I completely agree its fair to ask, its just no one in their right mind would leave their job, their family, their gf or their country just to be put to the front of the line for a fricking online poker coaching for profits deal. This kind of person would already be living abroad and grinding anyway.

Having a family/job can make it harder, but it can also give you a stronger purpose and motivation.


1) In our 6max group the guy who plays (by a big distance!!!) the most hands is a professional actor + has a family. I suggested him to quit his job tho... now he makes enough money anyways...


2) This guy with the graph and post below is a family guy + full time job and he put (and still puts) in more hours than many of the single guys in their twenties.
He was losing player HU and had to make 100k EURO profits (back then euro was stronger!!!) and most of the cynics here would be outrageous to see the deal he had (aka, outrageous how much he had to pay...). He'd prolly still say it's the best investment he has done in his life...


Having that said, i'd more likely put my money on a single young guy everything equal. The fastest and biggest winners were still younger guys. But i think 99,9% of readers here would instantly switch with 1) or 2)

Everybody has reasons why they can or can't. Nobody has an excuse.

I also looked into the Chris situation...i double/triple make sure we will rock here. The one lil thing i like about critics is that they find the hair in the soup or the needle in the hey... and then i will fix it!

QUOTE: I am not part of the BPC team, but i've have the opportunity to work with most successful examples that have made it big who are in the team today (Goran/Pavel)

I can quote myself as the perfect example. Back in 2013, both of them were playing the same limit as me NL50 cents to NL100.

Fast forward to mid 2015, i am still at the SAME LIMIT, and see how far they went now.

It's not about having the right mind, it's about having the committment and how much you want it.

No its not at all, people struggle to leave their familys/life and work abroad for an actuall fixed income. Its not called commitment when you do the same on the off chance you get accepted into an online poker programme on the off chance you actually suceed.
How are you supposed to pay to live while you wait for you chance into the programme? what about the first few months when potential earnings are non existent because you have to grind a set ammount of hands at a low stake, what about if you get accepted and dont make yourself money because your learning. Its a fairytale.

I lived the fairy tale and I'm now on my 3rd year as a pro. Gordon teaches the players how to make money; thats it. The way he see's poker is whoever makes the most money is regarded as the best player and I agree.

I get the hate; and I myself hated him for some time as I had different expectations. But he changed my life I was broke in Cambodia in need of some help trying to make it out in poker. He changed multiple lives and turned multiple people into winning players. Without him I'd be a MTT grinder still probably crying to the mercy of variance.

I'd be lying if I said he was the best poker player I've ever met (I've gotten coached by 4 players who play up to 10KNL who play on a day to day basis) but he's the best coach I've met, he's a great guy and a great mentor of mine. I come to him all the time for advice and points of views on life, the thing is he knows what he's talking about.

If you don't like him and you aren't interested in buying anything then don't. Quit hating man spending your time bashing him and get on your own grind.

Yeh i wont lie ive only read the first line of your post because of course anything is possible it doesn't mean its not stupid or a massive risk. Congratulations to you i actually followed some of your progress near the end, but my previous post is still 100% valid. If you leave the US to then sit in a hotel or whatever waiting to be accepted to the programme earning no money for months then your an idiot. For an example look at kp hes only month 7 now if he was in this sitation lets say he waiting 2 months to get accepted and lets not foget there would be a chance of not being accepted thats 9 months with zero income so far in a foreign country away from your family and friends and life. This would only be possible with a large sum of money to support him while hes making no income for all that time.
Now i always laugh at the clueless people who judge you because you play poker, when you tell them youve win x ammount and they ask well how much do you lose. Its funny, but even for me this sitation is just mind boggling in the real world, its not commitment its serious stupidity/desperation.

Eu.Era, i gotta be frank and kindly ask you to move on and get out of this thread.
Previous posters have been more polite, but i have no more patience with people like you. You have no interest in CFP, my product or anything. You just have nothing else to do and so u post your jealousy here.

You're a loser and a broke guy and have no room giving advice to anybody about anything - at least not in my thread. What have you achieved that gives you the competence to spit your garbage around?

How many people email you each day about how much you have helped them? We both know the answer. So save your face while you can.

Take the great opportunity given to you in this life and do something with it. You only live once and shud u ever have children, do u rly wanna deny them a nice childhood bc Daddy was busy trolling the most successful poker coaching team the world will have ever seen?

To show u how ridic u are...

I have shown graphs, daily updates, transparent reviews of broke, naiv, non-geniuses... microplayers... lazy fckerss... making 100k !!!! They ALL MADE IT. You know about them and i'll gladly post the graphs and videos again...

