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07-09-2015 , 03:03 PM
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07-09-2015 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stlcardinals
Nobody gives a single **** whether you play this tourney or not.
Nobody gives a single **** whether you think anyone gives a single **** whether or not I play the tourny.

You're probably one of those stalling pathetic wastes of life too stupid to realize how awful that garbage is for the games.

Gfy.
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07-09-2015 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Here is my biggest worry. When u play a game like bodog I think u lose certain skills that are needed at games where u have info. Like live or screen name game online. I just with about becoming reboot and just trying up make hands. anyone can sit there all day and just wait to hit hands and be a winner, but thy will be a smaller winner then people who are actually able to play poker. This my worry.
Online is already different than live and Bodog was already very different than other online sites due to their much smaller table cap.it's just another adjustment to make.
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07-09-2015 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Nobody gives a single **** whether you think anyone gives a single **** whether or not I play the tourny.

You're probably one of those stalling pathetic wastes of life too stupid to realize how awful that garbage is for the games.

Gfy.
I care
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07-09-2015 , 04:36 PM
I've enjoyed perusing this thread and I'd like to add a few comments.

First of all, regarding the anonymous players, it is merely a different skill required. Of course, I can't keep notes on players. But sometimes it is hard to craft good notes. Some named players have good/bad days. It takes awhile. But I am usually very good at getting a read on players. The anonymous format works to my advantage. If you are slow in drawing conclusions, Bovada is not the place to play.

Now, like you, the STALLING gets so f-annoying. I see folks stalling every hand from the get-go, well before registration is finalized. Now, I can see if you are on the bubble late in the tourney, it might be worthwhile. But mostly, I see mindless stalling. My question to the group: am I missing something? Seriously, so many people do it that I am wondering if there is some strategic advantage to playing this way (other than pissing people off and hopefully hurting their play)? Why stall?

Mel
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07-09-2015 , 04:50 PM
The stalling is totally frustrating. Short stacks at bubble time I don't really have an issue with. But like others, I neither understand, nor appreciate the stalling from early on in a tourney. I was on somebody's ass about it last night (well, a couple people, but one in particular). And I was happy when the idiot ended up bubbling. And, of course, the stalling when it's down to hand-for-hand play is also quite tilting. But, if we want to profit, I guess we have to allow for there being stupid people in the game. I've also seen huge stacks stalling and I don't get that at all unless they're multitasking so much they can't be bothered to get on with it.
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07-09-2015 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
U may be right. If I could get people to stop hitting and runnin at heads up tables I would be fine
I have the opposite problem at Bovada HU. Everyone loses and runs.
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07-09-2015 , 04:55 PM
HU zone would be fun and solve some of the hit and running.
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07-09-2015 , 04:55 PM
I'm typically not the quickest decision maker in hands. Combine that with playing many tables at once (e.g. essentially 100% of MTTs >$30 BI every sunday) and I often find myself resorting to a quick timebank dip for what would likely be considered trivial decisions. There's definitely some people that just take a while for the sake of doing so, and that's unfortunate, but I imagine a lot of higher volume grinders frequently find themselves in my situation.
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07-09-2015 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JERRYJ0NES
HU zone would be fun and solve some of the hit and running.
I doubt it would ever run at 200nl and greater. Bumhunters would likely be unwilling to jump in the pool.
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07-09-2015 , 04:58 PM
SaJeffe:

Actually, I can see stalling in hand-for-hand play.

Suppose I have $20 and the another guy has $25. But he will hit the BB before me. Suppose the BB is going to go from $20 to $25 in 5 minutes. I might stall just so the BB will increase. That situation is not a total rarity.

Anyway, here we have supposedly decent poker players. WHY STALL? HERD MENTALITY?

Mel
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07-09-2015 , 05:16 PM
And telling everyone this obvious, but not ubiquitous thought helps you how?
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07-09-2015 , 05:18 PM
Oh, the horror of it.

Just some poker discussion.

Mel
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07-09-2015 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by compiler
SaJeffe:

Actually, I can see stalling in hand-for-hand play.

Suppose I have $20 and the another guy has $25. But he will hit the BB before me. Suppose the BB is going to go from $20 to $25 in 5 minutes. I might stall just so the BB will increase. That situation is not a total rarity.

