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09-11-2015 , 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by young_bluffkin
They are telling me I need to do a bank wire, fill out form, and provide additional documentation. Making me jump through hoops and wait forever for my money.
I will literally jump through hoops for my money. While on fire. I think it's less risky.
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09-11-2015 , 05:54 PM
my Skrill withdrawal(10k may 25.)was also taken away. I requested wire transfer for 5k earlier today and I just got a message from them that it has been processed and sent to payment processor - good news.
I immediately requested another one for 5k.
I will update when money is in my bank account, don't know how long it will take. early next week?
ROW

Last edited by MXT; 09-11-2015 at 06:18 PM.
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09-11-2015 , 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXT
my Skrill withdrawal(10k may 25.)was also taken away. I requested wire transfer for 5k earlier today and I just got a message from them that it has been processed and sent to payment processor - good news.
I immediately requested another one for 5k.
I will update when money is in my bank account, don't know how long it will take. early next week?
Sounds good.
Keep us updated. 5k Still pending since August 4th.
[Merge Network] Carbon/ Sportsbook/ PlayersOnly - Deposit/ Withdrawal Thread Quote
09-11-2015 , 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bringmehome
I just spoke to Glynn from the Antigua Gaming Commission on the phone for about 2-3 minutes.

-I asked him several times about liquidity and solvency and he said that it is not a liquidity or solvency issue. He repeated this several times. It's a problem with payment processors.

-I did ask him why Carbon was unique when no other site is facing these issues and he just said "from what they have seen, they are having serious problems with certain payment processors, which is causing delays"
I spoke with Optimal Payments and they assured that they have no issues with their Skrill and Neteller transfer processing.


Quote:
Originally Posted by bringmehome
-Asked him if they specifically monitor to make sure adequate cash is kept on hand and he said yes.
This is a blatant lie! Even the Isle of Man Gambling Supervision(lol) Commision with their allegedly 3 steps security system don't know if an operator has money or not.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatsMySpot
Appreciate you post this. Still, not sure if they can lie (legally), and the answer is still vague and doesn't guarantee anything... on the other hand, I still don't buy that they have issues with processors and can't change processor on almost 5 months.
They can legally lie however they like as you would have to sue them in Antigua and Barbuda. Good luck!


Quote:
Originally Posted by thescubatim
Well, I don't know how contract law is where Merge is based out of, but if you sign a business contract with a company (IE payment processor) you're pretty much stuck with them until the contract runs out in the U.S. You can breach the contract, but obviously there are repercussions for doing so, which would be outlined in the contract and it also opens you up to a lawsuit by the other company for breach of contract.

Although in Merge's case, they're going to die anyway so unless contract law is even stiffer there, taking the hit would be in their best long-term interest.
Contracts for illegal money transfers to the U.S. are not valid.
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09-11-2015 , 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXT
my Skrill withdrawal(10k may 25.)was also taken away. I requested wire transfer for 5k earlier today and I just got a message from them that it has been processed and sent to payment processor - good news.
I immediately requested another one for 5k.
I will update when money is in my bank account, don't know how long it will take. early next week?
ROW
Processed in the same day as requested?
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09-11-2015 , 07:07 PM
It's been about another twelve days since the last update. Let's take a look at what has been going on.

Average Merge withdrawal wait times from last update (for comparison):

Checks: 89.77 days
Bankwires: 42 days
Skrill: 90.2 days

Average wait times from today's updated list (which follows below):

Checks (n=50) reported processed and recorded with complete information:
81.72 days

Bankwires (n=4) reported processed and recorded with complete information:
40.74 days

Skrill (n=5) reported processed and recorded with complete information:
90.4 days

A few notes:

Average wait times for checks and wires have gone down by a few days since last update. Average wait times for skrill have remained the same.

However, it is important to make note of other things that have been going on besides average wait times:

The size of the pending checks list has grown larger than I believe it has been since I started reporting. The size of the recently processed checks list has gone down considerably, to a smaller size than it has been since the info base first filled up.

