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these GG LBs are fun but the way they made points count really is just bad, even for them.
1 point for call 2 points for raising 3 for insurance. If it was based on how much rake each player generates it wouldnt serve the purpose of mini stacking. Now at least at the low stakes all pleople do is mini stacking and mini raising. And the minimum buy in is 20bbs so it really sucks. then they just join a new table everytime after winning a few bbs. As greedy as GG seems to be this is just stupid for them. They would get much more rake in if they switched a few very simple things

maybe it's better at holdem and higher stakes but the micro plo rush is a complete joke. a bunch of "regs" playing 24/7 with over 70 vpip on 4 tables, shortstacking, min opening, min barreling (even with the nuts).

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Originally Posted by DingusEgg

The leaderboards are odd because they seem to go against everything that GGpoker wants to stand for.

They say they don't want grinders or players that ruin the ecosystem, yet they continue to pump out leaderboard challenges that make players want to grind as many tables as they can or adjust their buyin and playing habits just to make a leaderboard or get some points.

exactly. same goes for the soviets grinding 18 regular tables.

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10-07-2020 , 10:28 AM

#2977

problemeliminator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,467

I take every opportunity to abuse the Russian nits I can.

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10-07-2020 , 11:43 AM

#2978

Implicity

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 79

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Originally Posted by problemeliminator

I take every opportunity to abuse the Russian nits I can.

Shame 3bet pots are raked preflop, 3betting these guys literally prints $$$

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10-07-2020 , 12:53 PM

#2979

Vinevelus

stranger

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 4

Anyone here beat 25-50nl "rush and cash" for a large volume? I've been playing for a while, losing plenty of buyin. Player pool seem tougher than pokerstar zoom. A lot of regular and nit and not enough fun player. Rarely see them bluff in big pot. Dont know why I keep paying them off lol.

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10-07-2020 , 04:18 PM

#2980

welsh-witch1

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,968

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Originally Posted by Implicity

You can view hand histories and make notes on players through PokerCraft. You can see basic things like profit/loss for specific holdings and by position. All of these figures are calculated before rake though. The profit/ev graph does not calculate with rake.

Import into PT4 and you can adjust for rake and then filter for anything else you need.

how do you import the hands into pt4?

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10-07-2020 , 05:08 PM

#2981

Implicity

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 79

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Originally Posted by welsh-witch1

how do you import the hands into pt4?

1. PokerCraft -> Left menu -> Hold'Em (or Rush etc).
2. Select the sessions you want in the check box (top box will select all for the date filtered)
3. Right hand side, download (make a new folder somewhere for these)
4. Extract from zip file
5. PT4 -> 'Play Poker' -> Get hands from disk

I think you can download a maximum of around 6k hands at a time, I used to play a lot of rush and encountered this but now I don't reach that sort of volume daily I just import every couple of days

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10-07-2020 , 07:35 PM

#2982

problemeliminator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,467

One last question, is it true that GG scrambles all your opponent names when you download the HH? I have PT4 trial version, but in all the HH only my name is the same, all the other names are a bunch of random numbers.
I understand why-GG doesn't want you using these stats to make a bunch of notes on your opponents.

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10-07-2020 , 08:55 PM

#2983

Implicity

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 79

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Originally Posted by problemeliminator

Yeah it does scramble the names when importing hands to PT4/HEM

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10-08-2020 , 03:08 AM

#2984

Baraky

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 66

so, how is the rake for cash games nowadays? as far as I can remember it was abusive few months ago...has it changed any?

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10-08-2020 , 07:18 AM

#2985

Implicity

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 79

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Originally Posted by Baraky

so, how is the rake for cash games nowadays? as far as I can remember it was abusive few months ago...has it changed any?

12.5bb/100 at both 25nl and 50nl according to my PT4 (40k+ hands at regular speed tables)

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10-08-2020 , 08:31 AM

#2986

Moneyfold13

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 34

Hey,
as I don't wanna read the whole thread, can anyone tell me which GG client offers the best rakeback? I'm considering playing "Zoom" there. Anything I should know? No HUD allowed?