We run the CFP program transparently. Our success rate is insanely good. What do losers like Eu.Era do?

=> One guy who has a very well paid job (aka does not need poker) in the UK + family dad and did not crush for a few months. Well done detective!
How does Eu.Era know?

=> Because we are transparent and post about the good and the bad days. We are open and hold ourselves accountable to everybody including **** like Eu.Era

(we did the same with Hansthegreat when he was breakeven for 100k hands. That story ended with him making 30k/month mostly small stakes... so much about that!. Eu.Era btw thinks - and i can quote - that this is only because Hans has/had a great RB deal... yeah, just get a RB deal and make 30k!!!!. That's how delusional he is, i wonder why he is still broke)

Let's move further.

You know what i did after i found out about KP not winning as much as our standards?

I called the coach and asked him WTF is going on!!! I told him i will kick his ass, beat his mom and eat his children if the student wont start winning (bc KP is actually not only a real british gentleman but also a hard worker!). Now KP would say it is his own fault, but my take is that we are responsible for everything. Everybody will win. That's how i deal with ****.

I know i have a big mouth/ego. Rather be a rich a$$shole than a poor fckr.
It's my way of keeping high standards because if everybody hates you, failure is not an option.

What happened then:

Coach manned up, student did what he should do.

KP just had his best week, 3k roll, decent profit. That's what we do.

Video proof:



It's still toilet-paper money, but a first step.


What i guarantee is that every living soul who starts my program will become better than they ever thought they could be - if you do what we ask you to do.

You only live once, so don't use excuses to not become the best you can be!!!

Lol Gordon seriously your delusional mate, i am jelous your right, im jelous a select few of your students made it big and are making a lot of money in a way i think i would enjoy. I'm not however spiteful which i think is the word your looking for. I'm a loser and im broke? I'm sorry but your don't know me, you always do this when someone challenges you, you pretend to go with it for a while (its actually your ego thinking you can convince that person into your way of thinking) then when it's not happening you start with the personal attacks. From what i no of you your a degenerate who made money at poker when my half blind grandma could of and you where i a big enough bull****ter to become successful at selling training videos that are terrible and ridiculously priced. I'm also not broke, im a long term losing poker player and am currently struggling at 25nl, but i am improving. I earn 40k a year which in the UK at 25 is not bad at all for a normal income.

Regarding Hans because i followed his progress from the start, i never said its because of a great rakeback deal, frankly he plays against a softer field than average (pokerstars) and does indeed have a great rakeback deal, but i stated many times i think he suceeded more because he had great tallent and put in a lot of effort, i will give you props for that but only because your a big enough douche to not take any bs and keep people working at their full potential or close to.

I am pretty certain Gordon you couldn't beat 25nl on stars over 100k hands, your so out of touch with todays games its not even funny, in fact i suggest you do it as a challenge and let 2+2 members prop bet on it if your so confident.

I would just like to state i didn't say anything bad to you or your programme i just voiced an opinion about a ridiculous scenario (that 1 in 10.000 poker players would go through with) that imo is extremely valid and you began to personally attack me rather than just say ok thats your very valid opinion but i disagree. Also i see no proof apart from a graph that isnt linked to any database, and all i see is winning over less than 5k hands, no credible coach would even talk about winnings over a lol sample size.

I do actually apologise for derealing your thread at this point but im not having some arragent stranger pretend to know me and talk about like its fact to try and bring down my opinion.
Lastly i would like to state i have actually backed gordon up and shared his view many times in this thread and the one time i have a different opinion than him he starts to attack, funny since he is so opinionated himself and always says things how he sees it yet when i or other people do it he gets upset.

anyone else unable to see their bought courses? i noticed the BPC website recently changed to a new look. I dont see a "my courses" section anymore and I can't find it anywhere. I could still access my courses through clicking my website history on my browser, but I cant access them just by going to the website.

Sorry for the trouble. My fault.

What I should have done is send out an email and announce this and present the steps in an organized way.

Long story short:

- Our website had some big technical weakness/issue
- We revamped many things, cleaned up and I wanted to act fast and get it done. My developer team suggest to do it in a slower way. My experience with such things is that if you aim slow, it will take forever
- Once we did this, i wanted to fix some issues we had the whole time (2 different log-ins)

Good part:

- ONE LOGIN for forum + courses. I'm sure a lot of you (myself included lol) were annoyed on how complicated this was
- Cleaner look (will be improved further)
- New course section. We improve the way courses will be presented. We can now include homeworks/quizzes and all sorts of things in an integrated way. In other words the learning experience will improve

Bad part:

- We exported and saved records of our old course system with all the data. We ask you to email us with a) your forum email b) your old "course" email c) courses you have bought . We then compare the data and add the courses to your forum account.

