ive played a thousand or two hu 5/10 hands vs this strategy. thanks for pointing out its a bot. feel like im gonna absolutely torch 'him' in the coming days now that i have this info. also, at least in my experience hes a bit too nitty IP facing normal size 3bets. moreso in non hu spots.

I've seen the $13 open a lot at 200NL - the first few times I thought it was a mis click but as pointed out sometimes they are multiple players at the table doing it now.

Are those Jams part of their strategy or do you think its a malfunction? I wish I had been marking them so I can review. One opened to 6.5x and then jammed 150bb into a ~15bb pot on a 9 high flop (can't remember how coordinated it was). I had heard on ACR a few bots malfunctioned by jamming flops and people were cleaning up until the bot operators fixed it a few days later.

Can you guys please stop talking about bot strats here?...

Make a private group or something but don't make it easier for the bot developers to improve there leaks.

the acr ones were bugging out hardcore right after bomb pots were first introduced, that was really fun to see a 16/12/6 hud just ripping in bottom pair 2nd to act lmao

the iggy jams ive only seen a couple times and havent seen the showdowns its probably just built in low frequency stuff kinda like some postflop sims u see the occasional stuff just liking to jam flop for whatever reason

the 6.5x opens definitely feel like a collusion tactic, similar to the 200plo bots that crushed pokerstars zoom. I think it likes to do it when there are these conditions

1.a villian (any non colluder) in the BB, as this is the only position that would rather see a standard size
2.at least one co-colluder to heros left, that is folding pre. the pos that 6.5bb happens the most on is BTN. if sb has a walk hand, and BB is a villain, then 6.5x is almost for sure a better size than 2.5 vs pool.

6.5x will punt a bunch of ev to the non-bb positions left to act, which is why u mostly see it used on co or btn. BTW, im not trying to act like im a bot expert or super sharp with this stuff, im just spitballing ideas here from my hands played and its interesting to me


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the acr ones were bugging out hardcore right after bomb pots were first introduced, that was really fun to see a 16/12/6 hud just ripping in bottom pair 2nd to act lmao

the iggy jams ive only seen a couple times and havent seen the showdowns its probably just built in low frequency stuff kinda like some postflop sims u see the occasional stuff just liking to jam flop for whatever reason

the 6.5x opens definitely feel like a collusion tactic, similar to the 200plo bots that crushed pokerstars zoom. I think it likes to do it when there are these conditions

1.a villian (any non colluder) in the BB, as this is the only position that would rather see a standard size
2.at least one co-colluder to heros left, that is folding pre. the pos that 6.5bb happens the most on is BTN. if sb has a walk hand, and BB is a villain, then 6.5x is almost for sure a better size than 2.5 vs pool.

6.5x will punt a bunch of ev to the non-bb positions left to act, which is why u mostly see it used on co or btn. BTW, im not trying to act like im a bot expert or super sharp with this stuff, im just spitballing ideas here from my hands played and its interesting to me

x6.5 or in 500



lol

Can we talk on discord? He's up quite a bit vs me in HU. His 3b range seems to be tighter 6 handed and a high fold to 3b.

Edit: Also seen him at 500nl

ya its dbrinker

High stakes PLO guy here, games seemed to have been cleanish for a while recently but I have confirmed rampant cheating at cash tables. Highly recommend you take your action off this site immediately.

Guys or i am dumb ... But at Bodog there is no timebank button to see how do much timebank left ?

Games are literally unreal right now with the collusion/bots. Has anyone moved to either ACR or Coin poker and have a recommendation between the two? Just looking for a site where I am only cheated a little bit. Thanks.

ACR is quite busy atm dealing with an embarrassing situation.

Gemaco you play full ring correct?

Where do unregulated state U.S.A. players turn to play?

WPN? lol

Global? Low traffic above $50 stakes

Chico? Low traffic above $100 stakes, HIGH rake, seat scripters.

Risk getting stiffed or banned on the apps, while also fighting bot farms and collusion?

Hope things turnaround and get cleaned up some on Bovition?

I have no good live action within 3 hours of me.

Genuinely looking for advice here. If any mid or high stakes regs would be kind enough to offer some opinions

what's up with all these playes buying in for 30-40BB?? bots? It's happening quite a bit at 25NL and 50NL

I play FR and 6max, 200NL and 500NL. I am just looking for a good table, so I will play wherever I think I will have the highest hourly. I only have about ~10 hours a week budgeted for playing poker so I want to make the best of it. A few years ago it was easy to get 2-3 tables of 500NL FR and they were good games; now its mostly bots.

I would rather play online for obvious reasons but it doesn't feel like there are any good choices right now.

There at 200NL too. I think they are bots and/or colluding with some of the full stacks.

So, I guess I'm the only person that's had no MTTs listed for the past 20 hours or so? I see nothing about it on my e-mail, or Ignition's Twitter page, or from anybody else. Every other game seems to be running. And I'm not one of these max-tank bubble guys, for the record. What's happening?

Edit: What's happening is that I somehow unclicked the hold'em option (and omaha already is unclicked). Won't ninja delete this post, maybe someone will learn from my stupidity!

That's some glitch on your PC or something, full schedule available on my lobby

I've been playing quite a bit of 200z (including when the pool is very small) and have no suspicions of collusion. I think there's a bot or two that's always there, but I can deal.

I wish this was it, I'd feel less dumb (see my edit)

vpn. us online poker never been deader

Maybe people are finally starting to realize that min raising is stupid as hell?

Is there any way to see the time bank left at the tables?

lol

Anyway, on Iggy, 200z is sufficiently soft (sometimes extremely so) and the MTTs up to the 1ks seem soft; I don't see a huge problem with the state of online poker for Americans. Sure, it's worse than it was... but that was ALWAYS gonna be the case; relative to that I think it's doing OK.

I kinda like the ACR MTTs (and have done well in them). They're tougher, some bots (although fewer now, from what I've heard?), but loads of US fish too. Basically, as long as Americans are allowed to play online poker, it'll be feasible as a career. I also played 200 and 400nl on ACR, which are regarded as some of the toughest games available to US players, and indeed they were fairly tough, but even those games had 1 fish on average per table.

Edit: I should note that I used to play 500z pretty regularly but have mostly since stopped even thinking about it, as it runs so sparingly, so that's a point in your (tgiggity) favor

I mean, aren't GG and Stars vastly tougher than US facing sites? No Americans!

edit: you may be referring to available volume only, but even then, I'm skeptical for those who play a variety of game types