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10-08-2020 , 08:38 AM

#2987

DingusEgg

adept

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,072

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Originally Posted by Moneyfold13

Hey,
as I don't wanna read the whole thread, can anyone tell me which GG client offers the best rakeback? I'm considering playing "Zoom" there. Anything I should know? No HUD allowed?

The clients don't offer different rakeback. You need to search out an affiliate site that will provide you with additional rakeback on top of the modified rakeback that all GG skins offer based on your winrate. Search google for GGpoker rakeback deals and I'm sure you'll find one.

GG offers a built in HUD with minimal info.

You can now export HHs to import in HM or PT4.

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10-08-2020 , 01:03 PM

#2988

crowned

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 238

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Originally Posted by Implicity

Shame 3bet pots are raked preflop, 3betting these guys literally prints $$$

Were they always raked preflop? I thought the whole point of 3betting more marginal hands rather than flatting is to not pay as much rake. I'm confused.

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10-08-2020 , 02:23 PM

#2989

Tim4TiGO

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 25

Anyone noticed that when playing Spin and Gold with free bonus tickets sometimes you play with money and the ticket is used as well? Happened to me twice now.

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10-08-2020 , 02:25 PM

#2990

Baraky

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 66

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Originally Posted by Implicity

12.5bb/100 at both 25nl and 50nl according to my PT4 (40k+ hands at regular speed tables)

is that outrageous or what? will the rakeback make up for it?

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10-08-2020 , 03:53 PM

#2991

livegamelive1

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 656

I just tried All In Or Fold for kicks and ran like god. May have ruined normal poker forever.

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10-08-2020 , 07:35 PM

#2992

ciscociskers

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 460

Just did an update and can't launch the GGskin program on my laptop. Win7 OS, anyone else having issues?

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10-09-2020 , 10:16 AM

#2993

DingusEgg

adept

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,072

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Originally Posted by Baraky

is that outrageous or what? will the rakeback make up for it?

Rakeback doesn't make up for it because they reduce your rakeback based on how well you're doing on the site.

Leaderboards, cash drop tables, ring game hand bonuses and other promos help to offset the rake. For instance since September I have around $90 in rakeback coming. I believe based on my results my rakeback should be 4 times higher if it were based on total rake paid. Last night I hit a ring game hand bonus for $90 bucks. So I basically doubled my rakeback with that promo.

Not ideal but some of their promos will help out.

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10-09-2020 , 02:55 PM

#2994

cottlad

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 39

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Originally Posted by ciscociskers

Just did an update and can't launch the GGskin program on my laptop. Win7 OS, anyone else having issues?

Yes. Click login and nothing :/

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10-10-2020 , 03:41 AM

#2995

welsh-witch1

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,968

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Originally Posted by DingusEgg

Built in hud? like vpip pfr 3bet?

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10-10-2020 , 04:27 AM

#2996

belthazorrrrr

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,239

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Originally Posted by DingusEgg

Rakeback doesn't make up for it because they reduce your rakeback based on how well you're doing on the site.

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Same applies for mtts?

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10-10-2020 , 04:50 AM

#2997

YCBS

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 81

Does anyone know. If I have a gg account. Can I still make an natural8 account ?

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10-10-2020 , 07:21 AM

#2998

problemeliminator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,467

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Originally Posted by welsh-witch1

Built in hud? like vpip pfr 3bet?

Just Vpip

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10-10-2020 , 11:14 AM

#2999

cottlad

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 39

I can't login to GG :/
Windows 8.1
Press 'Login' button and my User/PW pops up (remembered) but nothing happens when I press login.
Have tried uninstalling, including deleting the GG Poker folder in C/Prog Files (x86)
When I re-install and try to log in, my details are still saved :?

Any ideas how I can fix please?