- We will likely give all people a chance to fill out a form, but you can also send an email

- I think we deserve some laughter because we literally have to import many things manually. The lesson i have learnt is something i actually teach in poker (but didn't apply myself in bznz)

=> Do it right the first time
=> No short term solutions to long term problems


Sorry again for the inconvenience. We will make up for it with a better experience that you will have on the site!

- Gordon

Updates:

* New version of site more or less stable

* Be prepared for some kick-ass updates (especially if u are in the CFP program)


Sry again for inconveniences caused. Stuff like that is a humbling experience for myself.

Then you better double check just about everything else you're "pretty certain" of. Because your statement is, sadly, little more than just a randomly spat out accusation that is literally based on 0 evidence. What I consider exceptionally weird is that it's outrageously obvious that your allegation just cannot survive any reasonable criticism. Not only don't you have any facts whatsoever to back that claim, but there's also beyond countless testimonies in all sorts of formats that prove completely the opposite and that credibly represent Gordon's ability not to just simply crush the games, but literally transform lives.

But you're free to believe what you want, for as long as you stay in NL25 and don't join BPC, there will be even more money left for me and my CFP colleagues to liberate everybody else from

PS.

Before joining CFP my highest winning day was roughly 1.6k USD. It was a record I could not beat for more than a year with serious trying, dedicating 12 hours a day to poker just about every day.

I joined CFP 1.5 months ago, and this month I broke that record twice for 2.2k in the first time, and 3.2k shortly after. The very next day after making those 3.2k I made 2.5k more.

I managed to make more in two days than I ever did in one month:

NL100 + NL200



Which also makes it my record month. Not sure yet because of rakeback, but my total profits should be somewhere around the 10k mark. I would dare to make the case that it compares quite well to my pre-CFP record month of 5.4k.

Pretty good, taking into account the fact that I got coached by someone who would get crushed by the sick 2015 NL25 line-up, don't you think?

Look this up. It's all publicly documented on blogs.

I paid for the No BS 6 max series on the best poker coaching website yesterday through paypal. I got an email confirmation saying that I paid. But I haven't received any product or log in details. How do I access the series??

Gordan didn't reply to my last post so i was going to drop it. I think of all gordons students are great players including you, because he selects you all so meticulously, i give him no credit for any of his students achievements apart from bringing out their potential. I see no proof gordon could beat 25nl on stars in current games, the only proof is actually putting in a sample there. Congratulations on your record month.

But of course he cannot just turn everybody into a crusher because at the end of the day a lot still depends on how hard the student works himself. You can try and teach a lazy degenerate anything you want at the highest teaching quality possible and you're still going to repeatedly hit a wall just simply because he does not work at all or cannot follow the simplest of instructions. To expect a poker coach to turn everybody into a genius regardless of his motivation, ambitions, dedication, and initial intellectual capability is just beyond unrealistic. Yes, that also implies that not everybody improves at the same speed and some do end up not improving that much at all, but do you seriously think that these factors don't play a role the same way when trying to teach anything else to other people?

Why waste real money and, more importantly, time on people that are not willing to go the extra mile required for noticeable success? BPC is no charity either and it only makes sense to reach out to the ones that demonstrate that they are likely to be a mutually lucrative investment.

Sure Gordon also brings out our individual potential. And it's incredibly good that he does that as well apart from everything else we have on our agenda. But if you think that all he does is shout "keep pushing", "reach for that rainbow", "you're gonna make it" from the back while we, divinely inspired by the special tone of his voice, figure out our leaks and every poker secret there is on our own, you are very very wrong.

At the end of the day, it just comes down to a very simple truth: there is no such a guy that cannot beat NL25 yet is somehow capable of turning so many breakeven/losing/slightly winning guys into real professionals that dominate limits that are considerably higher than NL25. I mean, you must be trolling?

his ptr is bestpokercoach i think its ipoker he played on. You can check it out on ptr some of his matches he had. Not much but gives you an idea how he plays.

Isn't that the whole point of having a coach? Who cares if they can beat any game if they can bring out your potential... We are paying them to help US win... and I highly doubt that Gordon would be unprofitable since his advice has worked for me

This is a poor place for this discussion because basically everyone is going to defend gordon blindly so i will drop it, i've made my points.

