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01-15-2016 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AJackson
I'm doing the population analysis and can confirm.

I tend to talk to myself as I work and I've found myself repeatedly saying, 'How the **** does he know that?' That being differences in board texture, optimal sizing, exploitative lines, etc. It took me years to figure out some of the same spots investing massive amounts of hours in database analysis.

I think it says a lot about Gordon that he's willing to spend the time and money doing intensive analysis of the program and to be sure every piece of the program works and figuring out what to add to the program.

The value of the program is Gordon's focus on what is important. There is massive amounts of information available to players, really too much information. An inexperienced (or even a moderately experienced) player doesn't know how to evaluate and prioritize all the available information. At first glance the program will seem simple but the simplicity is the genius. The program forces you to get your foundation right and gives you something to build on. The complexity comes later once your foundation is solid.

And most impressive he's doing this for microstakes players.
Thx Alan, appreciate your comment!
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01-15-2016 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
Short: With a separate bankroll, it's ok if you play them. We don't take the loss, nor the win.
Don't play too many of them tho!!!
i don't like tournament type poker (mtt, sit, spin etc.)
i've played spin for almost 2 month just to get some numbers to crunch, i've played 4000 spins 5€ - 10€ and ended up with a mere 100€ profit.

so right now i play just a couple of 10€ spin after the end of my cash game sessions hoping to get lucky.

i don't think that kind of volume can interfere with the program, but i wanted to hear your opinion
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01-15-2016 , 01:26 PM
well either way... here i am, just joined the club

waiting for the team to check my infos and deposit
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01-15-2016 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mala
i don't like tournament type poker (mtt, sit, spin etc.)
i've played spin for almost 2 month just to get some numbers to crunch, i've played 4000 spins 5€ - 10€ and ended up with a mere 100€ profit.

so right now i play just a couple of 10€ spin after the end of my cash game sessions hoping to get lucky.

i don't think that kind of volume can interfere with the program, but i wanted to hear your opinion
I don't think you should play them at all. Focussing on one thing is what makes people win.

You would be allowed tho inside the program, but i don't recommend it.
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01-15-2016 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mala
well either way... here i am, just joined the club

waiting for the team to check my infos and deposit
Welcome on board!!!
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01-15-2016 , 01:50 PM
Hey can someone check my info. I joined 2-3 days ago. on step 4 and its been 24 hrs since then. Support couldnt find my name or email. last name is phan
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01-15-2016 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
Hi Pismi,

everything listed in detail here: https://bestpokercoaching.zendesk.co...-it-look-like-

First of all,please tell me who you are (your name). You can send it via pm or email. Of course it will be kept confidential if you are an honest user.

Second, we publicly state that the security deposit (and every other product on our site) is non-refundable. It's also in the terms & conditions, which you agreed to when joining.
I know we look like the "bad guys", but it's not that simple.

You get access to so much value (more than you stated, further recordings etc), and we can only check if you accessed it or not (micro cfp). This means once you're in, we have to protect ourselves against fraud.

Like in every online business, there are a lot of fraud attempts. More than you might think.
Because of our great history we have a track record of winning about 90% of cases in "court" versus fraud/chargebacks etc. We fight and we win. I am told that "winning" 10% is normal and 30% win is considered great.
Scammers have usually a lot higher success rates, so they are shocked when we win.

In other words, people try to scam us, but they don't succeed. Then after they loose in "court", they email and lie to us, ask for refunds or partial refunds. When that doesn't happen, they "threaten" us to write bad things.
I've never given in to any blackmail in my life and will not do so in the future.

I'm not saying this is the case with you, Pimsi, but it certainly could be. So please clear up your name.
It's funny that you try to call me scammer. I'm trying to steal my own money? xD
As i said before i joined the micro course but for real i havent used nothing except the nobs book. Looked this, i asked for a refund of the money after removed the part i used. It doesn't seems a strange thing cause i'm not stopping for stupid reason and you aren't losing nothing!
Your support stopped to answer me... my request id is 2605
Greetings
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01-15-2016 , 04:29 PM
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* Nobody ever goes broke. We use good BR management and simply move down should you run bad/play bad etc. It's literally impossible to go broke unless you can't beat the lowest level online. And if that were the case, then poker literally isn't for you (altho i have never seen this happen!)...so this is purely theoretical
Please give us a clear answer what happens if a student has no bankroll anymore because he lost it all. As you stated you even accept students with very tiny bankrolls like $50 for the 6max micro program and its very possible to loose such an amount at nl2 for a very bad player. Do you refund the 500€ if a player gets broke and he can´t afford to spend any money on a new bankroll? Do you keep the 500€ in this case even if the student can´t play any poker anymore?