There are only 5 successful skrill cashouts reported in the last 5 weeks, and there are only 4 successful wire cashouts reported in the last 5 weeks. The size of the pending skrill/wire list has gone up to 25 entries, and this does NOT include the list of players who have had their skrill withdrawals cancelled yesterday, some of whom were waiting 3+ months already. On this note, the list of failed withdrawals has grown to a significant 20 failures. This is a serious concern to many players.

On a more positive note, one player (MXT) reported a quick wire process after his skrill was cancelled.

The above averages are somewhat generous towards Merge in that if a player posts full information up to the process date but does not post the CIH date, I am giving Merge the benefit of the doubt and the benefit of a few days by calculating the time it took until the process date. If I find full information I count the days until CIH.

The above averages include any outliers that arise for better or worse. gdsfather, for example, reported two check withdrawals processed in the last 5 weeks which clocked in at 7 and 20 days. On the other hand, MXT's report yields what I consider to be a very long wait time. If such outliers are removed, the average wait time for checks goes up to 84.56 days, and skrill goes down to 86 days.

These wait times are not my prediction for how long cashouts will take if they are requested now or at any time in the future. In fact I make no predictions for how long they will take.

Below are the lists of pending and processed Merge withdrawals from which the above averages are drawn. If you would like to be added to one of these lists, please post here or PM me with your information. If you see any misinformation about yourself, please post or PM. However, if you see misinformation about another 2p2 member and would like to report that, a PM is preferred.

Please note that I am not consistently recording reports made before a check is 5 weeks old or before a wire/skrill is 2 weeks old (though I am recording some and leaving them off the list), so you may want to report it again when those times have elapsed. I am also not sifting through the Merge Discussion thread looking for reports - just this thread, which is specific to cashouts.

I am removing names off the processed lists once the process dates become 5 weeks old. I am doing this so as to focus the list on recent withdrawals, as my purpose is to keep track of how long withdrawals are taking recently, not to keep track of very old withdrawals.

I am also dropping names off the pending lists if they were PMed for an update and did not report back. If those users do PM in the future, and the information falls within the parameters of these lists, their names will be added back.

Checks yet pending beyond 5 weeks
(2p2name/requested/amount)

imawhale26 (staked player)/April 16 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
imawhale26 (staked player)/April 22 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
imawhale26 (staked player)/April 26 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
imawhale26 (staked player)/April 30 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
imawhale26 (staked player)/May 3 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
imawhale26 (staked player A)/May 7 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
imawhale26 (staked player B)/May 7 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
JWReichert/May 10/$1500 (updated August 12)
O'Con Sweed/May 18/max (updated August 18)
imawhale26 (staked player)/May 18 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
imawhale26 (staked player)/May 20 (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
sharknegie/May 20/max (updated August 18)
twotimes/May 22 (updated August 15)
MikeyH505/May 26/max (Updated August 29)
makomonty/May 26 (updated Sept 3)
MrSoloDolo17/May 27 (updated August 4)/max
SensesFailed/May 28 (updated August 18)
Scruff McGruff/May 29/$1000
kevmode/June 1 (updated August 7)
hussainsajwani/June 2 (updated August 19)
imawhale26 (staked player A)/June 4
imawhale26 (staked player B)/June 4
Lets Gambool/June 8/max (updated August 24)
imawhale26 (staked player A)/June 9
imawhale26 (staked player B)/June 9
imawhale26 (staked player C)/June 9
biz-nitch/June 9/max (updated Sept 8)
catfan17/June 9
mtndewrules/June 10
Jbc123/June 11/max (updated Sept 11)
^beyond 3 months^
TheJiggler/June 12/max
Fanch/June 13
dwmsage32/June 14/$1350 (Updated August 27)
nizzwsop/June 18
clfst17/June 19/max (updated Sept 4)
a octopus/June 20/max (updated Sept 10)
lasailor/June 22/$200
8Wallace8/June 24/$1000 (updated Sept 10)
mbogdan01/June 28
dutch25/June 28
imawhale26 (staked player)/June 29
kevin6651/June 30 (Updated Sept 11)
lucky-charms/July 2/max
.isolated/July 2/$898
imawhale26 (staked player)/July 2
CheckaLaysa/July 2
Wingpin/July 3/max (updated Sept 7)
ThatsAGoodCard/July 4
Fubster/July 7/max (updated Sept 6)
JTrub3/July 9/max (updated Sept 10)
Ship4815162342/July 10/max
imawhale26 (staked player)/July 10
Jackmayhofer/July 17/max
imawhale26 (staked player A)/July 17
imawhale26 (staked player B)/July 17
^beyond 8 weeks^
morphingbuildups/July 20/max
WowLucky/July 20/max
thescubatim/July 23
PokerVegan/July 25/$425 (updated Sept 8)
woldy/July 27
ChameleoOon/July 27
thescubatim/July 28/$783
DrDaminal/July 28/max
fatsteve/July 29/$1000
imawhale26 (staked player)/July 30
imawhale26 (staked player)/July 31

