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02-25-2013 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Halstad
does intertops accept new US customers? I thought there was a time where they didn't.
There was such a time, and that time is now.

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Originally Posted by Vaedur
how does one get on intertops?
As an American, unfortunately, you probably don't.
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02-25-2013 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sirmixalot
... What I mean about bigger PLO8 tourneys is the max guarantee is $1500. There is a $3500 guarantee PLO but plo8 max guarantee is $1500. That's way to low and the guarantee goes over every time. In fact it often goes over $2000. In general the mix tourneys are crazy small compared to NLH and the mix tourneys are the ones going over there guarantee nad not causing overlays like nlh are.

Thank you.
I checked that and you are absolutely right. I asked the network for daily $2,000 GTDs and $3,000 GTD weekend ones as trial. Waiting for reply.

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Originally Posted by EvKiller
itops rep.... talk to them about adding $8 10 mans!! theres like 10/15 of us that reg the $4s... guaranteed we will fill them if u make $8s
$8 ones have been added. (Thanks to the network tournament department, very fast setup)
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Originally Posted by waq
The Sat & Sun Tournies are promoted everywhere as 4:59 PM EST but in the Lobby they are listed as 5:59 PM EST
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Intertops PLO Weekend!

From Friday to Sunday we will host Pot-Limit Omaha tourneys with a guaranteed prize-pool of $1,000 and extra cheap buy-ins, exclusively for Intertops customers!

Friday, February 22nd 5:59pm EST:
Intertops $200 GTD PLO / $1.80 + $0.20 buy-in

Saturday, February 23rd 4:59pm EST:
Intertops $300 GTD PLO / $2.70 + $0.30 buy-in

Sunday, February 24th 4:59pm EST:
Intertops $500 GTD PLO / $4.50 + $0.50 buy-in
Thanks for promoting! I don't have a report for the Sunday one yet, but the $200 and $300 have pleasantly surprised me! Looks like we will keep them up and maybe add some more of those in the near future.
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Originally Posted by jmurjeff
Can someone explain what the value is like for a non rakeback player? I am trying to see what the value is in Intertops. I know super fast cashouts may end up being the best thing but I am not sure how a non rakeback player would rank.
Without rb you could clear a full $1,000 First Deposit Bonus with $794 tournament fees / month.
This is equivalent to 42%. At this rate you might rank around ~50 in the FPP race with another $120/month equivalent to another 15%.
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Originally Posted by The Ocean
The rep said they would look into sending out emails alerting new customers of there daily limits so that should be sometime but its also written on there site to avoid confusion, just politely ask them to increase it and they will has they see fit, there some posts like a page or two away about it.

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I already changed the Welcome Email and added information and a link to the Poker Limits section of our website. They should be sent from tomorrow on.
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02-25-2013 , 09:54 AM
was a little frustrated with Intertops live support today. Now I love intertops and have done a ton of business with them over the past year, but this guy was pretty inept. I'm trying out the reloadable debit card and when you click the link in the client it says "proper mail client is not installed". Here is the convo

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Robbie'

Robbie: Welcome to our live chat service. How may I help you today?

you: hi - i received my reloadable debit card in the mail and wish to try a withdraw through it - how do i do that?

Robbie: please go to the icon in the payout section

Robbie: and click on it and an email page will pop up

you: it wont pop up

Robbie: you write a brief statement with your request, and the amount

you: says default mail client isnt installed

you: ??

Robbie: did you activate your card

Robbie: you need to read the letter and follow the steps

you: yes i did

you: the problem is the payout button on your cashier links to an email system i dont have

Robbie: you already have a payout recently sent to you

you: not through that option

Robbie: there for you will not able to request another, 7 days has passed since your last request was processed

you: regardless how do I use this option in the future?

Robbie: the same way, by using the email link in payouts, or you can send a regular mail to payments@intertops.eu with your request

you: ok so I have to email them

you: like I said before the link is broken.

you: might want to fix that

Robbie: thank you for notifying us


He clearly didn't know how to respond to my inquiry and went to the basics to hopefully take care of the issue - "you have to activate the card" "you know you have to wait 7 days to make another withdraw right?" Now don't get me wrong this guy isn't the worst customer service rep in the world, but it would help if the employees were better trained. This also took place on Monday morning where I would think they have their better trained staff in place to answer online inquiries.
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02-25-2013 , 09:59 AM
^

you can withdraw from the reloadable card and use it stores, atms etc ?

anyone have a link or info about it ?
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02-25-2013 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SNGplayer24
was a little frustrated with Intertops live support today. Now I love intertops and have done a ton of business with them over the past year, but this guy was pretty inept. I'm trying out the reloadable debit card and when you click the link in the client it says "proper mail client is not installed". Here is the convo