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01-15-2016 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pismi
It's funny that you try to call me scammer. I'm trying to steal my own money? xD
As i said before i joined the micro course but for real i havent used nothing except the nobs book. Looked this, i asked for a refund of the money after removed the part i used. It doesn't seems a strange thing cause i'm not stopping for stupid reason and you aren't losing nothing!
Your support stopped to answer me... my request id is 2605
Greetings
Hi,
so an anonymous account pops up on 2p2 without history after we have upset some scammers, my first instinct is that you could be one, not that you are one. (potrebbe essere!).

Your tone is also inappropriate considering that you have watched quite a lot of stuff (i got some details now), got access and bought a product that clearly states "no refund" and call the biggest, most established and successful personal coaching business in the world "robbers".

You definitely don't "deserve" anything, but i teach all students that it's not about what i want or they want. In poker it's about what is profitable.
And in business and handling your case, it's about what is the ethically right thing to do. My emotions will come second.

Give this 24hours. You'll get an answer + in public here.

When there is any doubt, i speak Italian. You can email me gordon@bestpokercoaching.com
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01-15-2016 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Troubley
Please give us a clear answer what happens if a student has no bankroll anymore because he lost it all. As you stated you even accept students with very tiny bankrolls like $50 for the 6max micro program and its very possible to loose such an amount at nl2 for a very bad player. Do you refund the 500€ if a player gets broke and he can´t afford to spend any money on a new bankroll? Do you keep the 500€ in this case even if the student can´t play any poker anymore?
Let me tell you again, you CAN'T go broke mathematically unless you play limits that you should not be playing. The only way for you to go broke is if you cannot beat NL2.
And if you can't beat NL2 after trying very hard (not 1month, but perhaps 2month), then you should not be playing poker.

So if you really loose all your money at NL2, then i will personally give you another $30 to try again.

In other words, the only problem is if the student does not follow the bankroll management we give. Think through it, you'll see why it's impossible to go broke.
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01-15-2016 , 05:31 PM
You still haven´t answered the question. What happens if a student can´t beat nl2. Does he get a refund after trying some time or is the 500€ deposit gone?
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01-15-2016 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Troubley
You still haven´t answered the question. What happens if a student can´t beat nl2. Does he get a refund after trying some time or is the 500€ deposit gone?
If I understood correctly, the 500€ you will not see again until you beat the program. If you fail the program they keep the 500€ as a payment for the time.
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01-15-2016 , 07:53 PM
dont think somebody who isnt able to beat 2nl can get 500$ together in the first place, so if you did get the 500 together I wouldnt worry too much about not being able to beat 2nl (+after the help they give you) haha
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01-15-2016 , 10:46 PM
how can u speak so many languages?
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01-16-2016 , 04:07 AM
@Jakodns: You are correct. No refunds.

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Originally Posted by Chilisaus
dont think somebody who isnt able to beat 2nl can get 500$ together in the first place, so if you did get the 500 together I wouldnt worry too much about not being able to beat 2nl (+after the help they give you) haha
Thx Chilisaus. I was worried nobody here has any common sense left

I'd like to return to more inspirational questions + topics
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01-16-2016 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerInDaButt
how can u speak so many languages?
I travelled for 8years around the world and always loved languages. It's not that hard, especially if you are interested or forced to learn (i.e girl u meet speaks no english).
There are great audio programs (pimsleur, michel thomas). The rest you pick up learning by doing aka speaking to people. You should rarely use a grammar book.
I'm passionate about this, so if you have more questions, i can help.

I don't speak all languages perfectly, but always aim to get to a conversational level, enough to understand and be understood.
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01-16-2016 , 07:07 AM
How many languages do you speak? Do you still study languages?
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01-16-2016 , 10:09 AM
Hello!

Just stopped by to give my 2 cents about BPC!

For all those people who think this program is a scam and bull**** or watever:
At first i was sceptical and bit sad when i understand we dont get 1 on 1 coachings on the lowest entry level (beginners) BUT after attending group coachings, using materials and doing everything Gordon suggests us to do, i reallized its MORE than enough to get good results. Its actually HUGE amount of information and recources for us available and Gordon goes into detail for specific spots and explains everything, even the dumb **** people do not get. If some one here is not succeeding he can only blame himself for not investing enough time and effort into this. And im actually one of those people who still struggles alot, but i know that its not the program holding me back - its me, I AM ****ING LAZY!

As long as u DO want to work hard and DO NOT expect everything to be done for you, this is awesome program be be part of. AND U DO NOT PAY ANYTHING UP FRONT, that security money is just to motivate us not to quit when we face the first struggle.

