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09-30-2013 , 06:02 PM
That example was just one I had marked , the point was... it was from a villain new to the table, Very high VPIP, WTSDW$ 100%, and just made all the right calls and never the wrong ones even with high cards. Sorry if the example was bad, but I remember that hand and it wasn't like he had a read on me, or that was something that I would normally do. I just agree that I think something was weird about some of the players I've run into.

As far as everyone's comment as to me being a fish or whatever else anyone wants to say, in that hand there were no reads as he had played maybe 30 hands. As far as hand play goes I normally would not do this at all but against this villain, I remember doing this because I wanted to see if he would call me down very light because at this point I had already had my suspicion from previous sessions. The point of the post, and I shouldn't have posted a hand is that I do think there was something going on, I'm not one to think that sites or rigged or anything but when I ran into this player over and over again something just didn't seem right.

Also if you think that HH is going to invite a ton of people to Bovada you're just wrong. Tons of regs don't play on Bovada not because they don't know that the player pool is awful, it's because Bovada is very reg unfriendly. Anonymous tables, **** Huds, 4 table cash max, no structured breaks for tourneys, slow software, no rake back, bad point systems, ect. Get off your high horse and thinking that Bovada is a huge kept secret gem that only a few people know about.... people know bovada is soft, people don't play there for other reasons.
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09-30-2013 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnston666
it was from a villain new to the table, Very high VPIP
lol
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09-30-2013 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
lol
Yea that's good take it out of context...

The guy was playing just like the other times I had my doubts, and even with a small HH sample someone playing 90%+ of hands and not losing any of them in an entire session is suspicious.
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09-30-2013 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnston666
Yea that's good take it out of context...
At least out of context it doesn't look like someone whining about losing his lunch money.
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09-30-2013 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
At least out of context it doesn't look like someone whining about losing his lunch money.
I could care less about the money, I just have suspicion of a player on Bovada. That's all. Posting that HH was a mistake, I get that. But if you want to try to make this about something it's not go ahead troll away...
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09-30-2013 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnston666
I could care less about the money, I just have suspicion of a player on Bovada. That's all. Posting that HH was a mistake, I get that. But if you want to try to make this about something it's not go ahead troll away...
If you post some actual proof, I would be more than happy to read it. Until then your posts are exactly as I've described them.
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09-30-2013 , 06:53 PM
I play on a mac and it was working fine the past week. Today, all of the sudden, it won't load. I trashed and re installed a few times and its still doing the same thing. The app goes to the loading screen, bar stays empty then the app just vanishes on its own from the dock.

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09-30-2013 , 07:02 PM
Just deposited yesterday -- how do you know when you've received a deposit bonus or a portion of one? So far I've put in enough volume to earn 130 points over the last 24 hours.

Liking the site a little more than expected, although it could be a little faster.
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09-30-2013 , 07:25 PM
Has anyone ever won a package for a live event through bovada? I want to try and satellite my way into the WPT in Montreal, but want to make sure everything goes smoothly if I am able to win. thanks
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09-30-2013 , 07:28 PM
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Just deposited yesterday -- how do you know when you've received a deposit bonus or a portion of one? So far I've put in enough volume to earn 130 points over the last 24 hours.

Liking the site a little more than expected, although it could be a little faster.
The initial deposit bonus is activated upon your first deposit. It isn't tracked anywhere and will be released in junks after you've earned specific point amounts. It can take up to 24 hours to get paid once you hit those targets. If you email support they will email you the matrix so you can see how many points it will take for the specific junks, it is also hidden on their website somewhere.

Bottom line, if you're looking for a neat little tracking bar or some sort of confirmation it's active within the client, it doesn't exist.
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09-30-2013 , 08:41 PM
I got an email for some free 10 dollars to the casino thing. When I clicked to get it later I see they deducted 10 dollars from my poker money. Is that what the hell they do and you have to play 100 times the amount to get it back
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09-30-2013 , 09:00 PM
Is there an opt in bonus for this upcoming week? I know the back to school one is done for.