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He clearly didn't know how to respond to my inquiry and went to the basics to hopefully take care of the issue - "you have to activate the card" "you know you have to wait 7 days to make another withdraw right?" Now don't get me wrong this guy isn't the worst customer service rep in the world, but it would help if the employees were better trained. This also took place on Monday morning where I would think they have their better trained staff in place to answer online inquiries.
There are 2 DCC types. The DCC and the DCC+. For me the DCC payout button works perfectly, there seems to be an issue with the plus one that already has been forwarded to corresponding department. Maybe the support staff gave you some information that you did not ask for, but he gave you the correct email address and advice how to request a withdrawal, plus he forwarded the dead link issue to the tech. So calling this colleague inept is a bit unfair imo.
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Originally Posted by The Ocean
^

you can withdraw from the reloadable card and use it stores, atms etc ?

anyone have a link or info about it ?
Please see our >> Payout options <<.
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02-25-2013 , 02:38 PM
just made my first withdraw from intertops using WU took two days to process and two days to recieve. very fast and easy plus their customer support is top notch
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02-25-2013 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cabel
Now I remember why I rarely post here. I truthfully stated what has happened. I attacked nobody, yet I was attacked and insulted by people I have done nothing to. Not a big deal as I know there are many who lurk and hope that I have helped them, I'm sure most here are not Jerks, but there are enough that are to make it not worth posting here.
actually, if it were rigged it wouldn’t be intertops, it'd be the revolution poker network, which is operated by lock who already has a shady reputation from everything I can gather in the forums. Intertops is great and probably the most reliable option for usa players who were fortunate enough to sign up for the site before they stopped accepting usa players.

i'm not saying revolution is rigged, but imo it's a bit naive to assume and never question the integrity of locks network, who as I already mentioned has a shady reputation. Worst case scenario, it would seem lock would actually would have a motive to rig the rng since intertops and other skins on the network have their own cashier. If lock was to pull something shady, like stealing players funds when things go bad for them, wouldn’t they want as much money on the network as possible in the lock cashier? Wouldn’t the way to do this, be to favor the lock skin?

Anyway, just something to think about, and again I’m not saying it’s rigged, but does seem like a plausible scenario. It’s not like the sites we have to play on, other than intertops, are class act by any means.

I’m sure they will move this to the rigtard thread, but it would be nice for someone to explain to me why I should have confidence in the integrity of revolution when lock has such a shady reputation in the forums…
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02-25-2013 , 03:16 PM
They just segregated their games from other skins because sites like Intertops were apparantly grinding their players too much (it makes sense to me that most winning players would move to Intertops given if you want to cash out regularly you wouldn't need to go through the horror of cashing out on Lock).

Then also saying they'd be rigging the games (i know, you didn't say they are, but hypothetically) would be blaming them for a bit too much at that point imo Also, the segregation simply makes it impossible for this to happen: the "moving money from other skins to Lock's cashier"

Besides.. it takes them months to change a font in their client, or process a payout. How long do you think it'd take them to succesfully alter the software to rig it for them? That'd be an undertaking of several years i'd say..
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02-25-2013 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mccormick

Besides.. it takes them months to change a font in their client, or process a payout. How long do you think it'd take them to succesfully alter the software to rig it for them? That'd be an undertaking of several years i'd say..
This was the response that was given last time when questioning why we should trust the integrity of an already known shady lock, which I get ha ha, and probably a valid statement, but it is worth mentioning that it’s amazing what can get done when one is financially motivated. Changing the font size, has no real financial motivation.
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02-25-2013 , 04:39 PM
Going to make a deposit soon. Any US players getting a withdraw by bank wire transfer?
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02-25-2013 , 05:29 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread or not, while although its cool you guys added the $8.20 + .80 tournaments 10 mans, why did you lessen the starting chip stack in the $4.60 + .40 tourmanets from 1,500 to 1,000? It's incredibly frustrating. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the old tournaments, they were standard. Every time I get used to something or comfortable and happy in online poker, it changes. We already have super turbos, we don't need these to have less than 100 big blinds to start.

Changes like this really make no sense. Seriously, why?

Although the $8.20 + .80 should really be $9.20 + .80 if it were double the $4's. The rake actually went UP going from 4's to 8's instead of down. Sigh.
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02-25-2013 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rocketragz
This was the response that was given last time when questioning why we should trust the integrity of an already known shady lock, which I get ha ha, and probably a valid statement, but it is worth mentioning that it’s amazing what can get done when one is financially motivated. Changing the font size, has no real financial motivation.
Most of the rigs that people dream up in the tard thread are so complex, it would take decades to program, if it's even possible.

To rig every hand on hundreds, maybe thousands of tables, trying to achieve some sort of deal that somehow rewards certain people only, or that increases rake a few percentage points even though you can't predict how someone's going to play their hand, etc. is just not feasible.

If Lock steals your money, it's going to be like a crackhead in the middle of the night, not some super complex James Bond style RNG rig. They'll just take your bankroll and you'll never hear from them again.
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02-25-2013 , 07:02 PM
And if the RNG was rigged then it would be possible to figure out how it works and alter your play to consistently win. Which would defeat the entire purpose lol.
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02-26-2013 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
Most of the rigs that people dream up in the tard thread are so complex, it would take decades to program, if it's even possible.