Anyway, here we have supposedly decent poker players. WHY STALL? HERD MENTALITY?

Mel
LOL oops. This actually did occur last night too - and I was the one who had to stall.
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07-09-2015 , 07:38 PM
When you're hiding behind a # it's easy to lack common HU courtesy. I'm not sure which is worse here, the hit and runners who go from table to table or the bum hunters who won't even play you if you sit with 100bbs. I wish they'd go to a system where only X amount of tables spawn until they are full and then another empty HU table would appear. It'd get rid of the bum hunters and drive more action for the site, seems like a win win to me.
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07-09-2015 , 09:03 PM
If you specialize your game to exploit a very small sample of the total population of players (HUHU), maybe you that should focus on trying to beat a larger group of people instead of complaining about stuff you can't control.
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07-09-2015 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fredd-bird
If you specialize your game to exploit a very small sample of the total population of players (HUHU), maybe you that should focus on trying to beat a larger group of people instead of complaining about stuff you can't control.
You can't control the collusion and botting that goes on in the other games yet people still complain about it. Different strokes for different folks, though on Bovada you kind of have to play more than HU because they cap it so low.

Last edited by iPlayPLOhigh; 07-09-2015 at 09:25 PM. Reason: The bum hunters hurt the entire population, LDO
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07-09-2015 , 09:28 PM
I keep downloading my ring game hands and running them through some software to analyze them...it seems i'm only getting a portion of the winning hands and all of the losing hands. Is it possible that I'm not receiving the final hand at the table? perhaps that could have something to do with it?

I've won quite a bit on bovada since mid May. Yet, all of my hand histories (which are being converted correctly) show that I am down nearly $9,000. I am almost certainly missing hands somewhere. What could be causing this? Is anyone else having this problem?
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07-09-2015 , 10:11 PM
Not allowed to sit at a table because software is out-dated, do I just need to re-install?
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07-09-2015 , 11:11 PM
When downloading hand histories it's missing the vast majority of winning hands. I play heads up and my distribution of winning hands to losing hands is about 55% winning hands and 45% losing hands.

When I download that bovada hand histories they show about 85% losing hands and 15% winning hands. It seems to be showing all the large hands both winning and losing, but for some reason there are way more small losing pots than small winning pots when the number of these types of hands should be somewhat similar.

Is anyone else having this happen?
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07-09-2015 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CAvino
When downloading hand histories it's missing the vast majority of winning hands. I play heads up and my distribution of winning hands to losing hands is about 55% winning hands and 45% losing hands.

When I download that bovada hand histories they show about 85% losing hands and 15% winning hands. It seems to be showing all the large hands both winning and losing, but for some reason there are way more small losing pots than small winning pots when the number of these types of hands should be somewhat similar.

Is anyone else having this happen?
What happens to me is I'll have say "10 files found 100 hands processed" in the Bovada Converter, but when I go to import into HM1 it will only import "10 files and roughly 88 hands". The only solution that works for me is to go re-covert the original 10 bovada HH files and then re-import into HM1. I asked the creator about it but he was unable to find a fix for it, it might be something to do with HM1?
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07-09-2015 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rakeme
What happens to me is I'll have say "10 files found 100 hands processed" in the Bovada Converter, but when I go to import into HM1 it will only import "10 files and roughly 88 hands". The only solution that works for me is to go re-covert the original 10 bovada HH files again and then re-import into HM1. I asked the creator about it but he was unable to find a fix for it, it might be something to do with HM1?
Must be because I've never missed a hand
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07-10-2015 , 01:58 AM
Does anyone find the 30 second timer per turn on cash games a little to long? You get a couple guys that tank as long as Tom Dwan you're getting 20-25 hands per hour
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07-10-2015 , 03:40 AM
I finally decided to play the tournament with the annoying pop-up at 2:30AM
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07-10-2015 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chazz Rienhold
Does anyone find the 30 second timer per turn on cash games a little to long? You get a couple guys that tank as long as Tom Dwan you're getting 20-25 hands per hour
I think it's needed for the time when you have to make tough decisions simultaneously on different tables. I think the poker site needs to track those guys that are doing it for every other hand and have some kind of penalty or something along that line.
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