I purchased two of his courses No BS 6max and Double Your 6Max Winrate ... The advice in the books has been very helpful to me, I am not just defending him blindly

The book is absolutely horrendous i've personally read it and my game didn't recover for weeks

You should automatically get access via the email. If you were logged-in while purchasing, you can access the course in your account.

If you were not logged-in, we will have asked for an email before you bought. Access data should have been sent to that email.

If neither is the case (and u checked ur spam filter), pls be so kind and contact support AT bestpokercoaching.com + your email and we'll help you!

I don't think you can make statements like these and later claim that you were just providing constructive feedback. No offense, but if you're going to call his book terrible and not provide a single reason why, it's not hard to see why everyone is defending Gordon.

I mean, I personally have some doubts about Gordon's programs/products myself (some of them are similar to yours), but I'm not going to speak ill of them and make statements like "he can't beat 25nl on stars", because frankly, my opinion is worthless. I don't know him, I've never been coached by him, I've never joined his program, I've never seen his products.

Sorry, but you're clearly in the wrong here. For what it's worth, I was accepted to CFP some point during the past, but didn't join. During that time I talked to other people who knew Gordon, and they say he is a really great/honest guy.

Alright then its terrible because it's a rigid outlined strategy with no explanations for anything, just copy this do what i say. It's not how you learn poker which is a very complicated game and there is no such thing as a blueprint in poker. Have you never wondered why no other video in the world outlines a strategy to follow, that they try to teach you how to understand and play poker instead. I have said many times gordon is a great salesman, and there is no better way to get money off noobs and people who are struggling at the microstakes than create a book like that.

I am different to you because i have purchased the book and his heads up mastermind course, so im not blindly hating gordon. I have seen his play first hand, his reasonings, the way he talks of things. Ive seen he hasn't played poker in years. I see how much harder the game has got even in the last year and all the threads people start asking if poker is still beatable (it is but its hard work, you have to work hard to improve and stay relevant). With all that i would bet money that on stars (the toughest field) without rakeback as a crutch, that gordon would not be any where near a crusher at 25nl 6 max.

Gordon pm'd me and offered me a refund for the book and requsted me to stop posting, wether this was because he truly cared i wasn't happy or because he does'nt want anyone talking against him who knows. I appreciate the offer but i can't accept. Just the way you come accross gordon aggravates me, you used your favourite line "i feel sorry for you" your so condescending it's not even funny.

You claim you run things 100% transparrent but i dont believe you do, you attack other coaches repeatadly just referring to them as they and saying how they lie and have no results etc. You don't even play poker and haven't seriously for years and everytime someone says to put in a sample at stars you ignore it. I just opened a coaching thread i at random, the guy has had many students, he has posted his results and screen names, he plays in current games, he doesn't bad mouth other coaches he knows nothing about etc etc.

As i said before i will happily not post here anymore because 95% of people blindly follow gordon regardless, just stop quoting me and i will stop posting.

To be fair, while I've never used any of the products myself, people I trust have also claimed that some of them are simply outdated, and don't really have a place in today's games, unless you go to those softer sites. Not trying to discredit you or anything of course, a lot of people have posted here saying they loved your products, and more continue to do so, so don't take my word for it.

I have a simple question that I would like a straight answer to: Is your program/products capable of teaching to beat zoom games? That's Pokerstars zoom 200nl+, and nothing else. And can you beat them yourself?

I think it's a fair question. And yes, I know that at the end of the day it's all about how much money you make and you're capable of teaching your students how to make a lot (or making a lot yourself), or that it depends on the student, etc, but I just want a straight, simple, and honest answer to the question asked.

I can claim that nobs6max book worked for me @ nl2 without hud and ever thinking any move by myself just 100% by the book (EV7bb/100) @ nl5 EV 2bb/100) and everytime I got roll for nl10 I didnt follow the book and got tilted and busted myself @nl25 or higher. but I guess nl10 is atleast 1-2bb/100 beatable on stars zoom without ever thinking on yourself and just following 100% nobs6max book so it's already a good investment... obv dno about beating nl25zoom on stars with that book tho. but when I get myself new computer what can run HEM I make new challenge from 25$ following 100% only book and only make other play when I have good reads. So hopefully in few month I can give new feedback about nl10/16/25zoom on stars and I get 200k hands sample for each stake too (if I'm BE or losing, if I win like 30bi or sumn wit 50k hands then obv i move up but I won't quit using that book before i have atleast 200k hand sample and I found out it rly doesn't work)