Bovada client works, Ignition client doesn't.. did an Ignition fresh install, still don't work..

Works on ignition now too. Everyone should be good to go. I didn't have to redownload anything or clear cache, any of the typical bs they always tell you to do

Only site where series events are worse then normal schedule

Are all u guys winning consistently on ignition?

This is by far the weirdest site i've ever played on.

I was a solid winning reg on stars and full tilt back in the day. Sngs and mtts. I think my sharkscope rating for stars, where ive played far more than anywhere else, is 89.

After black friday, i played on different sites - i can't even remember them all - cake, merge, black chip, rpm, etc. As far as i know, Im up on every site i've ever played on.

When i transitioned to ignition, it took weeks or months to adjust. I found the play way different than any site I've played on before. The player pool tendencies are just different - I think more loose and splashy, which makes a massive difference in short stack games with a lot of push/fold.

In any case, while im up on ignition too, I haven't been able to win significantly in years. I've been playing very sporadically the last few years up until recently, but when i do play, an overwhelming number of sessions are break even or losing.

The strangest part of this, of course, is that im playing against by far the worst players ive ever played with. Often drooler-level.

The inability to turn a significant profit has gone on for a really long time. And I can't make sense of it.

I know there's collusion and bots. But what i observe at the tables regardless is really bad play by a lot, if not the majority, of players.

Obviously the level for all players has risen in the past 15 years, including the fish. Maybe I'm underestimating the extent to which this is true. But I consistently watch people stack off insanely light, make horrid all in bluffs, exhibit a complete lack of training/proper strategy, light money on fire via ICM suicide, etc.

Most of the players at most tables seem to fall into the fishy category.

On stars back in the day, i used to table select mid and high stakes SNGs, and if there were at least two big losers registered, I was in. The rest of the table could be all winning regs - but the two or three fish made it profitable.

On ignition, I feel like the majority of the sng/mtt player pool are similar to those big fish, or maybe breakeven players at best. The level of play just seems so low compared to even low/midstakes sngs on stars 15+ years ago.

I will add an asterisk to that - the ignition player pool is bad in a different way. They are more loose, splashy, wild, aggressive. And this type of bad in some ways makes the games that i play - short stack tournaments - harder. You get called more, you can't steal/shove as wide... in a lot of spots u have to play way tighter than equilibrium because the fish will call u on sng/triple up bubbles with 40% of hands instead of the 5% they're supposed to be calling with.

All that said, I'm consistently playing solid in fishy games with lots of bad play, and barely winning. Over a really long period of time. And I can't figure out why.

Maybe it's just some brutal variance, or perhaps there are bigger, more esoteric reasons im unaware of.

Or maybe there is more shadiness to this site than just the colluders and bots. TBH I don't think so, not to a significant degree anyway. But speculation runs rampant, with ignition's clearly lax security, apparent incompetence, lack of regulation, and well-documented incidents in recent years.

I suppose this argument can be largely put to bed if a lot of you are doing well, which I think is probably the case.

If anyone has any thoughts here, or wants to share their own experience, I'd love to hear it.

Bovada is the only site I have seen that often has worse players the higher the stakes. Maybe not at the nosebleeds like 10/20, but I am convinced it is easier to win at 2/5 than it is at .25/50NL..

Tilt is a profit killer. Being stubborn is a profit killer.

I profit consistently in terms of months and years (days and weeks is too short a time frame). I load up 4 cash tables and sit in my chair at home calm and Zen. This software missing basic features found and updated just about everywhere else doesn't bother me, I let it go. I don't stubbornly play three handed on an anonymous site. And since since I am sitting there playing and paying attention, I leave tables when two players seem to always be helping each other re-open the action when one of them has AAxx, etc. I don't tilt. I am not stubborn. Ignition has been just as profitable as any other site under those conditions for me.

Well, I figured out how to get around the browser poker access problem, and I will share. The bummer is that as long as some people can figure it out too, then Ignition may never realize they still have a problem, with fewer players on-site as a result. And I don't have the patience anymore to try to educate the non-help desk. Oh well - "Accept the things you cannot change".