Collected = 66 withdrawals


Checks processed in last 5 weeks
(2p2name/requested/processed/CIH?/amount)

jslab24/April 30/August 10/?/max (102 days)
Mohawkgolf/April 30/August 10/?/max (101 days)
LETIGRA/late April-early May/?/August 13/max (105 days)
BTpoker/May 1/>WU August 10 >check August 11/August 14 (106 days)
peny87/May 3/August 10/?/$1200 (99 days)
AMKINLA/May 4/August 10/August 12/$1970 (100 days)
BLACK17/May 4/August 14/? (102 days)
the real mg0698/May 6/August 11/? (97 days)
Nooo Whammy/May 6/?/August 25 (111 days)
TucoRamirez/May 7/August 13/August 20/max (105 days)
Results Oriental/May 7/August 11/August 25/max (110 days)
Yellowbastard/May 7/August 13/August 19/$2xxx (104 days)
eric79/May 9/August 13/?/ (96 days)
SantaMuerte/May 10/August 13/August 18/$650 (100 days)
Atlantis/May 10/?/August 14 (96 days)
rodeo/May 11/August 19/August 21/max (102 days)
pgt4jc/May 11/August 19/August 21/max (102 days)
trent32la/May 12/August 12/? (92 days)
de0/May 12/>WU August 14/? (94 days)
DrizzFizz/May 14/August 20/?/max (97 days)
bm303/May 14/August 24/? (102 days)
ax345/May 15/>p2p August 13/August 18 (95 days)
mgv1208/May 16/August 12/August 14/$1200 (90 days)
ynot825/May 18/August 27/Sept 11 (115 days)
PANKLER/May 18/August 27/Sept 1 (106 days)
AMAZ1NG/May 18/August 27/?/>$1000 (101 days)
Barrister123/May 18/>WU ?/August 17 (101 days)
eventhugscry/May 20/August 12/?/$1,000+ (83 days)
markpal/May 22/Yes/Early Sept/max (~100 days)
Seriously??/May 22/August 27/August 31/$1800 (101 days)
rhettben555/May 26/>p2p August 21/? (87 days)
bringmehome/May 27/August 11/August 14/max (79 days)
Electrum/May 28/?/August 14/max (78 days)
EvalEvan/June 1/August 19/?/max (79 days)
boo__zer/June 1/August 12/August 14/max (74 days)
RalphWaldoEmerson/June 7/August 27/August 31/$1200 (85 days)
Whatever_f_off/June 9/August 19/?/max (71 days)
runsdeep/June 15/>p2p Sept 7/? (84 days)
Epically/June 16/August 19/?/max (64 days)
StackEmUp/June 16/August 19/?/max (64 days)
seantiger123/June 21/August 12/?/max (52 days)
jeffreyjjj/June 22/Sept 3/?/max (73 days)
derSchwartz/June 23/August 13/August 20/$328 (58 days)
anteatereater/July 6/August 19/August 21/max (46 days)
jasonjason/July 9/Sept 3/max (54 days)
chipdozer/July 10/August 13/? (34 days)
lvcjarrett/July 17/August 13/? (27 days)
gdsfather/July 24/August 13/? (20 day)
413AceKing/July 30/Sept 3/$1,8XX (35 days)
gdsfather/August 13/August 20 (7 days)

