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09-14-2020 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pokzen
Definitely. I'm a black whale too and I figure my actual rakeback is about 10-15%.

Interestingly, when I drop a stake I consistently get double the fish points per hand.
They had me at the bronze Octopus and all I had to do is make 60K points to achieve the month. I play for max 2 hours a day and more like 1 hour across 3 tables so no way I was going to make that. Settled on the black fish rakeback for "20%" which from what I can see is likely more like 4-6% rakeback.

Currently have $1.66 available to claim after 4 or 5 hours of 3 tabling at the 50s. Definitely maxed out my rake contribution on more than a few hands which is why I figure I"m around 4%. Guess I'll just have to hope I hit a few jackpot hands to bump up my "rakeback" as my PVI is not helping me at all lol.
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09-14-2020 , 01:30 PM
Anyone else having problems?

I got "InsufficientBalance" messages when trying to reload. Logged out and now can't log back in ("ErrorBrandTimeout").
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09-14-2020 , 01:40 PM
Same here. I was able to log back in, but cashier is down by the looks of it.
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09-14-2020 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DingusEgg
They had me at the bronze Octopus and all I had to do is make 60K points to achieve the month. I play for max 2 hours a day and more like 1 hour across 3 tables so no way I was going to make that. Settled on the black fish rakeback for "20%" which from what I can see is likely more like 4-6% rakeback.

Currently have $1.66 available to claim after 4 or 5 hours of 3 tabling at the 50s. Definitely maxed out my rake contribution on more than a few hands which is why I figure I"m around 4%. Guess I'll just have to hope I hit a few jackpot hands to bump up my "rakeback" as my PVI is not helping me at all lol.
where can we see our pvi also they take rake preflop and not give rakeback porperly
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09-14-2020 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by winnerloser888
where can we see our pvi also they take rake preflop and not give rakeback porperly
You can't see it.

The best you can do is look at results in pokercraft for a set period of time (say a week). Figure out the difference between your account balance change during that same period to determine total rake taken (making sure to exclude jackpot winnings) then look at how much rakeback you earned over that same period and do some math to figure out your PVI based on the average rakeback for your fish buffet level.

Example - pretty sure this works, but correct me if I'm wrong on anything.

Pokercraft says you won $1000 over 7 days
Account balance went from $5000 to $5600 over that same period for a +$600 gain
Rake appears to be $400 (1000 pokercraft gain - actual account gain)
- this is X

Rakeback gained during same period = $60 (fish buffet rewards)
- this is Y

Fish Buffet level says I should have 40% rakeback on average
- this is Z

PVI = Y / (X * Z)

PVI = 60 / (400 * 40%)

PVI = 60 / 160

PVI = 0.375


So basically you multiple your actual rake by .375 and then get 40% rakeback from that adjusted number.

If you are a winner your PVI is less than 1
If you are a loser your PVI is greater than 1

They give less to the winners and more to the losers to entice the losers to keep circulating money through the system.
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09-14-2020 , 08:55 PM
lol no idea.
but i did know when i first started play AoF. I went on a sick heater . like i won 30 BI's at 2/4 NL Holdem haha. That included couple of the bingo spins. I thought I found the holy grail of poker.

ever since than just beeen slowly bleeding. I do try to play best I can, which I have no idea whats the right stratedgy. I just use like 8bb shoving ranges for MTT's.

I now play just for fun ( its kinda like Blackjack to me) , to generate rake, the thrill and the free BI for the 100 hands. I still think I have an edge, but I doubt it after the rake lol.

anyone know strat to share?

I know I restart my board at 40 hands if I dont get any of the center pieces. also I noticed u should call your suited connectors for Jackpot chances.

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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Is anyone beating the AoF games or running close to EV pre-drop? I put in some sick volume, had 1 rf (on 4/8 omaha) but other than that, basically down the rake+ on these games, which is about 15k. More fool me for playing them, I know.

Btw, I think in Omaha you're supposed to hit an rf once every 10k hands, I had one, but seen quite a few at my tables, so that's obv pretty below EV right there. Chart is since early July (a couple of months ago), when I joined.



