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09-16-2014 , 07:23 PM

#9226

mcc3504

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,907

its too bad some of the smartest people in the world are working for carbon poker, while they could be off serving a much better purpose

Last edited by mcc3504; 09-16-2014 at 07:23 PM. Reason: they got this poker website business all figured out

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09-16-2014 , 07:24 PM

#9227

lvcjarrett

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,374

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Originally Posted by mcc3504

its too bad some of the smartest people in the world are working for carbon poker, while they could be off serving a much better purpose

lol

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09-16-2014 , 07:40 PM

#9228

ibetappingdatglASS

banned

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 622

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Originally Posted by mcc3504

its too bad some of the smartest people in the world are working for carbon poker, while they could be off serving a much better purpose

Stephen Moore tho

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09-16-2014 , 08:03 PM

#9229

iPlayPLOhigh

banned

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 4,533

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Originally Posted by Micro McD

I'm not sure if the players who play just to gamble and have fun view professionals being restricted as a bad thing. These are the customers Carbon prefers to have and keep happy.

Maybe if enough pro's leave the network completely then Carbon's plan will backfire, only one way to find out.

I've never met someone who plays poker even just to gamble and have fun that doesn't have any intention of ever winning or being a winning player. They may not understand how to get better or want to put in the work to do it, but not many people like doing things they think they will never be good at.

Recs don't seem to think they are that much worse in skill than professionals, just unluckier.......

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09-16-2014 , 08:06 PM

#9230

iPlayPLOhigh

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Originally Posted by mcc3504

its too bad some of the smartest people in the world are working for carbon poker, while they could be off serving a much better purpose

Clearly NASA wasn't challenging enough.

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09-16-2014 , 08:20 PM

#9231

IWishIWas

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 484

Recs don't seem to think they are that much worse in skill than professionals, just unluckier.......[/QUOTE]

Many recs also don't keep track of what they are up or down over a long period of time. If you asked the other 9 people in a live game whether or not they are winning players I bet they all say they are.

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09-16-2014 , 08:24 PM

#9232

iPlayPLOhigh

banned

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Always seem to love playing with the pros live too....

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09-16-2014 , 08:59 PM

#9233

blobbloblob

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,636

Not that it affects me, but the SNGs that are removed are the KOs, 9max turbos and 6max regulars.

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09-16-2014 , 10:05 PM

#9234

Tropics

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 526

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Originally Posted by blobbloblob

Not that it affects me, but the SNGs that are removed are the KOs, 9max turbos and 6max regulars.

I see no regular speed 9-man's either. Does anyone have the definitive list of what SNG's were removed by Carbon?

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09-16-2014 , 10:27 PM

#9235

mcc3504

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Originally Posted by Tropics

I see no regular speed 9-man's either. Does anyone have the definitive list of what SNG's were removed by Carbon?

all $215s, all 9m above $5, DONs above $33, 6m turbo and hypers above $60 (but they still offer $109 6m turbos for whatever reason) i think thats it though lol

for a site that loves to take away mtts with potential overlay you would think they would love the risk free $$$ that sngs offer...

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09-16-2014 , 10:37 PM

#9236

p2 dog, p2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7,536

i dont get it

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09-16-2014 , 11:16 PM

#9237

iPlayPLOhigh

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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2

i dont get it

Everything they do really is baffling.

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09-17-2014 , 01:37 AM

#9238

blobbloblob

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,636

Dumb question. If I use the mobile version do the HHs still save to my desktop the next time I log on. If not is there a way to download HH.

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09-17-2014 , 02:26 AM

#9239

SantaCruz

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Essentially their fullring sitngos are mostly gone. That's the most standard form of sitngo. I've never liked to play the 6 man sitngos on any site because of the high potential for collusion.

I think that they are trying to push players into the supersonics. All those supersonic freerolls that they were giving was a part of that push. Supersonics are very difficult for most players to make any kind of profit on. I'm sure that any players that do happen to make a profit will find themselves severely restricted from playing those games. This is probably just Merge's attempt to move sitngo's in the direction of becoming casino games.

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09-17-2014 , 03:40 AM

#9240

pokerfly187

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 34

Its a pity I was starting to get into the KO sitngos, I really hope they don't eliminate anything else I like to play. I won't touch those supersonics. They are entertaining to watch but it seems like they would be high variance/shove or get blinded out games. Is the traffic down on the sitngos or is it just me? There still seems plenty to play but I just hope there is not a downward trend.

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09-17-2014 , 03:57 AM

#9241

dalaxthedonk

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,974

I'm guessing there were some major fish donating in those high stakes sngs that they would rather have donating to them in the casino and sports betting. Good Lord I hope they're not really trying to push everyone into the super sonics those games are pretty atrocious, and this is coming from a winning hyper player. /tinfoilhat

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09-17-2014 , 04:20 AM

#9242

SantaCruz

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I win at the hypers too but the supersonics are created in a way that is pretty much unbeatable. Not only do the blinds go up quickly but they come around so often that the game becomes a crapshoot. And the reduction in rake isn't anywhere near enough to compensate.

I'd like to note that it isn't just the highstakes sitngos that are gone. It's all the 9 mans over $5.00.

Last edited by SantaCruz; 09-17-2014 at 04:27 AM.

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09-17-2014 , 04:49 AM

#9243

Tropics

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 526

I for one have never, and will never, play a single 'supersonic,' so-called, poker tournament. They are a joke and I hardly consider them to be poker at all. They are to poker tournaments what McDonald's is to 'fine dining.' It's clear that Merge is hostile to winning players. I haven't bothered with Black Chip in a while, can anyone tell me what their SNG traffic is like lately?

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09-17-2014 , 06:52 AM

#9244

dalaxthedonk

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,974

Pretty weak from what I hear but it's about the only place you're going to find proper rakeback these days.

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09-17-2014 , 08:52 AM

#9245

jackaaron

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,560

Question on Hand Histories:

If I want to view just text versions of a hand history (not in the Carbon player) later while not on the client, is there a best way for this?

When I go to the folder to look at the files, they're not .txt. If I open then in .txt, they are effed up. I'm probably doing something stupid technically?

I just want to review some hand histories, so just looking for tips...thanks :-)

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09-17-2014 , 09:08 AM

#9246

dalaxthedonk

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,974

pokertracker has an option to convert the HHs into a text format (im sure HEM probably has something similar but I Cant confirm personally)

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09-17-2014 , 10:42 AM

#9247

Max Cut

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SuperSonics are also winner-take-all which further reduces attainable edge since there are no ICM/bubble mistakes to be made.

lol @ removing $11 9-max NLHE SNGs. Merge still keeps you guessing!

Spoiler:

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09-17-2014 , 11:04 AM

#9248

mcc3504

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I would assume they are moving in the direction of taking all sit and goes away and this is just a slow process. Since a week or 2 ago they took away all the KO's and regular speed 9man sngs. Pretty interesting strat by their experts in charge.

and ya wtf lol were the "fish" losing too much at $11 9mans that merge just couldn't handle it anymore?

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09-17-2014 , 11:17 AM

#9249

MorningAfterPill

banned

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 30

I'm so glad I read this thread before making a deposit for the Carbon Ops. Thank you for sharing all the BS and leaving my blood pressure at non-cardiac levels.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 09-18-2014 at 04:53 PM.

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09-17-2014 , 11:45 AM

#9250

Synergistic Explosions

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Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,170

Any affiliate who promotes Merge is a shyster IMO. They are screwing you guys who still play there, and they will continue to screw you in the future if you continue to play there. Take the $$$ and run while you can.

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