Collected = 50 withdrawals


Bankwire/Skrill yet outstanding beyond 2 weeks
(2p2name/requested/amount)10

imawhale26 (staked player)/May 2 (skrill) (PM sent requesting update Sept 11)
Macar/May 2 (skrill)/$370 (updated August 20)
suchsickaments (horse)/May 5 (skrill) (updated August 6)
Jocard333/May 11 (skrill)/$5000 (updated August 5)
ericholderzzz/May 18 (skrill)/$50 (Updated August 20)
lazyphlounder/May 18 (skrill)/$10,000 (Updated August 14)
johnycakes99/May 25 (bankwire)/max (PM sent for update August 17)
AuroythmiX (friend, ROW)/Late June (skrill)/$200 (updated August 10)
charlietheunicorn/June 1 (skrill) (updated July 17)
Kind_fairy/June 4 (skrill)/$3000 (Updated August 29)
Fifczej/June 20 (skrill)/$5000
PokerInsiderMan/June 22 (bankwire)/$1265
ninm (row)/June 23 (skrill)/$5000
MajorIt/early July (skrill) (updated August 29)
donkey_king/July 1 (skrill)/max
Merovingian1/July 5 (skrill)/$4000
Somakid314 (ROW)/July 9 (wire)/?/max
Merovingian1/July 9 (skrill)/$4000 (Updated August 19)
FredericMoreau/July 10 (skrill)
surfsk869/July 12 (skrill)/$5000 (updated August 30)
jayg320/August 3 (wire) (updated Sept 9)
I_buZZ/August 4 (wire)/$5000 (updated Sept 10)
chinamaniac/August 5 (wire)
Zenzor (row)/August 5 (wire)/$5000 (updated Sept 8)
plappaslappa/August 6 (wire)/max

Collected = 25 withdrawals


Skrill received in the last 5 weeks
(2p2name/requested/received)

thegroupie/April 28/August 26 (120 days)
bellebone/May 24/August 11/$4000 (79 days)
MXT/May 25/>wire Sept 11/$10000 (108 days)
almofadinhas/June 24/Sept 10/$1000 (78 days)
AV7878/June 25/August 31/$5000 (67 days)

Collected = 5 withdrawals


Bankwire processed in the last 5 weeks
(2p2name/requested/processed/CIH?/amount)

waxies_dargle/June 11/August 12/August 18/max (68 days)
Somakid314 (row)/July 9/August 12/August 13/max (35 days)
Abracadabraa/July 13/?/August 12/$5000 (30 days)
Naps/July 14/August 12/August 13 (30 days)

Collected = 4 withdrawals


Unresolved/failed situations from the last 10 weeks
(2p2name/chronology/amount)

>TONZ/old check bounced in January, resent July 2, never comes, money back in Carbon account August 14
>jotsie/March 28 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/$6000
>wrk67/ April 28 (check)/>WU August 6, # rc'd August 7, transaction ID not recognized, Merge support "looking into it
>iDab/April 22/June 18 (>WU?)/June 19 (not cleared July 17)/max
>BTpoker/May 1/>WU August 5, # rec'd August 11, told by WU # does not exist, told by Merge WU no longer option, transaction started over via original method
>k134M/May 2/>p2p August 5, rec'd # August 11, told "no transfer under that number," carbon "looking into it"/$770
>demute/May 3 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10
>strat88990 (mom)/May 29 (wire)/July 9 proc'd, July 22 canceled by Merge
>LZ11/June 12 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/$2200
>sipio/June 25 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/$50
>ThatsMySpot/June 26 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/$700
>UWOkid87/June 26 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/$10000
>Turbulenc3/Late June-Early July (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/$10000
>eaglesfaan/July 6 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/max
>young_bluffkin/July 16 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10
>Poyngep/July 16 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10
>Kooox/July 23 (bankwaire)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/max
>strat88990/July 28 (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/$5000
>Ivan Miwa/? (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10/$1100
>DoGGz/? (skrill)/CANCELLED by Merge Sept 10

Collected = 20 withdrawals

Run well everybody, and best of luck getting your cash off the site.
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09-11-2015 , 07:15 PM
You can add me to the list $24xx check on 8/1/15 still pending.
Still have $4k left to move. Would be nice to get at least some of it by Christmas
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09-11-2015 , 07:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXT
my Skrill withdrawal(10k may 25.)was also taken away. I requested wire transfer for 5k earlier today and I just got a message from them that it has been processed and sent to payment processor - good news.
I immediately requested another one for 5k.
I will update when money is in my bank account, don't know how long it will take. early next week?
ROW
wire processed to a US bank acct or foreign?
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09-11-2015 , 07:48 PM
Max check requested 7/13

Last edited by juicestain100; 09-11-2015 at 07:49 PM. Reason: still pending obv
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09-11-2015 , 07:56 PM
After they cancelled my Skrill cashout yesterday, I immediately requested a Wire transfer. Today, Carbon sent me a message saying it was processede, and indeed it's already "In Progress".

