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06-13-2015 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
Please stop talking about subjects you know nothing about. Poker income for carbon is very low. All they really care about is making the casino/sportsbet users happy. Poker is only there because a lot would leave to a casino/sportsbetting network with poker games. This is why they do not give a **** about regs. They want their casino whales to be happy, thats it.

your micro limit rake is nothing to them, they make your monthly rake in 1min of slots play.
probably make more than you... any relation to the MX that was whining about bots making too much money on the site 1-2 pages ago? Please stop arguing both sides. It's not difficult to cater to recreational players (make them a priority) without screwing regs. There isn't a site out there that doesn't attempt to cater to players that make them the most $
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06-13-2015 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
Please stop talking about subjects you know nothing about.
That's the most funny thing you have said in the thread so far. Do you know the saying about the glass house?
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06-13-2015 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rraid4life
probably make more than you...(1) any relation to the MX that was whining about bots making too much money(2) on the site 1-2 pages ago? Please stop arguing both sides. It's not difficult to cater to recreational players (make them a priority) without screwing regs. There isn't a site out there that doesn't attempt to cater to players that make them the most $

1)
Spoiler:

IF you want my credentials, i posted them in the bovada thread

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Originally Posted by rraid4life
carbon (UncledrewforMVP)
2) http://www.pokernews.com/news/2015/0...tion-21860.htm

Im not trying to fight with anyone but why are all these microstake losing players coming at me when i have a lot of experience and connections related to subjects im giving information on?


Am i soon gonna get attacked again for saying that merge pays, after i posted a 2 days 5k payout?


merge pays.
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06-13-2015 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
If they started banning people and taking their money, then that would go onto gambling news websites and the whales on the casinos would hear about it.

Long cashouts(whales dont need cashouts) and limiting of tables is the best way to tick off most regs that are living from poker.
Why follow Carbon a "strategy" which lead to bankruptcy in the case of Lock Poker?
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06-13-2015 , 07:54 PM
Lock pocker had no casino/sportsbetting clientele. Carbon is an extremely old sportsbook/casino with the same whales logging in tons of hours every month for years.

Please stop suggesting stuff and get some facts before coming at me with non-sense.

bottom line is that merge is doing fine and most people are that are spreading lies about it are losing microstakes players that are most likely bored with their lives.
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06-13-2015 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
Lock pocker had no casino/sportsbetting clientele. Carbon is an extremely old sportsbook/casino with the same whales logging in tons of hours every month for years.

Please stop suggesting stuff and get some facts before coming at me with non-sense.

bottom line is that merge is doing fine and most people are that are spreading lies about it are losing microstakes players that are most likely bored with their lives.
Carbon hasn't had a casino for that long. Sportsbook.ag yes, carbon NO, Carbon consists of mainly poker players because that's all they were for years because THEY HAD NO SPORTSBOOK .

I am sure they have some casino revenue but prob not in the same neighborhood as most of the other merge skins like Players Only/ Sportsbook or Superbook.
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06-13-2015 , 08:19 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...20&postcount=1

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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Up until a few moments ago, most of the Merge Gaming Network was on the Merge Cashier. A large percentage of the network including skins such as Carbon Poker, Aced, Sportsbook and Players Only are now on the same cashier. This cashier is independent of the Merge Cashier, and will have different options for both deposits and withdrawals. The withdrawal times will also be different and independent of the Merge Cashier.
I was fairly certain the company behind carbon owns some sort of huge sportsbook/casino. I could be wrong though.

Either way, merge has no problem with payouts.
People need to stop spreading lies about merge.
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06-13-2015 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...20&postcount=1



I was fairly certain the company behind carbon owns some sort of huge sportsbook/casino. I could be wrong though.

Either way, merge has no problem with payouts.
People need to stop spreading lies about merge.
you are misleading. carbon is part of merge and so in a way they do have problems (assuming they are different skins pay differently). saying non carbon merge skins have no problem if you want respect. not agree that what your saying is true. just little adivce
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06-13-2015 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
Lock pocker had no casino/sportsbetting clientele. Carbon is an extremely old sportsbook/casino with the same whales logging in tons of hours every month for years.

