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11-10-2015 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stadilainen
One last thing before joining, what is the situation with rakeback? Does that count in to the goal amount?
Yes it does. Profit is profit and at BPC we don't care if you make 30k/month from RB or without . It's important that you MAKE it !
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11-11-2015 , 08:23 AM
Breaking News:

Piotr "Goodfake" has finished the CFP HU program successfully.

Read about it here with Graphs, links etc:
http://www.bestpokercoaching.com/pio...-60k-in-style/

More details to follow.

Cliffs:

* Didn't make a lot of money before CFP, but made 2-3k/month rather quickly
* Over the first 8months he "only" averaged 2-3k/month but then it made CLICK

It is the "aha" moment that people outside of CFP simply do NOT understand. It's the reason why it can be so fatal to quit, because you're just about to hit it big time...

Then came Dubrovnik, our BPC seminar + meet-up. He DID the changes he needed to make. There were 7 chapters in the seminar and one of them completely changed his life.

* He went on to make 11k, then repeated 11k and then last month broke the CFP HU record with 14,5k Euro profits

* He made like 66% of profits in 20% of the time. This just shows what happens if you do not ever give up. If you keep going, going and going, you iwll do it.


He's an amazing person and once again shows what you can achieve in a relatively short time.
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11-11-2015 , 12:11 PM
"Please be patient!

Soon the CFP manager will create your personalized contract and send it to your email address!"

This has took about 4 hours now. How long does this usually take?

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11-11-2015 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stadilainen
"Please be patient!

Soon the CFP manager will create your personalized contract and send it to your email address!"

This has took about 4 hours now. How long does this usually take?
Yes, please be patient but it should actually be done by now.

Our support is gone during noon to take care of some private business. We're actually measuring avg support time and our goal is to bring it down to 1hour.

Aka, whenever you contact us about anything, you will be helped within one hour. That's the near-term (2-3months) goal.

Reality now is the 4hour average wait. We're preparing to hire more people, but in the meanwhile, pls accept bad variance in waiting and assume good things.

We're gonna be just as patient with you when we see your first poker hands and database report
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11-11-2015 , 11:22 PM
Hello Gordon,
I am really interested in this program as I really want to make poker a career. Currently I have a low paying job that I can not stand going to everyday. I only recent begun to take poker serious I am just not very good. I am trying to figure where to start in terms of what to study but I have been putting it off because I don't want to dive into something that is too complex for my skill level. That's why this program seems enticing too me. Is it a problem that I am from the US? Can this program be used on ACR? Please let me know I want to start making money with poker and quit my job! Thank you
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11-12-2015 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearzilla
Hello Gordon,
I am really interested in this program as I really want to make poker a career. Currently I have a low paying job that I can not stand going to everyday. I only recent begun to take poker serious I am just not very good. I am trying to figure where to start in terms of what to study but I have been putting it off because I don't want to dive into something that is too complex for my skill level. That's why this program seems enticing too me. Is it a problem that I am from the US? Can this program be used on ACR? Please let me know I want to start making money with poker and quit my job! Thank you
Hi Pearzilla,

it's not a problem that you're from the US and you can play on ACR or other US facing sites.
If you are willing to invest time+energy, you will make it.

-Gordon
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11-12-2015 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
Hi Pearzilla,

it's not a problem that you're from the US and you can play on ACR or other US facing sites.
If you are willing to invest time+energy, you will make it.

-Gordon
That is great too hear! I am definitely willing to do whatever it takes. I do not want to continue living this low income lifestyle.

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11-12-2015 , 04:23 PM
Pearzilla,

then i expect you on board. Yesterday was the best day, today the 2nd best!
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11-12-2015 , 04:34 PM
I am most definitely going to join. Need to get the funds together then I will be ready.

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11-12-2015 , 07:08 PM
I only play live poker cause im in the us. Is there a program for me?
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11-13-2015 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by pokered71
I only play live poker cause im in the us. Is there a program for me?
Not for live poker. I strongly recommend you to play online if you are serious about becoming a better player.
When i say that, do it at least for training purposes if your real passion is live poker.

It has to do with math, sample sizes and variance. At live poker you have a VERY hard time knowing if you are a winning player. Even if you are winning for a year, there is a GOOD chance that you are actually NOT a winning player.

