpools and thought that no one would notice, just can't understand how you can be so naive

There is no difference. It can be proven very easily as party has already with their 'extensive research' that player pool effects you chances of winning.

If they continue with this line of thinking I am certain they will lose their gaming license (lol, probably not their current worthless one) - they will not be able to operate legally in the US with a rigged lobby.

If your a current Reg on Party you should contact your lawyer immediately, since this may have already effected the games you play in.

If something is written in PartyPokers TOS, it doesn't overide the law. If they put in their TOS "we reserve the right to rig the deck and sometimes deal certain players losing hands".. It wouldn't make any difference, they still would not be allowed to do that.

I have sold all Bwin.Party shares as I see this company going bankrupt or facing a huge lawsuit pretty soon.

I am also in the process of writing an email to the Nevada and New Jersey gaming commission, which will explain this situation in detail and outline why it is important sites like PartyPoker do not receive a US gaming license.

makes me wonder what else they have done that we havent found out yet and might never know about

As anyone figured out if they have also been able to, somehow, segregate the player pool within FF tables?

The bwin tables are filtered for wait<5. The extra tables on party are the ones with more than 5 players in the waitlist.

Has it been shown if the tables that are being hidden from winning regs are also hidden from anyone viewing the lobby without being logged in? If they are what happens when a recreational player is playing and wants his buddy to watch him play? If the table is hidden he's going to email party support and what are they going to say - using our super advanced player ranking algorithm we have decided that you are so bad at poker we have to hide any tables you're playing from the lobby to protect you from losing your money too fast?

Telling weak players they're weak sure sounds like a good way to improve the poker room ecology.

This is clear discrimination of certain players and giving others an unfair advantage.

Not comparable to the iPoker spilt, which is not unfair as you can choose to play on iPoker 1 or 2 and you have access to all the tables of the sub-network.

no, it's not hard for them (since it's Party and hey, "yes we can")

They do that even on their highest stakes, see this post.

edit:

updated the screenshot

Hey! This is unfair!!! Party_Rep?

I see 10 tables with 6 players, 1 table with 3 players and 5 tables with 1 player on both accounts. Few more empty tables on right side account for some reason.

*puts on tin foil hat*

My theory is they're not announcing it because they're testing it over the next few days and if they decide it's not worth it/there's too much backlash they can just say "herp derp was just a bug but we fixed it!" and expect everyone to believe them.

On the off chance that happens I'm quoting the **** out of this and basking in the glory of calling it.

lol

id like to have 5% rakeback more likely than this :P

so your cities and countries promo was quite nice compared

surely they can't be segregating the fast forward tables as well?

So it says that the World Promo is ended.

This violates their own T&C that the promo would end on "23:59 ET on 1st March, or when all the cities have been conquered" I see on the promo page that they still have 1.7 million cities to be awarded.

Their own software screwed up when they couldn't award any new cities after 17:20 yesterday.

"We are continually looking for ways to balance our poker room ecology. As we have said before, we are testing various features to make poker a more fun and entertaining game for both new and inexperienced players. Our extensive research shows that new and inexperienced players enjoy the game more and continue playing for longer if in the early stages they play with players of a similar ability, this includes, but is not limited to our welcome lounges. These players are free to play on any table they chose."

if your read this they talk about new players and in the early stages.

If this is only implemented in case it´s a new account that´s losing in the beginning and they get to play with worse players for a month or two I can think that´s ok.

But party doesn´t explain so hard to know

vip support still has no idea this is happening. said they are still waiting for official confirmation from upper management. but he quoted thier T&C when i asked about how they implement something like this without any announcement first.

"6.1. We reserve the right to suspend, modify, remove and/or add to any of the Services in its sole discretion with immediate effect and without notice and We will not be liable for any such action."

Maybe no segregating as such, but they could easily make it so that players play a greater number of hands vs players of their own skill level. With a bigger player pool they could make it the perfect rake trap imo.

They really need to clarify exactly wtf is going on anyway.

The problem is that their claim aren't true at all. It isn't only for new account which has been proven already by guys that made the youtube videos. Basically almost all fish no matter how long they play are in this segregated player pool so if they try to use the quick seat feuture they will get redirected to the fishy tables instead to any normal tables.

Most of us wouldn't be probably so against the changes if that was the case (I mean that completely new players can play on the begginer tables so they wouldn't get curshed and insta quit from poker).

The problem is that they try to separate almost any losing drooler from the normal player pool in order to make poker another casino game where everyone is losing. Basically ideally for Party everyone should be playing with people that have equal poker skill so they all would be losing to the rake. Thats the problem.

This is first site that we can officially say that is rigged. There is no difference between rigging the RNG or rigging the player pool itself so you would not be able to play with players worse than you.

this new promo wtf ??

Earn 25 more PartyPoints at PartyPoker to receive a card.
We're giving away 2856 cards.

This has to be a mistake right, 2856 cards ??!!

I got some error with my account when i try to log in, get a pop up that tells me to contact support by phone and a few numbers. The number I should use do not work, so I sended a email to your support 5 days ago, still don't got a answear. Sended a new mail 3 days ago without a answear aswell. In the pop up box it said that I should contact you asap. Whats going on? is my money at risk?

Those cards are only for the silver player pool and I think (hope) it gets refreshed every day. We'll find out tomorrow either way.