Please stop suggesting stuff and get some facts before coming at me with non-sense.

bottom line is that merge is doing fine and most people are that are spreading lies about it are losing microstakes players that are most likely bored with their lives.
How do you know that Lock Casino customers did not play poker?

Are you Brendon or Tengco, otherwise I have no idea how you know the numbers?
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06-13-2015 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by futurized
you are misleading. carbon is part of merge and so in a way they do have problems (assuming they are different skins pay differently). saying non carbon merge skins have no problem if you want respect. not agree that what your saying is true. just little adivce
I just quoted a post that says carbon does not use the merge cashier. Merge's cashflow is good. Carbon/sportsbooks have their own cashier that has nothing to do with the network.
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06-13-2015 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
I just quoted a post that says carbon does not use the merge cashier. Merge's cashflow is good. Carbon/sportsbooks have their own cashier that has nothing to do with the network.
Wrong. Merge used to have its own cashier. They now use the Jazette cashier, as does the other skins. There is no longer a Merge cashier.
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06-13-2015 , 09:11 PM
So why am i withdrawing in 2 days?

100% of the problems come from your skin dealing with US processors. The skin i use deals directly with merge and does not have US players.

Merge pays them instantly and my skin pays me within 3days. Merge is fine. The problem is Carbon and the other skins using their own processors.

Last edited by MX210; 06-13-2015 at 09:16 PM.
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06-13-2015 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
So why am i withdrawing in 2 days?
That has nothing to do with what I just posted. Those little diversions have been pretty standard for your posts.

I just told you that Carbon doesn't use its own processors.
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06-13-2015 , 09:18 PM
So why are we all withdrawing in 2 days if merge is having issues and not paying?

Please explain and provide proof that merge is having issues. I have posted proof that merge pays my skin. You have posted rubbish negations.
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06-13-2015 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
I just quoted a post that says carbon does not use the merge cashier. Merge's cashflow is good. Carbon/sportsbooks have their own cashier that has nothing to do with the network.
wrong, Carbon is on the merge/jazzette cashier
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06-13-2015 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
wrong, Carbon is on the merge cashier
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Up until a few moments ago, most of the Merge Gaming Network was on the Merge Cashier. A large percentage of the network including skins such as Carbon Poker, Aced, Sportsbook and Players Only are now on the same cashier. This cashier is independent of the Merge Cashier, and will have different options for both deposits and withdrawals. The withdrawal times will also be different and independent of the Merge Cashier.
Really?

Of course you edited your post afterwards. Nice try liar.

Please, pretty please. All liars. Explain to me how everyone on the skin im playing is getting paid if Merge is having issues? We're not withdrawing 25$ as some of the people who are vocal in this thread, real money and no problem.

Stop attacking for the sake of it and post information.
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06-13-2015 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
So why are we all withdrawing in 2 days if merge is having issues and not paying?

Please explain and provide proof that merge is having issues. I have posted proof that merge pays my skin. You have posted rubbish negations.
I haven't posted anything about Merge not paying. I'm correcting your dead wrong interpretation of Kahn's post from years ago. The only one posting rubbish is you.
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06-13-2015 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
So why am i withdrawing in 2 days?

100% of the problems come from your skin dealing with US processors. The skin i use deals directly with merge and does not have US players.

Merge pays them instantly and my skin pays me within 3days. Merge is fine. The problem is Carbon and the other skins using their own processors.
Because you are probably not on the main jazzette cashier, a lot of skins used to have their own cashier and most were consolidated to one cashier

so your skin may be able to cash you out faster but if your skin is not on the main cashier and they fold up shop good luck getting paid

What skin are you on?
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06-13-2015 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
Really?

Of course you edited your post afterwards. Nice try liar.
I edited it to be more clear. The Jazzette cashier is often called the merge cashier. it is the central cashier on the network.

So if you are playing any of the major skins that have the most traffic you will be on that cashier.