Obv link if there is.
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09-30-2013 , 09:08 PM
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Is there an opt in bonus for this upcoming week? I know the back to school one is done for.

Obv link if there is.
yes
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09-30-2013 , 09:12 PM
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And here's why no one wants these hands posted in this thread. It invites every micro stakes idiot wannabe pro to post perfectly standard hands as reasons why he thinks he's being cheated.
Results oriented.
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09-30-2013 , 09:14 PM
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I 99% think there is something going on. <snip>
Thanks, but one hand is probably not sufficient. If you have more hands from this session where villain continues to make thin calls but also correctly folds much stronger hands, then that may be worth taking a look at it.
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09-30-2013 , 09:31 PM
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And here's why no one wants these hands posted in this thread. It invites every micro stakes idiot wannabe pro to post perfectly standard hands as reasons why he thinks he's being cheated.
+1

If anyone truly believes they have evidence of a rig or superuser activity start a new thread.

If you are correct, it clearly deserves its own thread.

If you are just being silly, at least you wont be derailing this useful thread and a mod can quickly ship it to the rigged thread if they deem it ridiculous.
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09-30-2013 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnston666
As far as everyone's comment as to me being a fish or whatever else anyone wants to say, in that hand there were no reads as he had played maybe 30 hands. As far as hand play goes I normally would not do this at all but against this villain, I remember doing this because I wanted to see if he would call me down very light because at this point I had already had my suspicion from previous sessions. T
Have you ever considered betting larger than half pot when trying to get fishy call down station to fold?
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09-30-2013 , 11:59 PM
lol at the superusers. Nobody with the ability to see all cards and the flop,turn,and river is sitting in your 10.25 microgame. Your just getting unlucky vs some 25nl donks.
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10-01-2013 , 01:55 AM
I guess it's hands like this. Look at what everyone has. This particular guy won I think 8 buy-ins in about 1.5 hours. This guy he stacks was new to the table. No way he has any reads of any sorts.

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1.00 - No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

    Hero (MP): $125.06 (125.1 bb)
    CO: $156.58 (156.6 bb)
    BTN: $64 (64 bb)
    SB: $136.70 (136.7 bb)
    BB: $100 (100 bb)
    UTG: $353.10 (353.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J T
    UTG calls $1.00, Hero raises to $5, CO folds, BTN calls $5, SB calls $4.5, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

    Flop: ($25) 7 7 9 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($25) 4 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, BB raises to $42, UTG calls $42, Hero folds

    River: ($129) 8 (2 players)
    BB bets $62 and is all-in, UTG calls $62

    Spoiler:
    Results: $246 pot ($3 rake)
    Final Board: 7 7 9 4 8
    Hero mucked J T and lost (-$21 net)
    CO mucked 8 A and lostBTN mucked Q A and lost (-$5 net)
    SB mucked J A and lost (-$5 net)
    BB showed K Q and lost (-$100 net)
    UTG showed 5 4 and won $246 ($144 net)

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    10-01-2013 , 02:44 AM
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    Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
    I guess it's hands like this. Look at what everyone has. This particular guy won I think 8 buy-ins in about 1.5 hours. This guy he stacks was new to the table. No way he has any reads of any sorts.

      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1.00 - No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      Hero (MP): $125.06 (125.1 bb)
      CO: $156.58 (156.6 bb)
      BTN: $64 (64 bb)
      SB: $136.70 (136.7 bb)
      BB: $100 (100 bb)
      UTG: $353.10 (353.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with J T
      UTG calls $1.00, Hero raises to $5, CO folds, BTN calls $5, SB calls $4.5, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

      Flop: ($25) 7 7 9 (5 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($25) 4 (5 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, BB raises to $42, UTG calls $42, Hero folds

      River: ($129) 8 (2 players)
      BB bets $62 and is all-in, UTG calls $62

      Spoiler:
      Results: $246 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 7 7 9 4 8
      Hero mucked J T and lost (-$21 net)
      CO mucked 8 A and lostBTN mucked Q A and lost (-$5 net)
      SB mucked J A and lost (-$5 net)
      BB showed K Q and lost (-$100 net)
      UTG showed 5 4 and won $246 ($144 net)
      That looks super fishy. Honestly though if anything fishy was up, it would be collusion. For example, the bet from UTG on turn followed by big raise from BB could be a little scheme to scare all other players out of pot so they can collect the $25 in pot on turn and split it.

