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07-10-2017 , 02:43 PM

#1426

AlwaysFolding

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Wait is Patrik Antonious no longer relevant?

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07-10-2017 , 03:09 PM

#1427

ChazDazzle

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ESPN broadcasting today?

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07-10-2017 , 03:11 PM

#1428

parisron

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07-10-2017 , 03:17 PM

#1429

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla

Baumann is NOT reshoving with A7, period.

Vanessa should have realized that if a grinder like Baumann reshoved on the river and wasn't worried about Aces full, that's a big concern. She pretty much talked herself into a call believing that GB had A7. Against an unknown or a more aggressive pro a call is warranted. Against someone like Baumann, although it's tough a fold is the right play that early in the tournament.

baumann is a "grinder"? she's always seemed like a huge nit from what i've seen.

shoving A7 would indeed be terrible, but most donkament players are terrible, soooo

whole discussion is kinda lol for that reason

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07-10-2017 , 03:21 PM

#1430

AlwaysFolding

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Wait, now you're confusing me.

Baumann = nit

Nit =/= grinder

donkament players = terrible, so =/= nit but also =/= grinders?

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07-10-2017 , 03:23 PM

#1431

Utah_CUtiger

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

I swear to god if I see the term "donkament" on here 1 more time...

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07-10-2017 , 03:24 PM

#1432

AlwaysFolding

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lol donkaments

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07-10-2017 , 03:28 PM

#1433

SenpaiSwift

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tbh there is no better word

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07-10-2017 , 03:33 PM

#1434

prahsk87

grinder

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At the table Baumann said she'd shove with A7, but after reflecting on it she would've just called.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKGZyYknJr0&t=0m50s

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07-10-2017 , 03:35 PM

#1435

+rep_lol

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Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

Wait, now you're confusing me.

Baumann = nit

Nit =/= grinder

donkament players = terrible, so =/= nit but also =/= grinders?

theres nothing confusing about it. not all grinders are nits, not all nits are grinders. not all tournament players are terrible, but most of them are wrt fundamentals and postflop play/handreading. you can be a nit and be terrible. you can be a tournament grinder and also be terrible (because loldonkaments)

none of this stuff is like, mutually exclusive

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07-10-2017 , 03:39 PM

#1436

aapokermasteraa

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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger

I swear to god if I see the term "donkament" on here 1 more time...

lol documents

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07-10-2017 , 03:43 PM

#1437

prahsk87

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

shoving A7 would indeed be terrible, but most donkament players are terrible, soooo

whole discussion is kinda lol for that reason

So your river shoving range is just quads? Are you ever balancing with a bluff or is there no point to during day 1 in the main event?

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07-10-2017 , 03:47 PM

#1438

PeteBlow

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In before NVG explodes because they cut away from the Rounders 2 conversation on the feature table

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07-10-2017 , 03:55 PM

#1439

PeteBlow

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Originally Posted by prahsk87

So your river shoving range is just quads? Are you ever balancing with a bluff or is there no point to during day 1 in the main event?

On level 1 of the main event, when you are a very good player like GB and you're facing a such a bet from Vanessa, I don't think you're ever ever bluffing. Why risk against Vanessa when you should be able to mop up chips from the rest of the table.

lol @ balancing. No point in balancing if you're bluffing and get called because you're crippled. If you're bluffing and get a fold, you're not showing your hand anyway. (ignoring that they're on stream)

You can only balance when they get to see your hand. Amazing how many people forget that vital thing.

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07-10-2017 , 04:08 PM

#1440

LOLCh1pPorn

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All these regs mucking their hands when it doesn't go to showdown are so unbalanced

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07-10-2017 , 04:08 PM

#1441

ProffesionalMalaka

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Balancing what? This is once in a lifetime occurrence in a spot where your opponent knows what you have and still calls.

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07-10-2017 , 04:17 PM

#1442

AlwaysFolding

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

lolaments

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07-10-2017 , 04:26 PM

#1443

PeteBlow

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#whaleontherail

Last edited by PeteBlow; 07-10-2017 at 04:26 PM. Reason: One for the PokerGo viewers

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07-10-2017 , 04:34 PM

#1444

GazzyB123

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Did Ivey enter?

Spoiler:

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07-10-2017 , 04:40 PM

#1445

JeffroSTL

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This AJ/AJ hand is bonkers.

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07-10-2017 , 04:45 PM

#1446

PeteBlow

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Originally Posted by GazzyB123

Did Ivey enter?

Spoiler:

Not yet, but he's got until the end of dinner break to hop in.
I'm still expecting him to arrive at the last minute and go crazy for a couple of levels.

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07-10-2017 , 04:49 PM

#1447

Utah_CUtiger

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Yes if Ivey will enter it'll be at the last possible second in a blaze of glory.

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07-10-2017 , 04:50 PM

#1448

AlwaysFolding

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger

Yes if Ivey will enter it'll be at the last possible second in a blaze of glory.

so basically loldonkaments?

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07-10-2017 , 05:20 PM

#1449

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prahsk87

So your river shoving range is just quads? Are you ever balancing with a bluff or is there no point to during day 1 in the main event?

Basically. Could shove worse for value vs an idiot but not vs a smart player like vanessa. Running a bluffline here 300bb deep on day 1 is just pure spew, totally unnecessary