To rig every hand on hundreds, maybe thousands of tables, trying to achieve some sort of deal that somehow rewards certain people only, or that increases rake a few percentage points even though you can't predict how someone's going to play their hand, etc. is just not feasible.

If Lock steals your money, it's going to be like a crackhead in the middle of the night, not some super complex James Bond style RNG rig. They'll just take your bankroll and you'll never hear from them again.
this so much
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02-26-2013 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Intertops Poker
I checked that and you are absolutely right. I asked the network for daily $2,000 GTDs and $3,000 GTD weekend ones as trial. Waiting for reply.
Thank you. I actually have been asking for this for months now. I think it's important they know they always go over Guarantee. I would suggest the weekend 3k be $55 +5 not 109 like the PLO.
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02-26-2013 , 05:10 PM
wtf, did they change some SNG structures/blind levels or am I seeing things? Specifically in ref to the 10 man turbos

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02-26-2013 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by IamPro
wtf, did they change some SNG structures/blind levels or am I seeing things? Specifically in ref to the 10 man turbos
weird, they added $8.20+.80 10 mans and your starting chips are now 1000 not 1500.

I don't prefer the chip change, or the fact that the rake gets worse as you go from the $5 10man to the $9 10 man
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02-26-2013 , 07:53 PM
We asked for the $8.... awesome! ! But y the chip change?
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02-26-2013 , 09:29 PM
Yeah, I already mentioned this on the last page and I agree with everyone above. Please reset it back to 1,500 chips. Making it 1,000 chips makes it much closer to a super turbo, and those already exist; we play turbos for a reason, to have more chips and time. We need 100bb's to be able to iso-raise, etc without committing a huge portion of our stacks and being committed so early.

Also, please change the 8's to the proper tournament buyin, which should be $9.20 + $0.80 if you were to have the same rake as the $4's. Or, make them something like $9.30 + $0.70 since we're moving UP in stakes and the rake should in fact go down, not up.
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02-27-2013 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EvKiller
We asked for the $8.... awesome! ! But y the chip change?
Yeah, but the fee to the house doubles but the amount going to the field does not!
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02-27-2013 , 03:27 AM
I'm actually borderline retracting my statement lol... the games have been twice as fishy as before, if thats even possible since the switch. No idea why, but people are just going bananas and busting super early even more so than in the past. But i'd still be cool with the old structure too =) Seems like they're way over-adjusting
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02-27-2013 , 04:32 AM
Hi

I only requested the $8 ones as demanded here.
Of course I did not request the starting chip change, why would I.
I will ask the network tourney guys why this has been changed.

Best regards,
The Intertops Poker Team
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02-27-2013 , 06:40 AM
I would highly advise all to stay away from Intertops. They are completely and totally rigged. Lost in the most ridiculous ways possible following my run in with Customer Service. Even many other players in games I'm in making comments how badly I'm getting donked. Just the one deposit, I'll never play on this site again. Routinely take 100 dollar deposits and turn into thousands elsewhere. Not the best player here by any means, but I know when the math is wrong, I know when the fix is in.
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02-27-2013 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Cabel
I would highly advise all to stay away from Intertops. They are completely and totally rigged. Lost in the most ridiculous ways possible following my run in with Customer Service. Even many other players in games I'm in making comments how badly I'm getting donked. Just the one deposit, I'll never play on this site again. Routinely take 100 dollar deposits and turn into thousands elsewhere. Not the best player here by any means, but I know when the math is wrong, I know when the fix is in.
PokerStars must be rigged aswell, i constantly run bad there as opposed to this network. It's just variance, and variance does not at all restrict itself to a given network, variance is just out there, even in pretty much anything you do in life besides poker, it doesn't at all mean you can predict it or assume it's going to stay similar in the future though, for all i know i may start running bad here any given moment.

Seriously: think it through: the poker site itself doesn't benefit from it being rigged, then why would they?
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02-27-2013 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Cabel
I would highly advise all to stay away from Intertops. They are completely and totally rigged. Lost in the most ridiculous ways possible following my run in with Customer Service. Even many other players in games I'm in making comments how badly I'm getting donked. Just the one deposit, I'll never play on this site again. Routinely take 100 dollar deposits and turn into thousands elsewhere. Not the best player here by any means, but I know when the math is wrong, I know when the fix is in.
There is a thread for rigged posts. I bet you also lose elsewhere as well. Your $100 to thousands is probably bad bankroll management. I've played on so many sites and can say they are all about the same. I've also played a lot of live poker. I have had beats that make me think someone hates me. I think you are seeing what you want to see. You probably don't remember the bad beats you have inflicted. It is easy to think someone just rigged your account. If they really wanted to rig accounts, they wouldn't have a winner on all ins. There would be a ridiculous amount of chops. It would be the best thing for a site for people to keep their money longer. They have no incentive for someone to lose all their chips on one hand.
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