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There are 2 access blocking points. The first is on initial entry to ignitioncasino.eu it says Welcome Back. I login, and it just loops, appearing to be doing nothing. But in fact it seems the log in has taken place. It's just that the navigation has not proceeded. So if I click on my account (upper right) I can get to that screen. Then click on Transactions. And from there to the Iggy home page (upper left).

The second is as follows. There are now 5 labels at the top. I click on POKER. Then I choose Play Now. I get an ABOUT IGNITION CASINO screen. This is an infinite loop. The secret move here is to click on Tournaments at the top. From there, choose just about any topic (e.g. Mystery Knockout). Toward the bottom of that article, click PLAY NOW. Bingo! You should now be sitting in the Poker Lobby.

The funny thing is that if you observe the "hover text" that shows up during the first unsuccessful method, and that which shows up right before bingo, they are identical.

Hope this helps someone, even if not everyone.

p.s. I am using FireFox

Anybody else getting constant disconnections lately? Impossible to play, lost few buy-ins already.

Very long time reg here. Hu sngs. I've posted here before. I was on bovada for 10 years and got banned right out of the blue last fall. Ignition, the same network, did the same after a few months. I did not break any TOS. Bovada accused me of breaking sportsbetting rules - I lost tons of money sportsbetting actually. Did nothing differently 2016-2024 than I did 2025. Ignition accused me of making "illegal chip transfers." Remember, I played hu sngs . . . there's no chip transfering that goes on at those tables ever because there's a buy in fee to get in and if you want to send $ to a friend it makes no sense to do it that way. Both were total bs. I asked support for specifics each time and they gave me some generic answer. What happened is they started purging players last fall. Either a) they installed some AI software that mistakenly flagged certain accounts or b) they wanted to get rid of winning players. I'm leaning towards b). I was able to get paid out though, and trust me if I really broke TOS they just keep your $. They know they'd get in a lot of trouble if they kept $ from players for this stuff. So it's like a casino, you can make money card counting and they'll pay you, but you eventually get kicked out.

I used a friend's account to play on ignition after I got banned. I got a few automated warnings for "illegal chip transfers" and just today they banned me from poker, although not the casino. I hadn't made a withdrawal in a while, but just did Friday and it feels a lot like that was what triggered it. Like I had made plenty of withdrawals as I've won consistently and the next they were gonna axe me. For context, I was on for 5 months November till now and averaged 8-10k a month depending on volume. During covid on bovada, I did about 250k April of 2020 to April of 2021. Made way more $, all hu sngs. Back then though, they had a large base and they didn't care about winning players as there was so much coming in.

The networks are in big trouble. They don't have the player base they used to. I don't think they have any idea what they're doing. There were a million hu regs/bots before the structure changes last fall, and afterwards they ALL went away. Except for one guy who I know wasn't a bot. Eventually he disappeared a few months ago. His account possibly got banned too. If it wasn't for me though, the hu games wouldn't fill at all hardly $50 and up. I was responsible for most of the traffic. You go even lower like $5 and $10 those games are almost empty all day too. Even the micros.

I have a question - but first, the reason for my question . . .

I play on the Ignition skin, and I HATE their cash games lobby, if you want to call it that. Want to know how many tables are running at each of the half dozen possible stakes? Tough bananas. It's a secret. Can't show you that. So you choose a stakes level at random and sit down. You are the only player at the table, with a message that you can wait here until they find an open seat for you at another table. Is there really another table running? Sorry, that's a secret. Can't show you that. We'd rather you stayed here until another unsuspecting player sits down, at which point you have to either play heads-up, or leave the table and start all over again. WTF ! Worst cash games lobby in the history of online poker. Oh, and if a game is winding down and it gets down to 2 players and one of you sits out, we IMMEDIATELY close the table - because we sure wouldn't want to keep the table open in case more players show up. No, that would make too much sense. WTF !

So, anyway, since I have no hope of ever seeing that get changed, my question is - Do any of the other skins have a better cash games lobby, or are they all the same? Thanks in advance.

It's an anonymous site. No screen names. You're in the dark on everything here. Basically no customer support. It's the most unprofessional large poker platform I've ever seen.