Skrill
Requested July 2nd
Cancelled Sept 10th

Bank Wire
Requested Sept 10th
In Progress Sept 11th

About 1.1k, ROW player.
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09-11-2015 , 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jslab24
Processed in the same day as requested?
Yes
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09-11-2015 , 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by UWOkid87
wire processed to a US bank acct or foreign?
foreign
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09-11-2015 , 10:51 PM
derSchwartz thanks for the update. Could you please take my name off the list my check has been processed and ha ls cleared. If you need the dates just holler.
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09-11-2015 , 11:57 PM
$2500 check, requested Aug 5th, USA. Pending.
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09-12-2015 , 12:15 AM
Max check requested July 30
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09-12-2015 , 12:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bringmehome
I just spoke to Glynn from the Antigua Gaming Commission on the phone for about 2-3 minutes....etc
Thanks for posting. I wrote to them on 9/4 and never received a response after writing in June, getting a response 2 days later, and being processed 7 days after that.
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09-12-2015 , 12:53 AM
Max Check requested 7/31
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09-12-2015 , 01:04 AM
derSchwartz thanks for posting all that info , i forgot to post that i received/deposited/cleared the check at about the 11 week mark
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09-12-2015 , 01:11 AM
Thanks for all the data.

Just registered to add mine.

Max check requested June 9. Still pending.
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09-12-2015 , 11:36 AM
Requested: 5/30
Processed: STILL PENDING!

I was offered P2P transfer but did not fall for that trick. Everything that this company has done in the last 2 years has completely ruined the site and I think they are definitely having money troubles not just processor issues. This was the best site to play on post Black Friday so this is sad to see.

Clearly they do not have players funds segregated and we have all experienced this situation before! My advice to anyone still playing here is to stop wasting your time and try to get all of your money off. I have always been paid by Merge but these payout times and traffic decline should worry anyone still playing here. Seriously though why is anyone still playing here? I predict the death of Merge by the end of the year so luckily this check was the last of my roll on here!

GG GL
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09-12-2015 , 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SiXTrEoFF
I was offered P2P transfer but did not fall for that trick.
what trick? someone correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure everyone in this thread that was offered received their money within a few days.
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09-12-2015 , 12:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SiXTrEoFF
Requested: 5/30
Processed: STILL PENDING!

I was offered P2P transfer but did not fall for that trick. Everything that this company has done in the last 2 years has completely ruined the site and I think they are definitely having money troubles not just processor issues. This was the best site to play on post Black Friday so this is sad to see.

Clearly they do not have players funds segregated and we have all experienced this situation before! My advice to anyone still playing here is to stop wasting your time and try to get all of your money off. I have always been paid by Merge but these payout times and traffic decline should worry anyone still playing here. Seriously though why is anyone still playing here? I predict the death of Merge by the end of the year so luckily this check was the last of my roll on here!

GG GL
lololol
u got em
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09-12-2015 , 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SiXTrEoFF
I was offered P2P transfer but did not fall for that trick.
I'm not fond of Merge lately, but truly this is not a trick. The vast majority of people who took this offer reported receiving their cash within a few days. There were some who had issues but I believe those issues were resolved after some communication with Merge and more waiting. Waiting is what you are already having to do, so I really think you might want to contact them and see if they'll still do it.
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09-12-2015 , 01:11 PM
Shoutout to derSchwartz for sort of picking up the baton on payout waiting times. I know through vast experience that it's a time consuming endeavor, so kudos to him for doing it.
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09-12-2015 , 01:36 PM
6/19: max check requested
9/12: still pending
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