Best wishes to BPC members and ofc Gordon!


<c> vuciitis / vislabaakaa
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01-16-2016 , 10:17 AM
There seems to be some negative energy here from what I've read the last couple pages. I joined this CFP a few weeks ago, and I am 100% glad I did. My game has improved, and my mindset has improved.

I read something about someone not getting the coaching that he believed he was promised. The coaching we get right now is more than adequate for the level we are at. I am not the least bit disappointed in any of that right now, and I believe Gordon is doing a great job guiding us. He answers all questions we ask. He reminds me of Gordon Ramsay at times (well, probably most of the time ), but not in a negative way.

Anyway, just wanted to put my thoughts out there. Anyone having any doubts about this program, don't!
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01-16-2016 , 10:22 AM
i'm stuck at step 1...

i'm italian so i'm not allowed to play on any of the poker rooms you've listed on your site.
since you already have italian students i think that's not a problem (you should know we are forced to only play .it)

then you ask me to choose the rakeback provider, but i have no idea what are we talking about.
does it negotiate rakeback for me?
can they do that on stars.it ?
do i have to pay for them to try?

what's the difference between the two option you give us?
i should take my decision based on... ?

i wanted to write this at the cfp support, but the link on the page just keep refreshing the page itself, without giving me a form to contact you.

ty
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01-16-2016 , 10:54 AM
I was reading some of ur comments guys and its so worrying how ppl react when u try to give them a chance because they are disappointed in life and their defense mechanism starts to neglect everything that sounds good before even trying. Guys don't generalize anything. I will try to give u insiders look in to this program.

Personally I would give a lot more than 500euro to narrow the group to most committed players. If u could go on to college or high school and study all those years and pay so much money for tuition just to find a job in which u will sit in office 8 hours a day and get 2000$ per month, than u can study poker for one year, choose your working hours and earn 10 000$ per month and the sky is limit.
CFP is great program and sometimes I hate to see more people coming in because I dont want more people to know everything that we are thought there, but at the end of the day I think of ppl who dont believe in this program and how I believe that their money will become my one day.
Gordon is great guy, he has approach in which he gets a lot of authority and thats the fastest and safest way to succes, trust me on that. He will curse at u if u dont listen and he will give u a compliment when u deserve it. We have a lot of materials to study from and sometimes u think there is not end of it but its all well organised and u cant get lost. If u have any trouble hands or questions u can ask in live coachings wich are held every other day and sometimes every other day is too much. Every hand gets answered in those coachings, the guy has some much energy, sometimes it seems like he cares more than we do about our selfs, its so contagious. I mean come on guys the only way he will profit is if u profit,isnt that a great deal? The guy has millions and he doesnt care about ur 500$, its for ur own protection of not quitting and to decimate all those ppl who are not committed and are just contaminating CFPs healthy environment of improving. U pay 500$ to enter the club of ambitious poker players who play 8h a day and to get up to date info about poker strategys. Do I have much to say? I hope there wont be 1000 new players coming after this but I just couldn't resist myself not to write something, well im off because time is money!
GL

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01-16-2016 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mala
i'm stuck at step 1...

i'm italian so i'm not allowed to play on any of the poker rooms you've listed on your site.
since you already have italian students i think that's not a problem (you should know we are forced to only play .it)

then you ask me to choose the rakeback provider, but i have no idea what are we talking about.
does it negotiate rakeback for me?
can they do that on stars.it ?
do i have to pay for them to try?

what's the difference between the two option you give us?
i should take my decision based on... ?

i wanted to write this at the cfp support, but the link on the page just keep refreshing the page itself, without giving me a form to contact you.

ty
You can skip the part about registering with our affiliate partner since you're from Italy. Just play on stars.it or ipoker.it skin.

Easier for you
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01-16-2016 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
How many languages do you speak? Do you still study languages?
7-8, depending if latin and ancient greek count . I don't study that much these days, but plan to again. Will pick up on Italian again since i live here now.
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01-16-2016 , 12:14 PM
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You can skip the part about registering with our affiliate partner since you're from Italy. Just play on stars.it or ipoker.it skin.

Easier for you
the button to continue is disabled until i pick one of them, and even if i choose randomly it ask me the ID in order to procede.
how can i skip this step?


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Will pick up on Italian again since i live here now.
where do you live in italy?
btw if you need help with italian just ask
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01-16-2016 , 03:06 PM
@Mala: email support@bestpokercoaching.com . In this case just choose one of them and don't worry.

Currently my center is Milano, but traveling a lot to Suizera and Austria as well. Which region are you from?
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