Here's what I can tell ya - traffic is bleeding BAD. I think there's a good chance poker is done by the start of 2028 here. I've played on this site forever, mainly sngs. If you registered in micros, you used to get filled up in 2 minutes. You'd be 3 tabling in ten minutes. Want to play at 8 in the morning? A little slower, but sure games will fill up and you'll probably be playing a couple different players within the hour. Mornings are just flat out dead now. Maybe you get one person an hour. Afternoons might be worse. The only somewhat reliable time frame is evenings. And after midnight it dries up fast too. I'd say 12-5 am central you'd reliably get action. Now it's really 12-2 am, with 2-3 being a wild care. 3-5 close to dead.

They've lost a ton of players. And that's why they ban people like me from poker. Their new plan is no regs lol. Doesn't work though. You need some regs to bring in action. If I took off 3 months from hu sngs, they'd see the amount of games running drop 80%. So really it's like why even bother offering the games? If you can't handle one guy winning at a decent clip who is responsible for a lot of action in a particular niche, what are you doing? They might as well get rid of all the sngs.

There were so many regs/bots that came in right after covid. You wouldn't believe how many hu regs there were. I'm talking you look at the $50 stakes, and you see 14 tables taken up at one time. I saw 18 and 19 tables at certain stakes I think a few times lol. I had to strategically look for small windows in the day to play. There were almost always 6-10 filled tables all across $20 and up. After last fall, almost every single reg at hu disappeared. I do think they tried to clean out bots, but they're using some sort of very crappy AI system potentially. All I know is I got flagged for doing the same thing I did the previous 10 years.

It would be nice to have someone else post on here who is the same boat who got flagged for likely winning too much. There was a guy who notoriously won 50-60k at cash vs the bots in 2024 and got banned from poker. They never used to do that though. If you played in the 2010s, I think you'd know that poker has tailed off. It's far less popular now. People have less disposable income to experiment with. Solvers everywhere. I mean I'm just telling ya I remember the poker boom and it was such a cool thing for a while. Young guys now want to be content creators on YT, gamble, etc. You're getting states moving out, and a player base that isn't being replenished by youngsters like it used to be. It's collapsing. People who disagree have no idea what it used to be like. Google poker site traffic and look at the graphs

Highly recommend looking elsewhere. Only reason I bother talking about bovada/ignition is it's been a reliable source of income for me for a very long time. But the site as a whole is a ticking time bomb

Ignition and hu sngs are the past.

Your join date says 2007. That doesn't mean you have been playing on some version of Bodog since then, but if you have been around long enough, there were once regular cash game lobbies...if I recall correctly. Poker is getting less and less popular, on any poker site. They removed the cash game lobbies here partly to hide just how few players there are. But I can go onto YouTube right now any streamer trying to stream any poker site has a hard time even finding several tables to stream that don't have a lot of empty seats besides streaming fast fold poker. some streamers in ring fenced areas almost never are streaming games without empty seats. some streamers go so far as to stream multiple limits just to get a few tables doing something like NLH25 tables mixed all the way up to NLH500 which isn't what normal people's stake ranges are. Your complaint about empty tables has not a damn thing to do with Ignition. Seriously. You are simply complaining about how Ignition decided to hide the major decline in pokers popularity over the last 15 years.

Haha


Thanks, I appreciate your thoughts.


Damn, there's that much potential edge in husngs? How many games were you playing per day?


I saw a video on that. That guy figured out the bots' patterns and how to exploit them. He said he thinks they banned him out of pure incompetence iirc. Of course some people speculate that the bots are in some way in-house.


I've heard the MTT and SNG traffic on WPT Gold is considerably more than ignitions. Haven't verified myself.

Thanks for your perspective about the probable reasons that Ignition's cash games lobby sucks. I guess I must have worded my post poorly. What I was attempting to say is that in my opinion their software functionality in this regard is by far the worst I have ever seen among past or present poker sites, and that I hate it. And accordingly, my question was and is whether any of this network's other skins have better cash games lobbies, or do they all work the same annoying way.

That is still my question. Thanks.