      It's just very fishy behavior from both parties there. BB reraising hero with K high, after hero is already raising UTG's bet just seems like an absolutely... Insane play. I want to say maniacal but even most maniacs don't get that crazy. Then UTG calls with a pair of 4s and 2 raisers after him? Then calls the river all-in? Yeah that hand is suspicious as ****

      I think you got yourself a couple of colluders and should def report it to Bovada support
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      10-01-2013 , 02:52 AM
      I think you worry too much.

      UTG donk leads turn for almost nothing, you raise, BB donk bluffs figuring UTG could have nothing and you rarely have a hand after checking the flop, UTG durrr I have two pair I call, river comes, UTG Im checking, BB durrr Ill keep bluffing with minimal fold equity and pray UTG has a busted FD that will fold, UTG Im invested I call.

      Honestly, I would never think of superusers if I saw this hand.

      Id just chuckle and be glad Im at a good table.
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      10-01-2013 , 02:58 AM
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      Originally Posted by CalBeastMode
      That looks super fishy. Honestly though if anything fishy was up, it would be collusion. For example, the bet from UTG on turn followed by big raise from BB could be a little scheme to scare all other players out of pot so they can collect the $25 in pot on turn and split it.

      It's just very fishy behavior from both parties there. BB reraising hero with K high, after hero is already raising UTG's bet just seems like an absolutely... Insane play. I want to say maniacal but even most maniacs don't get that crazy. Then UTG calls with a pair of 4s and 2 raisers after him? Then calls the river all-in? Yeah that hand is suspicious as ****

      I think you got yourself a couple of colluders and should def report it to Bovada support

      There is nothing in this hand that would lead me to think they are colluding either.
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      10-01-2013 , 03:26 AM
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      Originally Posted by MarkoPolo
      The initial deposit bonus is activated upon your first deposit. It isn't tracked anywhere and will be released in junks after you've earned specific point amounts. It can take up to 24 hours to get paid once you hit those targets. If you email support they will email you the matrix so you can see how many points it will take for the specific junks, it is also hidden on their website somewhere.

      Bottom line, if you're looking for a neat little tracking bar or some sort of confirmation it's active within the client, it doesn't exist.
      Thanks -- this is exactly the info I was seeking
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      10-01-2013 , 03:29 AM
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      Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
      I think you worry too much.

      UTG donk leads turn for almost nothing, you raise, BB donk bluffs figuring UTG could have nothing and you rarely have a hand after checking the flop, UTG durrr I have two pair I call, river comes, UTG Im checking, BB durrr Ill keep bluffing with minimal fold equity and pray UTG has a busted FD that will fold, UTG Im invested I call.

      Honestly, I would never think of superusers if I saw this hand.

      Id just chuckle and be glad Im at a good table.
      The guy has a VPIP over 85%+ and in about 1.5 hours was up about 8 buy-ins making a lot of calls and plays like this. I'm going to spend some more time and look at this session and some past ones that looked super suspicious. Like I said from the start, I've played over 3 million hands online on just about every site. I've seen about every play you can think of, and I've never suspected or thought of anything suspicious before EVER. I'm not just coming out of left field here.

      And yes, I agree that the turn 3-bettor could have thought, oh no one has anything, I'll take it down with K high. That's plausible, but dude calls with bottom pair with me still left to act, stacks this guy, guy leaves that get stacked (he was there all of 1 hand I believe). Then someone else 15-20 minutes later comes in and a similar type situation happens, and he leaves. I dunno... just seems out of the norm that's all I'm saying.
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      10-01-2013 , 03:38 AM
      I should also note and say that I've played off and on at Bovada/Bodog for maybe 6 years (last 2 years more consistently), and I've seen a lot of bad gambly play over the years. Nothing that I've suspected before though, let alone reported or even posted about.
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