Ignore the end, I played some 1k AoF for sh/ts & giggles.
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09-14-2020 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
In my experience they usually take about ~24 hrs to approve and then usually another 12 hours or so after that it lands.
Thank you i got approved around Friday and funds hit around Tuesday.
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09-15-2020 , 02:50 PM
guys what software do you use to track your games?

i uploaded some hands to hm3 but it does not look good, some data is missing
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09-15-2020 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by luckyboypl
guys what software do you use to track your games?

i uploaded some hands to hm3 but it does not look good, some data is missing
PT4

Seems ok, haven't gone to deep on review yet. Just started doing it a week or so ago.
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09-15-2020 , 05:37 PM
Just got my first new spin, Bronze Shark, and there were no $ amounts on the spinner. Weird
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09-15-2020 , 06:08 PM
Does the HH now include rake? Seems like they does...
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09-15-2020 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DingusEgg
Thats kind of what I figured. I assume Etransfer would be the easiest method. I think the min is 20 or 25. I'm good with this anyway would rather have it go right to my bank account instead of on my card.

Let me know if this is the route you take and if its successful.
Looks good - I did a $25 E-transfer in this morning and then withdrew it about an hour later. I just received a text confirming the withdrawal processing and a password.
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09-15-2020 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mickyb
Just got my first new spin, Bronze Shark, and there were no $ amounts on the spinner. Weird
Just making it even more random by assigning no values at all until the spinner stops. It literally could be any alphanumeric value.

Congratulations on this weeks rakeback, you've won the letter J. Keep spinning to collect the entire alphabet and the grand prize......a worse PVI!!
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09-15-2020 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pokzen
Looks good - I did a $25 E-transfer in this morning and then withdrew it about an hour later. I just received a text confirming the withdrawal processing and a password.
Awesome!

Now I just have to get to the point where I'm not longer BR building and ready to cash out. I still did it but was hesitant to email support to ask about options, as I assumed they would throw the doom switch on me just for the sheer thought of processing a withdrawal.
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09-15-2020 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by xxyungeloest
Does the HH now include rake? Seems like they does...
That would be a nice development. Could at least get accurate figures on how badly we get crushed.
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09-15-2020 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by xxyungeloest
Does the HH now include rake? Seems like they does...
Confirmed??
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09-16-2020 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by xxyungeloest
Does the HH now include rake? Seems like they does...
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Originally Posted by marianoboni
Confirmed??
Played only a few hands yesterday, but HM showed the "real" winnings for first time and also the rake and Rake bb/100.

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09-16-2020 , 12:29 PM
Ty!
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09-16-2020 , 01:47 PM
My hm3 still showing no rake
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09-16-2020 , 03:07 PM
when i look at my today's results from PokerCraft it seems like rake is calculated? is this correct? did they really update it
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09-16-2020 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SutOmaksettu
when i look at my today's results from PokerCraft it seems like rake is calculated? is this correct? did they really update it
I just tried and my pokercraft didn't include the rake, don't think it's updated. It says I'm up more than my balance shows.
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09-16-2020 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IFORGET
I just tried and my pokercraft didn't include the rake, don't think it's updated. It says I'm up more than my balance shows.
Mine too, same crap.
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09-16-2020 , 07:36 PM
Anyone knows, how much rake we paid on NL100 reg / Rush tables?
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09-17-2020 , 03:17 AM
I am quite sure some nl500 Russian regs are part of some bot ring. They play completely unorthodox with super small sizings 3b pf, big sizings on flop in 3b pots which no one uses, they are super aggresive, they use donks in their lines, but who cares as long as they rake!
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09-17-2020 , 08:42 PM
I've tried all the fixes mentioned in this thread to help prevent the client from crashing on windows 10 and none of them has had any help. The only way I seem to be able to run the client without crashing is just completely disabling my 2nd monitor that is 4k res and only have laptop display enabled.

Obviously its impossible to grind poker on only one monitor so would appreciate if someone has a solution how to enable the 2nd monitor without it causing client to crash 5 times a day.
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