This might be oversimplified, but I would say a "skins" network model works with one company being the flagship and then allowing other companies to copy their software. So for the most part all of the copies of the software are the same and then each skin can decide of different rewards. Bovada and Ignition have different rewards stores. Another example is over the years I think Bovada has rewards for a royal and bad beat while at times Ignition has not, or it is the other way around. Going to a different network, most skins on the WPN network use to have the no rathole tables and then ACR (the flagship) made the other's turn that feature off. Think of it like the flagship having a menu that all the skin can pick from of games and features they can turn on or off. But basically, I expect the software to be mostly about the same on all skins, with a few exceptions, but a completely different lobby system as an on or off feature seem a bit much to hope for across a skin network.

Good points. Maybe I used a bad term ("skins"). My idea of a network was/is that the various sites in the network share a common player base, but other than that, have and control their own software. Semantics I guess. In any event, like I said, you make some very good points. I think it's probably been hashed enough now. Thanks again.

I was playing $50/100 buy ins at hu. Hours were evenings mainly 5pm central to 2/3 a.m., but on average I'd start around 7, finish around 2, and have an hour or two break in between often. Most nights were in the 5-6 hour range playing. Make $300 a day that's 9k. I had plenty of days where I'm in the profit $500-800. Then on occasion I'd have a day over 1k. Best was 1800 where I got really hot, couple others around 1500. So you have a few big days like that. Not too many losing days tbh. It's cyclical though.

I'm a very experienced player in the hu format, so even with the ridiculous blind structure I could beat it. Main thing with me is I'm not some guy who tried to use a systematic style of play, like always raising pre the same amount, a default C betting size, etc. I simply used tactics I knew maxed out profit margins depending on the situation. My main adv was always knowing a pretty effective counter to whatever style I was up against - granted sometimes it would take me a bit longer to figure it out than others but I'd get there. Most of the regs that flooded the site 2022-2025 were very robotic, system type players who would do a GTO type style with every player with fairly minimal variation. Me, on the other hand, would combine the GTO with the extreme exploitation tactics. If a guy is playing really loose and I got AA in the small blind, I might raise 5x right into him preflop. NOBODY else would do that - they'd raise a default amount. But if you think logically, if a guy just is calling almost anything why are you doing that guy a favor and letting him see a flop for 3x cheaper. Make the player prove he's smart enough to figure out what you're doing and adjust, even if what you're doing looks odd.

Are hu sngs done? Yes, essentially. Every American site but bovada/ignition got rid of the format pretty much. And bovada/ignition made the blind structure far more unfavorable - just because I can beat it doesn't mean it's worth playing for just about anyone else.

The last account I had that got banned - I deposited $200 once. Withdrew 9/10k a month for 5 months. Never had to redeposit. Only did hu. Got a few phony warnings for "chip transfers" and then banned me earlier this week. I did nothing illegal - just won too much and they didn't like it in all likelihood. It is possible they installed some flawed AI system to combat the bots/cheating and mine got flagged by mistake (I was on ignition a very long time ago when bovada temporarily removed their poker room - I won on ignition and they never tried to boot me this is a very recent thing).

For a guy who constantly complains that you did nothing wrong you seem awfully quick to break the site’s TOS.

$$$monayyy

why not ask your grandma to make an account?

You then spew gigantic bricks of psychobabble detailing all the times you broke the TOS. You’re a mess and need to take your medication more seriously.

When multitabling has anyone had a table just freeze when going all in and leaving your self .5bb and then it unfreezes a minute later and your sitting out folding?

Happened twice today!

Not like that, but the freezing/sitout happens quite often. Except for the terrible players, there's absolutely zero reason to play there. I still do though

ignition dot eu is working now FYI

Reg'd two tournies and both are unable to be played bc of a '404 Not Found (ngix)' error. It does this on desktop app, a web browser and mobile. Assume the two buy-ins are gone. Anyone had this same problem and know of a fix? Of course their casino games work tho. Convenient.

(resolved via this method

WINDOWS

1. Close the Poker client.

2. In the search field on the task bar, enter "%appdata%" and select that AppData file folder that pops up.

3. Locate the poker file ignitioncasino-eu-poker and delete it.

4. Reopen the Poker client and log back in."