I know it sounds crazy, if you want i can go deeper into the math. But in short:

Online is the best way to practise and train new skills. Once you go back to live poker, you will see how bad everybody is

Either way, atm we only have online training programs!
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11-13-2015 , 07:46 AM
Hello Gordon,

I am contemplating joining the CFP. A couple questions. I apologize if you have answered any of them before, I have not read all 126 pages of the thread.

1. Would one have to procure and use PT/HEM? If so, are the costs of such tools included in the bankroll requirements?
2. I have no preference as to which game to play. So which game do you think is the easiest to make money in? I can not seem to decide between NLH/PLO and 6max/HU.
3. Is it possible to do everything in USD instead of euros?
4. I am currently unemployed, with lots of time to invest. But if/when I get a job, how would we proceed? Would it be okay to just slow everything down and play only weekends?
5. Me and my wife sometimes play a couple tournaments together online. Would that still be possible outside the program or at all? It would be less than optimal if I were to make a tournament score, pay 50% and not receive any coaching as a result of a tournament win.

Also I feel a bit weird about transferring a 500 euro deposit without ever communicating with a representative first. In a way I guess this exchange would help in that regard.

Thanks in advance for your time and answers!
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11-13-2015 , 08:09 AM
Hello Anonen,

1) Yes, its your property so you buy it (HM or Poker tracker). It's a couple of bucks, not a big deal!
There is not a lot of other stuff to buy that is not easily affordable. For the NL HU and 6max program, there is actually nothing else you need to buy. We create a lot of software on our own, which u will get for free. We invest actually Euro 10k+ every single month into the improvement. You get the benefit for free.

2) Depends on your bankroll, but based on what you write i assume NL 6max will suit you best

3) Depends which sites you play, we encourage members to have Euro and USD accounts. Settlement with BPC is done in Euros.

4) Not a problem. You improve at your own pace, our programs are step-by-step, so it is in your hands how fast etc you want to finish

5) You can do this outside, but don't mess up the accounting.


About the security deposit (you get it back on completing the program!):

You see all the evidence of success stories in the first post (and there are a lot more) and can ask us any question here or talk to our support.

You're talking to the founder in person right now...does Jeff Bezos answer when you buy on Amazon? ))

Best wishes and if you have any question, ask here, contact our support or check out our detailed FAQs (https://bestpokercoaching.zendesk.com)
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11-14-2015 , 02:55 AM
I would like to practice and train new skills and see how bad everybody is at live poker.
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11-14-2015 , 05:06 AM
Hi Gordon,

Few difficult questions here:

1. Do you have any successful American finishers?

2. I can play almost 300 flh hands/hr on bovada. At minimum I will make 2k/mo but sometimes 8 k or so. I can not give up my only 4 bow tables for training is what I'm saying.

3. To add additional PLO hands I would have to go to winning poker, seals, nj graveyard sites, and maybe Chico? At best there is a few PLO games running. I know your non-us players play a huge volume of hands like 100k in 3 weeks and I understand that path to the bottom line. But Us players do not have that access/luxury. Hell, if I had the availability to play 600-700/hn/hr id make a mint! Gosh id be comfortable for sure and no reason to contact you. How can you possibly increase the volume of a player living in the states?

People bitch about the recent ps changes and I'm like ,' try to win without any rewards which is what I do and have done since 2011'

American players get NO benefits/rb, you just have to win.

this is not an attack whatsoever, I am just curious

best wishes
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11-14-2015 , 05:17 AM
Hi Letigra,

1) Imachampion is American, from broke to $100k in 9 months. However, he was not living in the US during the program. We have just recently allowed US facing players into the program so no data available in this regard

2) Nobody said you have to give that up

3) I don't see any question here. If games run on lower volume than that's how it is. I don't know the exact numbers, but of course there is a point where moving to Mexico,CA or another country is an option. If that's not an option, we do have to work with what we have.
Perhaps the lower volume can be made up with higher quality of play from your side. Either way, we're all about becoming the best we can be under the circumstances we're in.
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11-14-2015 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pokered71
I would like to practice and train new skills and see how bad everybody is at live poker.
That's great. Play online, play the lowest limits. Depending on your comittment, join our CFP or buy a course first!
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11-14-2015 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
Hi Letigra,

1) Imachampion is American, from broke to $100k in 9 months. However, he was not living in the US during the program. We have just recently allowed US facing players into the program so no data available in this regard

2) Nobody said you have to give that up

3) I don't see any question here. If games run on lower volume than that's how it is. I don't know the exact numbers, but of course there is a point where moving to Mexico,CA or another country is an option. If that's not an option, we do have to work with what we have.
Perhaps the lower volume can be made up with higher quality of play from your side. Either way, we're all about becoming the best we can be under the circumstances we're in.
damn ur quick!

