So I've played at a professional and semi-professional level for about 9 years now. I've been playing off and on at Bovada the last couple of years. All of a sudden the last maybe 2 months, there's a lot of these guys at the tables that are playing 85%+ of their hands. Making calls that just make zero sense. Bluffing at all the right times, calling down in the slimest of spots. Just really odd behavior. I've never thought or accused anyone of something fishy going on, but is anyone else seeing this? And before you just say, yeah it's bovada. Ok, correct, there are some bad players. However, this is really out of the norm. I'm going to post some hands tomorrow that are just not explainable honestly. I've seen some really bad and lucky players before, but nothing even slightly like this. And again, I've never even really considered that something is up on any site before and I've probably played well over 3 million hands online.

I guess I'm just curious if anyone else is having any legitimate suspicions.

Lol.. much rather have rakeback than some $30 bonus.

Please post those hands in this thread.

Dude, do you own this thread? I think 50% of your posts are "no one gives a ****" or "don't post that." I want to see his hands.

You can't view rigtard thread?

edit: I don't think I post that much in this thread and rarely in the nature you speak of.

Happens to me every weekend when the droolers are out in full force.

Can't make hands against every station that calls down with bottom pair and then run 5+ BI under EV when I do get hands in.

Grinding out the variance is a tad slow considering the table limit but when the money comes in, it's hand over fist.

Have never had reason to believe of any SU-type stuff going on, and it would seem far too dumb (nickel and diming people in poker while running a profitable sportsbook).

I pretty certain he's not suggesting it's rigged, at least not in context of a regular rigtard who thinks their AA lose to much.

+1

Ya, I'm not saying anything beyond that what I've been observing has been way out of the norm for the usual droolers on Bovada. Maybe it's totally just some extremely odd coincidence. I honestly don't know. I'm going to look through a lot of these hands on suspicious tables, and I will post some along with anything else I find. It's just seems like a similar kind of player. It's not like they are totally incompetent, but at the same time they are making plays that don't have any consistent pattern. Again, I've never even suspected this before, and I've played on just about every major site you can name over the years. It's really never even been a consideration. It's just literally been in the last maybe 2 months, that there's a similar kind of player that tends to get up 7+ buy-ins making playing that make zero sense.

Edit.

Freak, to be clear, are you implying you think you could have been be a victim of collusion, or are you implying that there could be "superusers" on Bovada?

Have you sent these bothersome hands to Bovada support?

To be honest, posting them here is useless if you are implying some sort of SU scenario. Only Bovada would be able to connect multiple sessions to the same player. Im not sure how any of us would be able to differentiate something nefarious from a fish on a heater with regards to a solo session. I mean, on every site on the internet as we speak there is some drunk calling down all his chips nine high and hitting runner runner straight. This would only really look overly suspicious with a significant sample size, which you cant produce.

That is one of the things that sucks about anonymous obviously.

If you are really that spooked, Id just play elsewhere.

I 99% think there is something going on. This has been happening to me at least for the past maybe 2 months since I've noticed and the Villains always have very similar stats and behaviors. I have marked a ton of hands in HEM that were just un-explainable and am almost sure there is something very messed up going on. I never wanted to mention it because I didn't want to be that guy but since someone else mentioned it... I'm thinking I'm going to look into it more. Here is just an example of a hand that went down with me and this type of mentioned villian and this guy had been making calls like this for the time he was at the table.

I've seen call downs like this millions of times. How is this even a questionable hand? A reg or donk is plenty capable of this calldown.

Lol yeah I've also seen this kind of call down many times on all diff sites. It's not even crazy at all if you had already shown the table that you are the type to be firing 3 big barrels with A high lol

And this is why I play @ Bovada (in regards to villain and Hero's play). There's something called adjusting.

I've seen people call full stacked shoves on AJx with say JTo. There's no rhyme or reason sometimes (besides, I have 1 pear; I call).

And everybody cant wait to see Bovada become the next reg-infested site it seems

Well, take a look, but I don't think this hand would be an example. You could see someone bad doing this very easily. Usually there tends to be 2 types of players that are playing nearly every hand on Bovada. The complete fish drooler that just doesn't know what he's doing, and is truly bad, and the gambling hyper aggressive nutball that gets off on making crazy bluffs a lot. This kind of player I've seen (and again, this has just been about the last couple of months), fits neither of those categories. They are seemingly a lot smarter, and somehow are making calls in 150BB+ pots with bottom pair or I've even seen Ace high. The first few times I saw this, I was mainly like whoa, that's one lucky azz sob. Then you keep seeing it increasingly more and it starts to raise questions. I'm only playing 100-200nl on there right now, so maybe that it's at smaller stakes is even absurd to begin with, but not sure it's totally out of the question either.

Regardless, I'm going to do some hand research and I'll post what I find when I'm done. Again, maybe it's just totally random coincidence. I'm in no way saying X or Y is definitely going on. Just trying to see if anyone else has noticed things out of the bovada/bodog norm lately.

I apologize if this is posted in the wrong place, and i tried a search with no results.

I just bought a new laptop (ASUS SC500 w/ Windows 8) and i am trying to install the bovada client. It gets halfway through the setup then uninstalls. A setup error pops up saying that the file is corrupt. I have Vipre anti-virus but I disabled it and still no luck.

Bovada tech support was unable to help.

Any ideas? Anybody else with Windows 8 have similar issues?

Thanks!

I have Bovada on my Windows 8 laptop with no issues. The only thing I could suggest is maybe try running the installer in compatibility mode or run as administrator, but I got nothing outside of that unfortunately.

I am the only user so i assume i am the adminstrator? And I am not sure how to get into compatibility mode. Still trying to figure out windows 8.
Thanks.

I really like how bovada's banner for their new promo for WPT Montreal is of an igloo. I mean, that's basically all Canada is, right? Snow and igloos?

Got my $25 bonus. Bet it all on Saints to cover.

To be fair, winning a seat to an event being played in an igloo would be pretty...

And here's why no one wants these hands posted in this thread. It invites every micro stakes idiot wannabe pro to post perfectly standard hands as reasons why he thinks he's being cheated.

Bad idea... You're more prone to viruses/malware when you run as an admin user all the time. Make a separate admin/password protected account, and use the non-admin account all of the time.