If your getting paid in 2 days my guess is you are not on that cashier. Does your skin take U.S. players?
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06-13-2015 , 09:31 PM
It's simple, if a skin has its own cashier, they send money to merge. When a withdrawal is asked, merge sends the $ back to the skin and the skin pays. Merge is not having issues paying my skin. It's one of the oldest skins. Merge is doing perfectly fine.

This isn't a skin discussion, this is a discussion about the network's solvency. There's been way too many posts about merge's solvency that were complete lies and speculation.

IDK about the problems of your own skin. Merge and Jazette are 2 separate entities even if they are somewhat related. Just as coca-cola owns half the world and yet every smaller subsidies of them is on their own.
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06-13-2015 , 09:33 PM
I know a bunch of people that were on a small skin (maybe similar to what mx210 is) about 2 years ago. They were getting paid in under a week and some cases same day and one day that skin disappeared and ran off with 100s of thousands of dollars

Not saying this is going to happen to whatever skin he is on but always buyer beware in online poker.
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06-13-2015 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
It's simple, if a skin has its own cashier, they send money to merge. When a withdrawal is asked, merge sends the $ back to the skin and the skin pays. Merge is not having issues paying my skin. It's one of the oldest skins. Merge is doing perfectly fine.

This isn't a skin discussion, this is a discussion about the network's solvency. There's been way too many posts about merge's solvency that were complete lies and speculation.

IDK about the problems of your own skin. Merge and Jazette are 2 separate entities even if they are somewhat related. Just as coca-cola owns half the world and yet every smaller subsidies of them is on their own.
Merge and Jazette use the same cashier. And they are not 2 separate entities. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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06-13-2015 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
Merge and Jazette use the same cashier. And they are not 2 separate entities. You have no idea what you are talking about.
http://www.cardschat.com/f10/carbon-...ashier-264434/

http://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room...cashier-20-11/
Flagship skin Carbon Poker and sister sites PDC Poker and Aced made the transition to Antigua-based Jazette, which also coincided with Merge dropping player-to-player transfer capabilities. This was to remain in compliance with Antigua’s online gaming requirements, according to at least one report, but also to fit into an apparent plan by Merge to rein in some of its more rule-bending skins.

Jazette is the parent company of Sportingbet.ag, Sportsbook.com and several other prominent brand names connected to the international online sportsbetting scene, with some of Jazette’s brands also having experience in online poker.


No where does it say that jazette is merge's processor. It just says that some of the most known skins are using it.
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06-13-2015 , 10:02 PM
Idk who is more annoying, MX or the "merge is a ponzi guy" who's name I have gladly forgotten.
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06-13-2015 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MX210
http://www.cardschat.com/f10/carbon-...ashier-264434/

http://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room...cashier-20-11/
Flagship skin Carbon Poker and sister sites PDC Poker and Aced made the transition to Antigua-based Jazette, which also coincided with Merge dropping player-to-player transfer capabilities. This was to remain in compliance with Antigua’s online gaming requirements, according to at least one report, but also to fit into an apparent plan by Merge to rein in some of its more rule-bending skins.

Jazette is the parent company of Sportingbet.ag, Sportsbook.com and several other prominent brand names connected to the international online sportsbetting scene, with some of Jazette’s brands also having experience in online poker.


No where does it say that jazette is merge's processor. It just says that some of the most known skins are using it.
You're all over the place posting things as you google them. You seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that a lot of us are extremely familiar with what happened, since we thoroughly discussed this topic with the reps when they still existed in this forum.

I'm entirely familiar with the stuff you just googled for the first time.

When Jazette bought into the Merge Network, Carbon moved its money to the Jazette cashier. Any other skins that may have remained on the Merge Cashier closed or moved to other networks. So the original Merge cashier no longer exists. PokerHost had its own cashier and wasn't affected. Any possible small skin that Jazette might have brought with it to Merge with their own cashier wouldn't have been affected either. The independent cashiers tend to be faster but are also more at risk for insolvency. Lock had an independent cashier when it was on Merge.

And just to be clear, Jazette dictates policy on the Merge Network.
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