I just meant that I read peoples blogs on your site and they talk about 100k hands in a few weeks. plo is such as slow game compared to flh ..everyone is thinking like what are you thinking about? So i could maybe play 100-200 h/hr at best plo in the states.

If imachampion is an american with access to pokerstars that doesnt count as an american poker player.

best wishes.
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11-14-2015 , 06:43 AM
What is important at the end of the day is that YOU make more and a LOT more money than before.

The how and the IF's, the coulds and the shoulds let's leave that to the theoreticians and intellectuals of poker. We're all about action, fighting and most importantly, RESULTS!
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11-15-2015 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
What is important at the end of the day is that YOU make more and a LOT more money than before.

The how and the IF's, the coulds and the shoulds let's leave that to the theoreticians and intellectuals of poker. We're all about action, fighting and most importantly, RESULTS!
well i don't worry about them and am certainly a fighter.

a big part of your program is volume because it guarantees results. volume is easy outside the states. there is a poster like 3 pages up who logs 30k hand per week micros doing well.

well obviously with that volume he will fare fine. In america he will fail for sure. It's not about IFS and COULDS and SHOULDS but that player will fail for sure in america due to lack of volume.

dosnt matter if you're the best coach in the world; without volume you lose.

and yes i could move to mexico i guess/

being an american does not make me a bad person; it is just a lot tougher to make it as a poker player.

good luck sir
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11-15-2015 , 03:22 AM
edit: I know you don't think americans are bad people.

I just understand the american poker landscape very well. maybe even more that you.

there are limitations and the limitations are reality.
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11-15-2015 , 10:54 PM
Hi I am interested in these services but I am just wondering what is the longest someone has taken to complete the program? If I am playing 6max 10NL, I would have to stay with the program until I make 60k right? Given a modest winrate of 5bb/100 that would take over a year to complete considering I play 10k hands a week. So with that being said, I am assuming you move up in stakes with time too, and probably would need to put in more than 10k hands a week to keep up with everything which I am fine with. Also the highest stakes you guys coach up to? I would just like to know the structure of when you move up stakes and how long would the coaching be at a certain stakes for.
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11-16-2015 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Zaki
Hi I am interested in these services but I am just wondering what is the longest someone has taken to complete the program? If I am playing 6max 10NL, I would have to stay with the program until I make 60k right? Given a modest winrate of 5bb/100 that would take over a year to complete considering I play 10k hands a week. So with that being said, I am assuming you move up in stakes with time too, and probably would need to put in more than 10k hands a week to keep up with everything which I am fine with. Also the highest stakes you guys coach up to? I would just like to know the structure of when you move up stakes and how long would the coaching be at a certain stakes for.
Hi Zaki,
10k hands a week is definitely not the way to get to the 60k fast . However, we have a 10k program for those who are not ready (yet) to commit for the full program.
YOU decide how long things will take as you can procede on your own pace. Coaching is then given depending on how fast you procede. Everybody in the program knows that - if anything - they get more coaching than they handle. So this should be the last of your worries, read our article in the FAQ's as well where we give an outline over the whole course.
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11-16-2015 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
Hi Zaki,
10k hands a week is definitely not the way to get to the 60k fast . However, we have a 10k program for those who are not ready (yet) to commit for the full program.
YOU decide how long things will take as you can procede on your own pace. Coaching is then given depending on how fast you procede. Everybody in the program knows that - if anything - they get more coaching than they handle. So this should be the last of your worries, read our article in the FAQ's as well where we give an outline over the whole course.
So how many hands would I need to play in order to move up in stakes quickly and be able to meet the 60k deadline within a year? How fast would I move up in stakes as well? I am very very motivated and willing to do this, I just want to plan it out first so I know what to expect and mentally prepare myself. Also I tried reading the FAQ's page on bestpokercoaching.com but it was in polish which I do not understand unfortunately
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11-16-2015 , 04:54 AM
Polish, really?! . That's new, just for fun if you don't mind sending a screenshot. Perhaps some old page that didn't get deleted?!

Anyways, here you have the FAQ: https://bestpokercoaching.zendesk.co...-it-look-like-

You can find this about different programs as well.
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