The default is the integrated one. The default one might be like 20 years old. Right-click GG and pick a better one if so for specific softwares. RAM is also important.

For anyone who might wanna know it: Software 'Jurojin'

Seems it's only for Windows.

hi, guys here is response from gg poker, about romoving leter "N" for player notes.



So if someone want, and have time can also sent short remark , they said more complaints more chance that will fix it.

I can live without it but if they can fix it why not right?

So with the high hand jackpot

it states 15bb you must put in the pot before your hand is made.... sometimes I have flopped quads in a single raised pot... but then 15bb have been put in by the river and the
jackpot hand appears on the river....
and sometimes this has happend at it does not appear...

is the first one simply a glitch?

What's up with the rush cash leaderboards ? This dude hasn't played for **** and suddenly he's sitting in top 3 and is playing like a donkey min betting every street lmao

lmao^^ haha. must be double points i guess at 10pm - 12pm PST.

Also take it back. it seems like PVI for cash games is fine. At least for all in or fold that is.

Quads can improve.

Pvi for aof is usually good bc those players rake a ton w very low wr, some probably even -EV so from wat i have seen aof pvis seem to be alot better than anywhere else

I don't believe AoF is subject to PVI

Its a current promotion:
He's sitting for min and min betting to get the points. Minimal risk and when he hits a hand he gets paid off. I know this, because I bet him off a few min raises a few days ago then he showed up with AAxx and crushed me

Are there GG reps in this thread?

Suggestion: Can you get rid of the purple highlighted mtts? I know the $400 forty stack and $800 marathon changed to the new purpled coated highroller colour - but I strongly believe the purple highlight deters recs, even some regs from joining. I think the numbers for these mtts would be higher if you ditched the purple highlight. It pretty much just means a tourney in that colour is full of sharks..

So it seems GG is trying to really incentivize Rush and Cash. I'd be playing regular games because they're softer, but the points race is sooo much more lucrative in zoom games. I guess since they generate more rake +no bumhunting they encourage it.

If anyone finding out what’s drugs this Stuart Rutter account takes everyday day I would like to purchase some.
What a grinder !

Still same question as before: given that gg bans HUDs is it worth paying for PT4, HEM3, etc just to analyze your own stats? Or is there is cheaper HUD-less option for tracking your stats in more detail than poker craft does?

these GG LBs are fun but the way they made points count really is just bad, even for them.
1 point for call 2 points for raising 3 for insurance. If it was based on how much rake each player generates it wouldnt serve the purpose of mini stacking. Now at least at the low stakes all pleople do is mini stacking and mini raising. And the minimum buy in is 20bbs so it really sucks. then they just join a new table everytime after winning a few bbs. As greedy as GG seems to be this is just stupid for them. They would get much more rake in if they switched a few very simple things

I also have a question! Im about to grind the bronze octopus. After I get the points needed, do I have the option to switch to a flat rakeback and will it then be more than the 20% im offered now? If not whats the ''next level'' I have to achieve before i can get more flat rakeback than the 20%?

e: oh i have to grind bronze, silver, and gold octopus and then i can have the black octopus 35% flat cashback, right?
Lets say I do this, do I actually get 35% flat cashback as promised or is it BS like their PVI system for those wheels is?

Both PT4/HEM is worth it for other reasons than just the HUD. Poker Craft is ok but I'm not sure if HH expires after a certain amount of time.


PT4 now adjusts for rake when importing HH (but still has issues when the board is ran three times).

AFAIK fish points [FP] are earned based on PVI, so you could be paying more than 1$ in rake per 100 FP gained. The numbers shown by GGPoker are only accurate if you have a PVI of 1. Earlier posts have shown that all winning players have PVI less than 1.

For example if you are on the Fish Buffet system (crab level), if your PVI is 0.5, you'd need to rake 240$ to gain 12k FP to spin for a maximum of 60$. This means the maximum rakeback you can get is 25% if you land 60$ on the 'random' spin and the minimum would be 5% if you rolled 12$.

If you are Black Octopus for 35% direct RB, again if you have 0.5 PVI, you are raking 2$ per 100 FP, so your effective RB is actually 17.5%

How does this work? and how do you even review hands accurately from GG in poker craft?
Also is the poker craft ev graph before rake it doesn't make sense to me?

You can view hand histories and make notes on players through PokerCraft. You can see basic things like profit/loss for specific holdings and by position. All of these figures are calculated before rake though. The profit/ev graph does not calculate with rake.

Import into PT4 and you can adjust for rake and then filter for anything else you need.

Thanks for the feedback! I was hoping that there existed some (cheaper) software with some of the tracking and analysis features of PT4 but without the HUD. I guess there isn't anything that can replace it.

Once you get to the 35% flat rakeback it will be more than what you have but as always it is a factor of PVI. As someone else pointed out you basically will get 35 x your PVI which basically is not a true 35%.

If you are a winning player it is probably safe to assume that you will get 25% or 50% of whatever rakeback amount they promise you.

The leaderboards are odd because they seem to go against everything that GGpoker wants to stand for.

They say they don't want grinders or players that ruin the ecosystem, yet they continue to pump out leaderboard challenges that make players want to grind as many tables as they can or adjust their buyin and playing habits just to make a leaderboard or get some points.