LULz... I have a bunch of horses that I stake on Bovada, 1 of them did the same thing you did and he had his account shut down, that's why I was asking.

After they gave the evidence I gave my guy ****, because it was pretty obvious what he was trying to do, and yes its a freeroll and not the way the bonus is designed to work.

Good luck with your lawyer, I hope you don't end up paying more in legal fees that you're owed, because in case you didn't know, you are bound by the laws of Kahnawake.... not the USA...

Or not.

Your last few posts did you no favors.

I just hope for your sake that the lawyer you allegedly hired has a cooler head on his shoulders.

Favors? Who is looking for favors? I am telling people what happened.

You can make up your mind and judge all you want, that's well within your right on a fkn forum. But the truth is the truth. The truth is they have these bonuses set up so that people do not get paid.

The lawyer hates seeing people take advantage of me, so let's just say that they are in it until the end for the pure joy of righting a wrong. There is no amount of time or effort that will not be available towards settling this.

I am aware of where the gaming commission is located and what filing a dispute entails.

If my posts are snarky and "not doing me any favors" it is because I am pissed. And you idiots should be pissed too, but some people do not see it until it happens to them. You may be breaking a rule you do not know about right now, and won't know about it until you try and get a payout. That was my main point in posting on this forum and I have already received inbox messages from people super worried because they operate the EXACT same way with the bonuses, and have since the new system was in place, and are waiting for payouts that are probably going to be cancelled as well.

So, if this applies to you, great join the conversation. If it doesn't, fk off and go about your business.

After his last post it was fairly obvious he was systematically exploiting the bovada bonus system. Actively doing something he knows he shouldn't be doing.

Does not look good especially if it is against Bovada's terms of service.

What I disagree with is for people like myself that would get a $100 on slots and lose $100 on the poker table. Am I not justified with any winnings now from slots?

It seems it's a grey area and def can make it so people don't get paid. Obviously absuing it can result in a ban, but I feel like a warning should be issued since it's not really in the bonus disclosure.

It doesn't say you can't take the free $ and use it just for slots while you blow (or win) on the real cash game tables.

I hope your not saying I was actively doing something I knew was wrong? Maybe this guy and his friend that you quoted. But you are 100% incorrect if you are talking about me.

I am an extremely accomplished and upstanding person - I have never cheated, or exploited a gd thing, much less a poker bonus system. It is so laughable. They designed it to be intentionally misleading and now they are not paying.

All of my funds were used to gamble. ALL OF THEM. There was no exploitation of the bonus, there was only redeeming it.

But go ahead, defend a criminal enterprise. I will still welcome you with open arms when they do something similar to you. I use to defend Bovada all the time. Having been with them for ten fkn years. But this, this is a joke. It was designed to be vague and be at their disposal to use to deny payment. That simple.

Guy was pretty clearly and purposefully abusing the bonus system. Probably for a long time. If you had to 'park' your deposit $ in tournament buy ins so you could 'take advantage' of a slot bonus then clearly you're playing outside the rules. You're not the first guy to come in here with this same type of issue. Maybe you'll find some sympathetic folks on Reddit?

Note to self: quit trying to con your way into some free monies.

So you emptied your account, re-deposited $100 to get the matching slots bonus, register for tournaments (but don't play). Rinse & repeat.

That sure sounds like exploiting the bonus system.

I'm sure bovada looked at your past deposit history and came to the same conclusion.

I'm confused on what he did wrong. If you deposit for the slots bonus you cannot play ANY poker at the same time? You must play only slots until that bonus is cleared? Or am I misunderstanding what he did?

Say I have 1k in my balance already, deposit $100 for the slots bonus, and play 4 tables of 100nl while playing slots. Is this legal?

LOL. And where exactly is this lawyer going to file a law suit. In the Indian reservation. LOL

TJBWaves, if what you did isn't abusing the bonus system would you care to explain what you think is abusing the system?

It sounds like you've done this many times and use the excuse that others are doing it too and why are they giving these bonuses out to players if they don't want them to use it. The fact that you hit a jackpot likely triggered an audit of your account and they likely saw that you've been freerolling these bonuses for a while.

Bovada is the most reputable site in the USA and they aren't using an excuse to take your money. You gave them an excuse to take your money.

