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04-12-2014 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Yes. But most people are not trying to commit tax evasion.
Regardless of the effect it might have on player interest, I disagree with this statement. Just like 99% of the people that buy stuff online (eg. from Amazon) don't report those purchases like they're required to do, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people in the U.S. that win money from non-U.S. sites don't report their winnings to the IRS.
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04-12-2014 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by justblaze47
I've kind of been putting in a lot of volume on bovada.lv all the sudden.

Wondering if there is any rakeback options on this site.

Thanks for the help in advance.
nope
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04-12-2014 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by madcatz1999
Regardless of the effect it might have on player interest, I disagree with this statement. Just like 99% of the people that buy stuff online (eg. from Amazon) don't report those purchases like they're required to do, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people in the U.S. that win money from non-U.S. sites don't report their winnings to the IRS.
You make some very good points. But not being aware that you might owe some state sales tax from an Amazon purchase is a far cry from purposely and thoughtfully committing federal income tax evasion imo.

Likewise, although stating that the vast majority of players dont pay taxes might not be a totally unreasonable assumption, there is a distinction to be made between players that won taxable amounts and are not paying them out of ignorance, and players that are knowingly going out of their way to commit tax evasion as per the discussion. I would think that a fair percentage of the ones that have won taxable income playing online poker, which is a very small percentage of the player pool to start with in the first place, and havent paid are young and or ignorant to the tax laws in a lot of instances.

So fwiw and to my point regarding the original context of the discussion, I still would argue confidently that the majority of American players would not purposely avoid playing on US sites for the sole purpose of illegally evading taxes and that the perks of licensed and regulated US poker on a large scale would be more of an incentive than the ability to make tax dodging a little easier which is a marginal ability anyways as if anytime you get a check its not public knowledge of potential income to the government anyways especially these days.

Imo if any competent licensed and regulated sites get up and running in CA that would no doubt effect Bovada and other off shore sites player base substantially and negatively with regards to the business of Cali players even without legal penalties for playing on rogue sites, which is always a possibility as well, barring some ridiculous rake grab or other overreach.
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04-12-2014 , 02:12 PM
Private Freeroll starting at 14:15. How do I get in on this action?
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04-12-2014 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Malefiicus
thanks

today someone else has top set and I turn quads. Weird how that stuff evens out.

Last edited by Halstad; 04-12-2014 at 03:18 PM. Reason: back to the rigtard thread for me
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04-12-2014 , 03:50 PM
Is the Hand History down for everyone? I can see my HH when playing, but it doesn't give me the option to download them at the moment..
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04-12-2014 , 05:07 PM
Am I the only one getting random disconnects on one table when 3 others are running. Randomly getting stalled out when posting a blind. I'm on comcast and have switched back and forth to OpenDNS but still getting disconnects. I have 32MBps when I do a speed test so really don't get it.
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04-12-2014 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Malefiicus
What does this mean? ???
"Both pocket cards must be used by both the losing and winning hand."
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04-12-2014 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ddrew2plus2
What does this mean? ???
"Both pocket cards must be used by both the losing and winning hand."
Just what it says...replace the word "pocket" with "hole" and see if that makes any more sense.
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04-12-2014 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ddrew2plus2
What does this mean? ???
"Both pocket cards must be used by both the losing and winning hand."
It means omaha rules apply. You must use two whole cards along with the best three cards on the board. What part of that is difficult to understand?
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04-12-2014 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ddrew2plus2
What does this mean? ???
"Both pocket cards must be used by both the losing and winning hand."
For example:

If you have 45 and the board is 444j6...that doesn't count.

You need 4A on a board of 444j6 or 44 on a board of 44j66 for it to count.
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04-12-2014 , 06:27 PM
if u are holding A4 and flop 444, you are NOT a qualified hand, despite the wording.
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04-12-2014 , 06:47 PM
if you or your opponents best 5 card hand includes more than 3 cards from the 5 card board then it doesnt count

if u had AA and ur opponent KK on a 36K A K board it would qualify

if u had KK and ur opponent AT on a KAA A 2 board it would not qualify
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04-12-2014 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Wardan
if u are holding A4 and flop 444, you are NOT a qualified hand, despite the wording.
How do you figure? Assuming the other person also uses both hole cards (eg. JJ on a 444JJ board), then that should be a qualifying hand. It wouldn't be if you had 49 in that situation, though.
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04-12-2014 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wardan
if u are holding A4 and flop 444, you are NOT a qualified hand, despite the wording.
"Both pocket cards must be used by both the losing and winning hand."

Explain to me how A4 on a 4449j board is not using both cards to make the best 5 card hand?
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04-12-2014 , 07:45 PM
he does say "despite the wording." I think he means bovada just won't give it to you.
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04-12-2014 , 08:07 PM
Right, it's pretty standard that both hole cards would have to play in the 4 of a kind for most sites' BBJ bonuses, but the wording is incorrect there.
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04-12-2014 , 08:38 PM
I have charter and experienced the same problems you mentioned. I was in $36 tourney and only had connection problems when my hole cards were AKs, AA or KK. I was finally totally disconnected when I was getting close to a payout. I'm am totally disgusted with their site. Too many full houses being beaten by fluke hands that should never have stayed after being raised. I have a couple of tickets left then I'm going to take a long long break from their site.
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04-12-2014 , 09:37 PM
I'm drunk. HU4ROLLZ right now.
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04-12-2014 , 11:56 PM
trips on the board nullifies QUAD bad beat jackpots...must have a pair in the hand for quads..straight flush is a different story
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04-13-2014 , 01:38 AM
Is it me, or does anybody else find it ridiculous they don't have bigger tourneys starting at noon to 1 on Sundays? Just keep bringing the bigger guarantees. I don't see them not making the guarantee on a 10k at one.
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04-13-2014 , 02:25 AM
noobie question on bovada. playing zoom poker and when i try to raise i can put in the exact amount on my keyboard but will not work just pressing enter. actually have to click on the userface. Is this normal? Slows me donwn on zoom and especially multi tabling tournaments.. Thanks!
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04-13-2014 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 4_chainz
noobie question on bovada. playing zoom poker and when i try to raise i can put in the exact amount on my keyboard but will not work just pressing enter. actually have to click on the userface. Is this normal? Slows me donwn on zoom and especially multi tabling tournaments.. Thanks!
There's an option in the settings. You have to uncheck "disable enter for betting" or something along those lines.
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04-13-2014 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by teach2121
trips on the board nullifies QUAD bad beat jackpots...must have a pair in the hand for quads..straight flush is a different story
I know this isn't true at Carbon. I've seen a big beat hand with A8 on an 888xx board (against a straight flush). Are we certain that's not the case at Bovada?
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04-13-2014 , 03:16 AM
Idk, but player 3, you are hilariously bad. Please keep playing.
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