I was on your side initially but you've done yourself no favors pointing fingers and making excuses. I guess it's a good thing you are well off and enjoying life in your beachfront property because you won't be getting this $11,000 back.

It was a slot bonus not a poker bonus. Now your lawyer is the one that will get a bonus.

going to vegas soon to bink a few tournies.. i read bovada dont accept new bovada players or something? planning to grind some bovada on some days, we can play bovada in vegas right? it would suck if we're not allowed to..

Listen, in my heart of hearts, I know I did nothing wrong. I am an extremely honest player and that why I have had a successful 10 years with Bovada.
If they make this right, which they may, then I will be back singing their praises.

I don't want to fight about it with a bunch of people who do not have the details, I just wanted to let people know this is a problem so they do not have the same problem during a withdrawal.

Peace & Love to you all. Will update once there is a finality.

How long does this usually take? What do the fees for cashouts look like? I always just cashout via check and wait the 1-2 weeks until it arrives and then deposit in bank ez pz never had any issues.

nope, gonna have to sign up/play on wsop while youre there

ya, check arent a bad option because Bovada gets them to you pretty quickly but BTC is much better. i believe there is never a fee for withdrawing via BTC and u can request them once every 5 days. Someone correct me if im wrong. But that's the beauty of BTC, its basically fee free. there is no third party payment processing company that runs the risk of processing checks for USA players for example (illegal, someone can correct me if im wrong again). So the BTC is an open market that kind of regulates itself. I dont know a lot of details but I do know I have received more than handful of BTC withdrawals from WPN and I just received my first from Merge today. these withdrawals are usually processed much faster than checks. My merge one for instance took 5 days to process, i received the money in my bitcoin wallet already. Bovada will be just as fast if not faster. I had a small hiccup on my first Bovada BTC withdrawal because the address I wanted the bitcoin sent to had been used in the past, somehow Bovada knew this, even though I received BTC with said address from WPN.

long story short: btc is easy to use and will save you some fees. Here is how to setup, read this a few times(first post) - replace the word WPN with Bovada when reading that first post and wha la: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...draws-1502384/

If you already have an account shouldn't be a problem. I grinded Bovada there last summer when I wasn't playing live. If you don't have an account then you won't be able to sign up in Nevada.

I don't want to bring my laptop for nothing!
I emailed bovada and their response was..

Hi Champ,

Thanks for contacting Bovada Customer Service.

Unfortunately, as Nevada is a restricted state, you will not be able to access your account from there.

We’re available to help 24/7 if you need anything else.

Thanks,

Bovada Customer Service
[email protected]

1-888-263-0000

If you play your normal games everything should be OK. What it sounds like was doing was pre-registering for tournaments (not playing them) to park the money so he could gamble with the bonus risk-free [if he lost he could just unregister and not have a lost a cent of his own money]. Its the exact same thing as the guy who was sitting at limit tables (not playing I would assume) to 'protect' his balance while only playing the bonus. It should be obvious to anyone that this is bonus abuse.

And the other poster was right, the reason they closed his account now is any decent size win probably triggers an audit, they probably looked at his account and saw he had been doing this over and over again.

My best advice is this: If your about to do something that you think might not be 100% legit (like you think you discovered some bonus loophole) then its probably not a good idea. If your just doing your normal grind while trying to clear a bonus in the process then your probably fine.

Are bonuses automatically added to your balance as they are released or do they get added? I lost track of what my balance was supposed to be and am not sure if it's been added.

Also what do I have to do to "unlock" my balance so I can withdraw? I deposited via bitcoin so never gave any identification.

anybody have any connection issues about 20 minutes ago..didn't last long

That's not what he did. He had $500 in his account and then withdrew it all. He then deposited $100 and got a $100 bonus. He then registered for $100 worth of tournaments to park the funds and free rolled with the $100 bonus. It's pretty clearly an abuse of the bonus system.

THe only thing I agree with him on is that Bovada does not say this is illegal anywhere in their rules or terms of service, then I don't think they should confiscate funds. Some people may truly believe what they are doing is not abuse if they read the terms and don't see anything prohibiting it.

I miss the old bonus system so much, where it separated casino chips and cash. Those weekly match bonuses you could play with your existing balance were amazing. All good things must end. Especially with how much $ bovada must have been losing on them.

I'm too confused by the new system and scared Ill accidentally do something to get my account confiscated by trying it out